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Title: Final Photo's of Colin Stoner at his last ever gig (with The Doctors of Madness)
Post by: Tj on March 23, 2002, 10:07:18 PM
TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness

Hi Ulrich,

Some facts on TV Smith and the cast of the Doctors Of Madness following on from Ulrich's question under The Damned and The Adverts section.

TV Smith and Gaye Adverts were big fans of The Doctors Of Madness in 1976.

Dave Vanian was in The Damned and briefly in the Doctors Of Madness.

Richard Strange  :P (vocals) was in the Doctors Of Madness and very briefly in The Adverts.

Stoner :P (bass) was in the Doctors Of Madness and played throughout the journey of TV Smith's Explorers  :P

Richard Strange  :P and TV Smith  :P wrote, played and sang several songs together and some of the demo's have been available as bootlegs.  :o I titled the Demo's Raw Meat For The Missionaries after one of the lines in the fantastic track Some Kind Of War. :P

Richard Strange and TV Smith played together at the Doctors Of Madness last gig - now available as a Japanese CD ("You be Japan") on Captain Trip records under the title Into The Strange.  8O

TV Smith and Stoner were re-united a few years ago for a one off gig. I missed it. :cry:

TV Smith and Richard Strange were re-united at Southwick last year. I caught it. :P  :D but, I forgit my camera :cry:  

TV Smith and Richard Strange are performing seperately  :cry: at the moment :roll: at Southwick on June 1st 2002.  :D

My favourite ever artist is TV Smith  :P and my favourite ever band is the Doctors Of Madness. :P
 
My favourite two albums ever are Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms :P and March Of The Giants :P

So which Doctors Of Madness CD should you buy you ask :?:

To be continued :arrow:

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"Dressed up like Adam and Eve - Raw Meat For The Missionaries" Some Kind Of War
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Title: I Kid You Not
Post by: Tj on March 23, 2002, 10:19:13 PM
Hi Tj and Ulrich,

The best Doctors Of Madness album was indeed Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms.

However, as Ulrich is clearly a punk fan I would start off with the harder edged Sons Of Survival.

The three albums (which includes Figmets Of Emancipation, featuring Marie and Joe; one of the greatest songs ever recorded) are soon to be all available from Ozit records on www.tractor-ozit.com .   
Title: TV Smith and the Doctors
Post by: Tj on March 24, 2002, 12:13:03 PM
Hi Kid Sundown :lol:  

Excellent choices on the Doctors recommendations Kid - you sure know your Strange stuff. :D

As for your comment about TV Smith not being a patch on the Doctors Of  :x ness - on your bike mate.  :x  :x  :x  :x It's a close race , but TV wins by a short head. :D

Do you think the worlds greatest artists will ever play toether live again :?:  or am I "Just Exploring Madness."
 
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"And there on the wall in words eight feet tall they're advising you all to join parties and watch TV" / "TV stays on while I'm out so I'm always at home" Triple Vision by the Doctors of Madness (Strange on TV  :? )
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Title: [b]Raw Meat For The Missionaries[/b]
Post by: Tj on March 24, 2002, 12:20:51 PM
Raw Meat For The Missionaries

This is what I titled the Strange /Smith Demo's.

A question to those that have a copy  :arrow: what are your favourite tracks :?:

Wouldn't it have made an amazing :P finished album :?: (once polished up.)


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"Get a gun and strap it on - distinguish right from wrong" Some Kind Of War Strange TV



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Title: Strange TV ?
Post by: PK on March 24, 2002, 08:02:39 PM
Hi TJ,

You mentioned elsewhere you sent an e-mail to Richard Strange
Did you ask him if TV & him will play together at Southwick and did he reply yet  :?:
Having pressure put on me to only go down for the one day "heaven forbid"  [:!: Would really like to see Richard play but am a complete stranger (no pun intended) to his music.
Eh....
I really wish I had'nt admitted to that as I know you think he's only second to TV as your favourite artist. Its a bit like waving a red flag at a bull[/color]  8O

oh thought I'd play about a bit with the colour to . Dear God  :!:  :!:

PK :twisted:
Title: madness all round
Post by: jock on March 24, 2002, 08:03:41 PM
can anyone do C d copys of doctors of madness for me please  :?:
im willing to pay for them ( obviously ) :D
Ive never heard them , and being open to all music  :wink:  esspecially
anything T V has been involved with , then id like to here it .
can anyone  help please  :(
Title: Doctors Of Madness CD's
Post by: Tj on March 24, 2002, 11:14:41 PM
Hi Jock,

There is only one CD out at the moment (Movies) and it's still on sale. The details are listed on my previous email.

 
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The best Doctors Of Madness album was indeed Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms.

However, as Ulrich is clearly a punk fan I would start off with the harder edged Sons Of Survival.

The three albums (which includes Figmets Of Emancipation, featuring Marie and Joe; one of the greatest songs ever recorded) are soon to be all available from Ozit records on www.tractor-ozit.com .


Have you got the Strange/TV demo's? - now that is something worth copying.


Kid Sundown
Title: No Reply From Strange Or Attilla Yet!!!
Post by: Tj on March 24, 2002, 11:23:27 PM
Hi PK,

No I haven't heard from Richard yet. I've emailed Attila as well. In fact you are the only person who has told me that Richard is playing :roll:

There is a site at http://stage.vitaminic.co.uk/happiness/ where you can download Richard's latest offerings. :D


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"The time is now" Richard Strange's Happiness  
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Title: I'm Not Strange I'm MAD !!
Post by: PK on March 25, 2002, 01:25:25 PM
Hi TJ,

Thanks for the Link  :lol:

Let the "DOWNLOADING" commence  :!:  :!:

Also in the course of sifting through images to send to Klaus for the site came across a poster for the Marque / Reading Rock 77 with Ultravox headlining and Doctors of Madness as support.  :P Bet that brings back memories  8)

Cant put the image on here unfortunately but can e-mail it direct to you if you want to see it. Just lets us know

PK  :twisted:
Title: Poster
Post by: Klaus on March 25, 2002, 01:42:49 PM
Hi PK,

send it to me and I will put it somewhere on the site and make it accessable from the forum.

Klaus
Title: Doctors CD's
Post by: Ulrich on March 25, 2002, 04:38:35 PM
Hi TJ,

thanks for the info on the Doctors/TV pathcrossings!
I will try to get the Late Night Movies... CD, actually that was the one I'd ordered about three years ago which never arrived!
I will try it at Ozit soon (need Channel 5 anyway). Is it possible to send them cash (as I don't have a credit card)?
Do you sell any copies of these "Raw Meat" demos?

Who is Kid Sundown (he seems to log in as TJ)???

Yes, I'm a punk fan but I like many kinds of music.  :)
Title: Poster Reading Rock 77
Post by: Klaus on March 25, 2002, 09:00:28 PM
Thanks PK for the scan.
Here the link to view it:

www.tvsmith.com/archives/77advert.gif

Klaus
Title: Scan Away
Post by: PK on March 25, 2002, 11:22:19 PM
Hi Klaus,

Thanks for putting the image on the site. :lol:  
Though it's not to do with TV I thought TJ would appreciate the Doctors Of Madness memory jog  :roll:
Just got any e-mail from him as I know you did about Richard Strange & TV at Southwick. :wink:
Looks like we have to encourage Richard Strange to hang about to play with TV as he's on first. If TJ could just pop Mr Strange's e-mail on the forum would be happy to have a go "persuading" him.

Oh and after a suggestion by MR TJ "Unlikely" i decided to change my log in name to mirror my e-mail address.
If I'm as MAD as TJ suggests I am the name fits. :roll:

Welcome to HOBGOBLIN :twisted:
Title: Kid Sundown?
Post by: Tj on March 26, 2002, 01:29:49 PM
Who is Kid Sundown Ulrich :?:

He is a Doctors of Madness fan - check out there site for his strange and wierd view  8O of the world.  :?  

It would appear he has snuck onto my PC whilst I'm out working :evil:  

Don't worry I'll sort out the bastard :x (even if he does have pretty good taste in music.)

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"There's a wierd scenes addict about" Billy Watch Out by the Doctors Of Madness  



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Title: Ulrich's Raw Meat For Ozit
Post by: Tj on March 26, 2002, 01:33:37 PM
Hi Ulrich,

Send me an email and I'll back to you about some of your questions. :wink:

As for Ozit send them an email and see how you can pay. :?



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Title: Doctor TV
Post by: Tj on March 26, 2002, 07:48:59 PM
Check out www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk for the latest news on TV's erasure from the last ever Doctors Of Madness live gig CD.
 :evil:  :(  :cry:
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Title: Strange Message For Tj
Post by: Tj on March 29, 2002, 03:51:20 PM
Hi Strange TVers,

Just received this missive from the Kid. :D  

Looks like the TV and Strange get together is a possibility. :P Fingers definately crossed. :arrow:  

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Dear TJ,

sorry not to have got back to you sooner- been away a bit and otherwise preoccupied with the book. Now official release date May 9th.

Looking forward to Southwick. I would love to play with TV but not sure if it will happen.  Hope so though.

I shall also be doing a gig at Hoxton Hall, London on 23rd June.at 8pm.

I am very impressed and flattered by the amount of Strange work you and Klaus have put in on the TV Smith website. Please keep up the good work.
 
Have you heard the Live Doctors album yet?

Best wishes Richard






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Title: Top Of The Tree
Post by: Tj on April 05, 2002, 09:25:47 PM
Thought I'd put this posting back at the top of the page where it belongs. 8O


RESPECT Gents  :P


Roll on Summer Fun :D
Title: Richard Strange & TV Smith
Post by: Kid Sundown on April 09, 2002, 05:57:18 PM
Hello I'm Kid Sundown,

And I'm feeling rather moved about all this attention towards Richard Strange. Richard is the planets greatest songwriter and it's pleasing that other internet users have begun to recognise this fact.

One slight problem though. Shouldn't Richard Strange come before TV Smith in the topic title?

KID SUNDOWN
Title: No
Post by: Uli on April 09, 2002, 06:02:03 PM
Hi Kid,

to make it short: no, he shouldn't! Remember this is a TV Smith forum after all...
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on April 09, 2002, 06:58:06 PM
Sorry,
Even if Richard Strange would come before TV Smith in the topic title he
wouldn't be the world's greatest songwriter.
This is without doubt TV Smith, doesn't matter where he is placed anywhere.

Klaus
Title: Oh Dear I Fear I May Have Started A Strange TV Battle
Post by: Kid Sundown on April 12, 2002, 06:08:33 PM
Hello Uli and Klaus,

I assure you I have nothing but admiration for TV Smith. After all he made some rather special demo's with Richard Strange in 1978 and appeared at the last ever Doctors Of Madness concert in the same year.

All I was saying was that TV is very talented, but not quite as talented as Richard.

So sorry if I affended anyone.

I hope to see you at Southwick, where I can hopefully make amends to you both.

KID SUNDOWN
Title: Strange Is Spledid, but, TV Is Bloody Splendid
Post by: Tj on April 13, 2002, 11:47:39 AM
Hi Kid,

How many times have we argued the toss about who's best mate :?:

Check out TV's number of songs against Richard's and then check out the level of consistency throughout all the amazing songs :|

As truely gifted as Richard Strange clearly is :) TV smith had the edge on both quantity and quality :D

2 - 0 mate you loose again :wink:


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Title: Rock & ROLL
Post by: Tj on April 13, 2002, 11:49:56 AM
:roll:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on April 13, 2002, 12:56:37 PM
Hi Kid and TJ,

wondering if you both and my friend (Mad) Markus could become friends :?:  :wink:  :mrgreen:

 Klaus
Title: Mad Tj
Post by: Tj on April 13, 2002, 01:37:35 PM
Gee thanks mate :cry:

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Title: The Strange Smith Madness Continues On DOM Site
Post by: Tj on April 13, 2002, 07:40:15 PM
Hi TVers,

Here we go again :roll:

Check out Mickey on the Discussion Board of www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk for the latest comments about TV Smith and how he affected the Doctors Of Madness :x  :x  :x

Whay can't we all just get along :?



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Title: The TV Strange DOM Posting Copied Over
Post by: Tj on April 13, 2002, 07:51:02 PM
Hi TVers,

Here is the article in question with my Mr Angry :x reply

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Okay Mickey,

I've got to respond to this.

Yes the CD is priceless to true cobalt blue Doctors Of Madness
fans like you and me.

Yes the sound quality is not that great. Yes it misses the violin
blitz - big style.

However, you missed metioning the superb acoustic (probably newly
recorded) version of Mainlines.

Even more importantly you state "all the TV Smith's and Dave
Vanian's of this world just could not stand a hope in hell of re-
kindling the lost atmosphere of earlier gigs." Maybe TV is not a
violinist, but to point the finger at him in such a manner is way
out of order. I spoke to someone who was at the last Doctors gig
and they said it didn't come alive until TV got on stage.

If you like blaming people then point your finger at the Pistols
for alledgedly wiping out the Doctors with Punk or Urban Blitz
for not fitting in and leaving.

Aah that feels better now!

Tj

PS: Are you going to Southwick or London to see Richard?

Been listening to "Into the strange" and here are my thoughts
(for what they are worth).
This CD demonstrates how the DOM concept had turned to ratshit
once "Blitzy" got the hump and left... and all the TV Smith's and
Dave Vanian's of this world just could not stand a hope in hell
of re-kindling the lost atmosphere of earlier gigs ...they just
added to the demise....it was rock n roll circus after
all...never punk...thank God.
When are we going to get a "real" DOM live CD from say: London's
Olympia new year bash, or Sheffield freshers ball, or even
better, the Manchester Electric Circus gig (complete with holes
in your socks Richard)??....if indeed any tapes etc exist...so
far  for me "the search has been fruitless..."
The "original" DOM sound has haunted my life since Olympia (I was
the one who didn't throw the badge back)...
So there it is...new CD.
Sound quality: mostly shite, but hey it's a bootleg thing.
Content: almost the doctors of madness plus some iffy guitar work
....sounds like a roadie stepped in at the last minute to help out.
Value for money: priceless (to me anyway)...  Rant over.
Duration: even after all of the above...it's way too short.


Hey Mickey your fine, but, you blow my mind :roll:
Title: TV Gets An Apology!
Post by: Tj on April 15, 2002, 08:19:17 AM
Hi TVers,

Here is a kind apology from Mickey :)

I don't think it was TV on guitar - but, I'm not sure :?

Was it you Teev :?:


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Sorry TJ...no intention to offend anybody, just trying to provoke
heartfelt comment on my favourite band (4-piece that is) by
removing the "cobalt blue glasses" on the "collective" content of
the live CD.....

You are dead right, "Urban blitz" ...(or whatever his real name
is) may be the root cause of the downward spiral of events, I
don't think that replacing him with any other
violinist/guitarist/block-of-wood/whatever... would have saved
them, as "punk" buried the sublime in favour of the (in the main)
talentless and over-hyped....(insert your least favourite punk
band here)....(XTC,X-ray spex,the stranglers...etc etc...oops!)

There does seem to be 2 guitars on most of the CD...and it sounds
obvious (to me anyway) which one belongs to Kid Strange...so
who's playing the other.....if it's TV Smith then it's definately
not some of his best work ??? (Apologies to you TJ ...you know TV
Smith much better that I do.)I was forced to miss the Manchester
leg of that final tour and shall remain forever "gutted".

Richard did some new recordings of DOM songs on the "late night
movies" re-issue cd. It sounds like the mainlines thing was done
at the same time ? maybe there are more in store for the next 2
re-releases?...they lack something though??, very laid back ..not
sure yet about Richard Strange "unplugged" ....I prefer Richard
Strange "unhinged"  

You have probably guessed by now that I am a DOM fan... not a
Richard Strange fan.....there is a big big difference....but it
sounds insane doesn't it?

p.s. hasn't "Cool" just got to be the best song ever?

Mikey (cobalt/lazer blue)




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Title: Feedback From Hugh On Strange TV
Post by: Tj on April 15, 2002, 08:26:16 AM
Hi TVers,

Here is another Doctors post- :)

This one is from Hugh - who runs this excellent site :D

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I wouldn't consider ''punk" to have been a bad thing per se,  if
you watch an edition of supersonic or Shang a lang
(repeated fairly regularly on UK play), it 's pretty obvious how
necessary that 'stalinist' purge of music was. After glam
rock's glory days, there was some very poor stuff out there
that needed putting out of its misery. However, punk's own
conventions or whatever became written in stone pretty
quickly, I think the Doctors were in an unfortunate position in
already being part-way an established name when the
revolution came. Such things happen in pop music, with the
result that same genuinely worthwhile artists are written off
rather unfairly. Although the Stranglers (whose earlier stuff
I'm still quite fond of) profited from punk, in many circles they
were still considered naff old men or whatever, possibly if
they'd had some industry backup earlier in their career, they'd
have suffered the same fate as the Doctors.

To me,  one of the great things about punk was it could put
someone like Poly Styrene on top of the pops.

I'm with you on XTC tho. they were very annoying.




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Title: Mickey Surrenders And Holds Out The White Flag To TV
Post by: Tj on April 20, 2002, 01:08:49 AM
Latest reply from Mickey,

See I said he was so fine :roll:

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Ok...

Let's settle on: "In my humble opinion, everybody involved in the
creating of this cd, tries (with varying degrees of success), to
achieve something close to, a DOM concert."

Mikey.



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Title: Wise Words From Jeremy
Post by: Tj on April 20, 2002, 01:12:02 AM
Hi TVers and DOCers,

Here is a guy who knows what he is talking about :D

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yes the show really did come alive when TV Smith came on but I
think he only sang/played on the jointly written numbers: Making
Machines, Who cries for me and .....

The rest of the gig was just a 3 piece. I actually don't think
it went on for as long as RS intended though. I know they didn't
play Doctors of madness cos' RS nearly broke down when they were
about to start it/or when people shouted for it. It just seemed
to peter out.

I saw the Doctors one other time as a 3-piece (+ Dave Vanian).
they were much tighter than at the final gig and yes RS was the
only guitarist.

However, they were so much better as a chaotic 4-piece.

BTW has anyone noticed that Urban Blitz/s photo is on the sleeve
of Into the Strange

Jeremy




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Title: Last Human Being (In The World)
Post by: Tj on April 20, 2002, 09:08:19 PM
Hi TVers and DOCErs,

My reply to Jeremy - just posted on www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk :D

Any chance of adding that link and www.richardstrange.com LINKS to the ARCHIVES Klaus (pretty please). Hugh has added TV Smith to the Doctors links :)

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Hi Jeremy,

The song your thinking of is the superb Last Human Being for the
amazing Strange TV Demo's 'Raw Meat For the Missionaries'.

Yeah I wondered why Urban blitz was on the cover.

The pic looks like it was from the Sons Of Survivor photo shoots,
which is coincidently the CD that features the Strange TV live
version of Last Human Being.

Tj





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Title: Links
Post by: Klaus on April 21, 2002, 12:32:31 AM
Hi TJ,

sure, wanted to do it earlier, but somehow I missed it.
Tomorrow, promise :!:

Klaus

PS: Just one more post, TJ :)
Title: Docter Strange Links
Post by: Tj on April 21, 2002, 01:00:05 AM
Thanks Klaus my friend :D

As you might now know I sort of new about my 200th :wink:

You missed it by seconds.

Are you ready to pick up the batton, but don't worry too much I'll be following you all the way.



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Title: Strange At Southwick - Listen To Some Happiness First
Post by: Tj on April 25, 2002, 07:16:08 AM
Hi TUTS and G-TUTS,

For those turning up earlier to watch the incredible Richard Strange you can check out his latest work by linking in to www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk Then go into LINKS and scroll down to 'Happiness, Richard's latest on Vitaminic' and click into Richard Strange's new Happiness recordings entitled All Banged Up! :D

The Time Is Now was my favourite track of 2001 :D

All together now "Happines, Happiness the greatest gift that I possess" :roll:




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Title: Strange Going On In Southwick?
Post by: Kid Sundown on April 25, 2002, 05:42:33 PM
Hello,

Has anyone yet found out the time that the worlds greatest songwriters are appearing on stage at Southwick. I know the approximate time for TV Smith, but there appears to be some variation as to the appearance of THE GREAT STRANGE.

Thank you in anticipation.

KID SUNDOWN
Title: Attila On The Strange Wild Times
Post by: Tj on May 03, 2002, 10:46:03 AM
Hi Kid mi old mate,

I've started a campaign to get TV (and Richard of course) longer sets :D

I'll also ask Attila the exact time of Richards's set :)

Me, Smit and H will be their - is anyone else going :?:

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Title: Strange Set
Post by: PK on May 03, 2002, 04:33:12 PM
Hi TJ,

Would like to see Richard perform but only have Saturday evening tickets and am constrained by what time my "passengers" are ready to head down.  :cry:
No doubt you will tell us all about it and with a bit of luck you can persuade Richard to stay on for TV's set. :lol:
Does Mr Strange like beer  :?: Maybe you can introduce him to some of your strange northern concoctions  :roll: that should keep him busy for a few hours  :twisted:

Either way sounds like fun  :P

HOBGOBLIN  :twisted:
Title: Strange On Stage
Post by: Tj on May 04, 2002, 11:06:21 AM
Thanks PK - that's a shame I was hoping at least Klaus would get to see Richard Strange live :cry:

Hi Kid - I've emailed Attila for the on stage time for Richard. His wife replied and Attila is away at the moment. When he returns she will get him to look into it :)


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Thanks Attila,
 
There are a couple of dozen TV Smith and Richard Strange fans coming to Glastonwick. These are mainly the TUTS (TV UK Tour Supporters) from all over the UK and Germany. Is there any chance of extending TV and Richard's sets. We would all most appreciate it.
 
Also there is some confusion between the Glastonwick site and www.richardstrange.com When exactly is Richard Strange on stage.
 
All this and loads of quality ales - can't wait. See you their Attila.
 
Tj





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Title: tV & Richard Strange
Post by: PK on May 04, 2002, 08:18:12 PM
Hi TJ,

Maybe I should amend my last post  :?

Said I was constrained by my passengers requests but at the moment I dont know what Klaus and especial TV are planning. If TV wants to get down early to make a day of it and see Richard and Klaus is of similar mind then as far as I'm concerned we leave earlier,tough on the other passengers I'm afraid they'll just put up with going earlier.
Major concern would be tickets for the afternoon session. I only have evening session tickets assume everyone else coming with us has the same. :cry:
Maybe we can name drop or say we are TV's roadies to get in to the afternoon session  :twisted:

Maybe you'd like to comment on this Klaus  :!:

HOBGOBLIN  :twisted:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on May 05, 2002, 09:46:29 AM
Hi PK & TJ,

Last word I heard from Attila is that he put me on the guest list for both sessions. But since that I couldn't reach him anymore as my mails were returned to me. Wanted to ask him if he could reserve tickets for Simse and Jürgen.
(Looks like I am not the only one struggling with server problems then :| )

I would really like to see the afternoon session.
I got an offer from TJ to pick me up earlier in order to see Mr. Strange.
Think it would be a good idea to do this. I would see Mr. Strange, PK would have one person less to worry about ( at least for that trip :wink: ).

Klaus
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: PK on May 05, 2002, 06:02:34 PM
Hi Klaus,

Not a problem to take you down early to Southwick.

Would probably be best to sort this out on the 30th at the Verge gig.
Then I would know for definate what time TV wants to go down for and structure everything around that. :wink:

This should'nt be overly complicated It's just to early yet to sort out properly. First UK gig's not to long away so wont have long to wait now.  :twisted:

HOBGOBLIN
  :twisted:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on May 05, 2002, 06:50:51 PM
Hi PK,

you're right. Let's sort out the details on the 30th. 8)

Klaus
Title: Taxi
Post by: Tj on May 06, 2002, 04:50:54 PM
Hi Klaus and PK,

Good :idea: PK to sort travel out nearer the date at least we know that Klaus won't be without a lift :D

Dick Strange 8O is on at 3:00 pm and not 2:00 pm so that should help and yippee they are now on for 1 hour 5 minutes which is much better than the 40 minutes TV predicted :D

Bet you didn't know that my nickname at school was Taxi 8O



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Title: Doctors Of Madness On Late Tonight!
Post by: Tj on May 12, 2002, 05:17:28 PM
DON'T DARE MISS IT!




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Title: Strange Post Doctors Of Madness - Tj Hit 300
Post by: Tj on May 18, 2002, 02:24:38 PM
Da da - told you I'd get the silver and let the second main man take Gold, as we cross the 300 post line :P

I'm having some quite good arguments with Mikey on www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk why not join in.

This is the latest:
   
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Hi Mikey,

Are you going to the London gig Mikey? - is so we can have a chinwag/argument/beer their.

I'm a fellow Northerner (right side of the Pennines though.)

I agree that Richard has not since topped I Won't Run Away on Live Rise, but The Time Is Now by Happiness comes pretty close.
Have you heard the Attila The Stockbroker versionon Run?

Don't know about taping the gig. I'm going with Klaus who runs the TV Smith site - I'll see what he can do.

Hey don't worry about us two disagreeing on this discussion board. That's one of the best ways to get some interest going. Just check out the hits and posts on www.tvsmith.com COMMUNICATION if you doubt me. There are loads of posts about Strange on their as well.

So just to be argumentative - Cool is not one of my favourite Doctors songs.

Tj (cheaky Northern Twat)

Can't make the Southwick gig unfortunately....I would have enjoyed
a chinwag/argument/beer TJ.

Maybe another time...perhaps Richard may even come to Manchester??

Tosser was a bit harsh on reflection.....a northern term of
endearment.....a knee-jerk reaction from me on watching a "geeky"
interview whilst my friends fell about my lounge with scathing
comments (not DOM fans.....cheeky twats)

"the live rise" is still his solo high point for me, and I have no
objection to anybody reminding me of his talents...it's maybe a
good thing to provoke people to come out of the shadows and post
their thoughts ?? .....maybe with fewer insults from me next time
though.

Try to catch "Darren Poyser" he is on stage before or shortly
after Richard and is a Mancunian singer/songwriter of growing
popularity here up north.....and he may have his violinist with
him.

Cheers...."the somewhat cheeky twat that is..." Mikey.      

p.s. is somebody going to "capture" this gig on a minidisc thingy
or equally sneaky ways ??


Any chance Klaus :?:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on May 18, 2002, 06:33:06 PM
If me manage to get access to the Soundboard, no problem.
I am not very good at doing microphone recordings.
But recordings of solo artists directly from the board normally sound very well.
Maybe you could ask Mr. Strange about this? He must allow this, of course.

Klaus
Title: Strange Soundboard
Post by: Tj on May 19, 2002, 07:46:35 PM
Hi Klaus,

I'll ask Richard.

Cheers mate :D


 8)
Title: Doctors Site Is on A Run
Post by: Tj on May 19, 2002, 07:48:21 PM
Hi TVers,

Here is the latest from the DOCers:

Quote
I saw the Doctors of Madness at Liverpool Stadium in 1975-
:
They were supporting Be-Bop Deluxe.  As we were all herded in a
:
line outside - Mr.Strange and co. were talking to our group of
:
hapless 15 year olds - "What have you come to see these fucking
:
teenyboppers for?!" he proclaimed loudly- We were just stunned
:
at his blue hair- this was very odd in 1975!
:
I remember he had eyes painted on his eyelids in 'glow in the
:
dark' make-up - so every time his eyes shut- he looked like he
:
was some sort of strung out android.
:
I've got a silver flexidisk which I purchased at that venue
:
which was housed in a cardboard sleeve and it had a 'band
:
profile' printed inside - I'll have to have a good search for it!
:

:
Also saw them at Quaintways in Chester in 1976 -
:
The one week that I didn't go to the above venue that year was
:
when The Sex Pistols played before it all blew up - Damn

I too first encountered the 'Doctors' when they were supporting
Be Bop De Luxe (well what else was there to be interested in in
the pre-punk era?) at Hull City Hall. The friends accompanying
me just couldn't take it in... this giant of a front man with
blue hair! He made a particular impression on me with the way he
provoked the audience..by referring to them
as 'wankers'..causing a surge of hostility towards the
stage..but Richard was only being accurate in his description as
they had yet to be enlightened by the phenomenon which was the
Doctors of Madness. For me this was THE band both in terms of
the image and this great song they played and which continued to
play in my head..called Marie and Joe..leading me to rush out
and buy the album, though this track wasn't on 'brainstorms' but
appeared on their second release, 'Figments of Emancipation.'
Saw them a number of times subsequently at the
Doncaster 'Outlook' club where they built up a fanatical
following of fans. As to the 'were they punk or not?' debate it
is sad that they didn't emerge a little later because they would
have then have been given the acclaim they deserved and
recognition in the numerous mags dedicated to the punk
phenomenon now appearing. For me however they embodied all the
attitude of punk, its nihilism, etc., but unlike many of the
later bands they demonstrated an intelligence and an ability to
actually create music which still stands up to scutiny today.
To Richard and Urban, Stoner and Peter without whom....respect



 8)
Title: Very Much Alive - The Greatest Combined Act Ever
Post by: Tj on June 03, 2002, 08:41:49 PM
So are they the greatest or what :?:

 8)
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Klaus on June 05, 2002, 05:06:36 PM
Hi TJ,

I really enjoyed Mr. Strange's performance. :D
And he was a really nice chap, as well. :D

Klaus
Title: agreement
Post by: Simse on June 06, 2002, 11:41:54 AM
Hi Tj,

Seeing and listening to Richard Strange was really interesting.
At most I was impressed by his wonderful hat (just PK looks nicer with something on his head) and his strange stories about his live ...
I really can not imagine that there should be once a lady who tried to get him into her bed ....   :wink:

Simse
Title: 1900th Post On Those Sons Of Survival - Back From The Dead
Post by: Tj on June 09, 2002, 01:35:24 AM
Hi TUTS,

Check out TUTS  :arrow: Thanks TUTS 1 & 2 :arrow: For TV and Richard Strange's feedback on Southwick :D

I don't know about anyone taking Richard to bed Simse, but I seem to remember Smit giving Richard a kiss 8O  8O  8O

 :lol:  8)  :lol:
Title: Richard Strange
Post by: Simse on June 09, 2002, 01:55:48 PM
Is my english so bad? ( Sure, now I would like to hear : no. no Simse your english is excellent  :roll: ).  I thought that Mr. Strange told us this story about him and one woman when he read something out/ of / fom  :?:  his book?
And I was so proud that  I understood even this part of his gig, because most of the time I could not laugh about his jokes becuase they were maybe a little bit to fast and mumbeling for me....

But I am really surprised about Smit.  8O

Simse
Title: Cheeky
Post by: Tj on June 09, 2002, 03:11:47 PM
Ah! Now I remember the story about Richard's conquest :o Too much Oakham JHB for me :oops:

Don't worry too much about Smit, Simse - he just got a peck on each cheek - like all the luvies (actors) do :wink:

 8)
Title: Everything is okay now
Post by: Simse on June 09, 2002, 03:27:48 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :wink:
Simse
Title: The First Strange And Smith Re-union
Post by: Tj on July 29, 2003, 06:22:36 PM
This is the only photo taken of TV Smith and Richard Strange at their first post Adverts and Doctors Of Madness reunion. They had just finished playing Back From The Dead together. I went to heaven and back. :D  :D  :arrow:

http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics.php?sect=1&set=74&gid=117&back=photos&sort=

This gig was also at Southwick (hence the confusion with the dates) but it was over a year before Glastonwick 7.

The photo was taken by new TUTS member Rocket Ron :D Then damaged by Ron and repaired by The Fleagles and Andy.

This was the day THE GREAT MAN first introduced me to the fellow legend known as THE GREAT STRANGE :D

An awesome night :D  :D  :D    

 :D  8)  :D
Title: In The AfterGlow
Post by: Tj on July 29, 2003, 06:27:46 PM
Here is a picture of Rocket Ron with Fleagle at Bogarts:

http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpic.php?gid=234&set=79&pic=6&back=photos&sort=

 8)
Title: Respect!
Post by: Tj on July 30, 2003, 06:34:25 PM
Speaking of the greatest combined two artists ever.

I've just read this in the great trakMARX TV Smith interview:

Quote
trakMARX - You also mention a "flux" & a side project with Richard Strange - would you care to elaborate on this?

TV - Well, for one thing I didn't know where the limits were as far as song writing went. I was writing stuff that was almost impossible for the band to play. I couldn't play it myself. So I was looking around, really, wondering how far I could push the band and how far I could push myself. At the same time we were having some personality problems in the band, we'd been cooped up together for too long, travelling together, living out of each others' pockets, and the cracks were starting to show. I started working with Richard because I got on with him and respected him as a writer and we found we could write and record demos and actually enjoy doing it without any pressure of expectation from either record company or audience.


See:

http://www.trakmarx.com/

 :D  8)  :D
Title: Several Strange Songs In New TV Smith Songs Chart
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 10:42:03 AM

Hi TUTS here's the latest on TV from our sister site www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk    

Tj Sundown  posted 8/21/03 10:48 AM        

Hi The AfterGlow,

Just before I type up the entire Doctors Of Madness and Strange Stoner Songs Charts, I thought you might be interested to see how the songs Richard co-wrote with TV Smith are doing in TV Smiths latest chart.

All songs are an average score out of 10

Strange songs =  :arrow:  

1 Expensive Being Poor 9.38
2 Only One Flavour 9.29
3 Not A Bad Day 9.17
4 Not In My Name 9.06
5 Immortal Rich 8.82
6 Soon As I Found It I Lost It 8.71
7 Generation Y 8.69
8 Runaway Train Driver 8.67
9 The Future Used To Be Better 8.53
10 Carrying On 8.50
11 Swimming In The Flood 8.40
12 Earthbound 8.33
 :arrow: 13 Some Kind Of War 8.33
14 For Every Hit There's A Miss 8.27
15 Es Stoert Mich Nicht 8.25
16 Your Ticket Out Of Here 8.25
17 Thin Green Line 8.13
18 Tomahawk Cruise 8.13
19 Driver Or Passenger 8.08
20 Gather Your Things And Go 8.07
21 One Chord Wonders 8.06
22 Impulse Buy 8.00
23 March Of The Giants 8.00
24 Top Ten 8.00
25 Great British Mistake 7.94
26 What If? 7.93
27 Useless 7.89
28 Lion And The Lamb 7.88
29 Free World 7.85
30 Sugar Crash 7.83
31 Atlantic Tunnel 7.81
32 Gary Gilmore's Eyes 7.76
33 People Don't Know 7.75
34 The New You 7.75
35 The Sure Thing 7.75
36 Bored Teenagers 7.71
37 Lord's Prayer 7.67
38 No Time To Be 21 7.53
39 Break Up The Party 7.50
40 Eurodisneyland Tomorrow 7.50
41 I Already Have Your Heart 7.50
42 Straight And Narrow 7.50
43 The Day We Caught The Big Fish 7.47
44 My String Will Snap 7.47
45 The World Just Got Smaller Again 7.46
46 Roll Like A River 7.43
47 Lies 7.42
48 All The Right Hands Rise 7.40
49 Living World 7.36
50 One Million Pounds 7.36
51 This Year, Next Year... 7.36
52 New Church 7.33
53 We Want The Road 7.29
54 I Know What You Want 7.27
55 Drowning On Dry Land 7.25
56 Luxury In Exile 7.25
57 One Of Our Missiles Is Missing 7.25
58 Open Up Your Heart 7.25
59 Haves And Have-nots 7.23
60 Shipwrecked On The Rocks Of Love 7.20
61 200 Blows 7.14
62 Ready For The Axe To Drop 7.12
63 Let 'Em Go 7.08
64 Beat Up Your Boyfriends 7.00
 :arrow: 65 Dance Of Death 7.00
66 Downbeat 7.00
67 Finger Of Fashion 7.00
68 Little Knocks 7.00
69 Love Chain Letter 7.00
70 Move On 7.00
71 My Trojan Horse 7.00
72 New Discoverers 7.00
73 Safety In Numbers 7.00
74 The Wedding Dress 7.00
75 Wheels Out Of Gear 7.00
76 High Society 6.93
77 On The Roof 6.93
78 The Servant 6.93
79 Like A Rocket 6.88
80 King Of Hearts 6.75
81 Land Of Plenty 6.75
82 Lucky Us 6.75
83 Make Your Escape 6.75
84 Spy On The Line 6.75
85 Walk The Plank 6.73
86 Bombsite Boy 6.71
87 Cheap 6.71
88 Momentous Changes 6.71
89 The Beautiful Bomb 6.70
90 On Wheels 6.64
91 Buried By The Machine 6.64
92 Earth 2 6.62
93 Can't Pay, Won't Pay 6.60
94 The Newshound 6.60
95 Television's Over 6.53
96 Be Brave 6.50
97 Borderline 6.50
98 Divide And Rule 6.50
 :arrow: 99 Last Human Being 6.50
100 Lean Toward The Light 6.50
101 Poison Mind 6.50
102 Right Time 6.50
103 She's Losing You 6.50
104 Ship In A Bottle 6.50
105 The Impossible Person 6.50
106 The Real Fake 6.50
107 Fire In The Darkness 6.45
108 The Easy Way 6.45
109 Last True Thing 6.43
110 Strong Horse 6.43
111 In There 6.42
112 Head On! Clear! 6.38
113 Cast Of Thousands 6.36
114 A Token Of My Love 6.33
115 I Surrender 6.33
116 New Day Dawning 6.33
 :arrow: 117 Summer Fun 6.33
118 Your Haunted Heart 6.33
119 I Will Walk You Home 6.31
120 Last Words Of The Great Explorer 6.31
121 Happy Homeland 6.29
122 Statute Of Liberty 6.29
123 New Ways Are Best 6.27
124 Walk Away 6.27
125 Blind Love 6.25
126 Feet On The Ground 6.25
127 Putting Up A Front 6.25
128 Beauty Treatment 6.22
129 Third Term 6.22
130 War Fever 6.22
131 We Who Wait 6.21
132 Empty Wallet 6.17
133 Fix It 6.17
134 Newboys 6.17
135 Ghosts 6.10
136 I Looked At The Sun 6.09
137 Drowning Men 6.08
138 The Adverts 6.08
139 The Perfect Life 6.08
 :arrow: 140 Back From The Dead 6.08
141 Quickstep 6.08
142 Burning Rain 6.00
143 Parade 6.00
144 Safe House 6.00
145 Silicon Valley Holiday 6.00
146 Wake Up! 6.00
147 Dominator 5.82
148 I Live For Everything 5.82
149 On Your Video 5.82
150 Coming Round 5.80
151 Walk In A Straight Line 5.80
152 Fate Of Criminals 5.73
153 Have Fun 5.73
154 My Place 5.73
155 Looking Down On London 5.70
156 Love Songs 5.69
 :arrow: 157 Kings Of The Wreckage 5.67
158 Leisure Time 5.67
159 The Suit 5.67
160 Male Assault 5.60
161 A World Of My Own 5.56
162 Cracking Up 5.56
163 London Beach 5.56
164 Headhunters 5.50
165 Trans-Time 5.50
166 Imagination 5.45
167 The Unwelcome Guest 5.45
168 See Europe 5.40
169 Woodpecker 5.40
 :arrow: 170 The Big Break 5.33
171 Treasure 5.10
172 In My World Of Words 5.00
 :arrow: 173 Making Machines 5.00
 :arrow: 174 Torpedo 5.00
175 Cut Up 4.00
176 Don't Want To Be Lonely Tonight 4.00
177 Dum de Dum 4.00
178 Hollywood 4.00
179 Listen, Don't Think 4.00
180 Piss Artists 4.00
181 Save Me From The Night 4.00
182 Showbiz Kids 4.00
183 Signals 4.00

 8)
Title: The Dance Of War
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 10:47:12 AM
It's great to see the awesome demo Some Kind Of War in TV Smith's Top 20. It's a track that TV and Richard nearly played together at Glastonwick 7 at Southwick last summer. So very close and yet so far! It's the two worlds greatest singer-songwriters at their melodic and moving best.  :D

I think the four Strange/Smith songs that came out on top are the best four of the 'Raw Meat For The Missionaries' demo's that I receive so many emails about. Dance Of Death, like Some Kind Of War (where the demo's title is taken from) is an absolute classic.  :D

The start to both songs are two of the greatest starts to songs I have ever heard. They both really deserve to be heard. 8)

Tj 'Kid' Sundown   8)
Title: Raw Meat For The Missionaries
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 11:00:40 AM
Speaking of Some Kind Of War and Dance Of Death, which have both made TV Smit's Top 100, here's what Richard emailed me about making the demo's with TV:

As so often happens in that business, the timing just didn't work for TV and me with those recordings. I was already thinking about The Phenomenal Rise, and to be honest didn't want to get into a full-time diversionary project.

I agree with you that the songs would benefit enormously from having had a bit of money thrown at them and a half-decent recording budget. I think they have a certain melancholic atmosphere which unites all the tracks, and I remember how excited we were at the time we were doing them. Every time we got together we seemed to write new stuff.

*I would be very happy for you to run a website covering the period between The Doctors and Happiness. Let me know when you want to get started and I am sure I can let you have a lot of help and material

Best wishes

Richard

*Err the last bit never came to fruition because I hadn't realised the limit to my technical talent back in 2001. One could say I was Just Exploring Madness!

Tj 'Kid' Sundown 8)
Title: From Strange To TV
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 11:08:46 AM
5 pages of postings, but only 63 replies. :(

It's STRANGE how I have had more success in converting Smith fans like Mainlines Steve and Rocket Ron into TUTS than the other way round. :?

Why is that?

 8)
Title: In The AfterGlow
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 11:12:43 AM
Mind you thinking about it.

There is Hippie Dave Damned who is a fan of both and Uli bought Late Night Movies by the Doctors and Klaus, Fred and Fleag all enjoyed Richard's show at Southwick. So that's not too bad it it.

And then there is always my good friend C5 :P  :wink:  :lol:

 8)

Tj go and get some bloody studying done your talking to your bloody self :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :oops:  8)  :oops:
Title: Life's Great Rewards: Forums and Lists
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:11:45 PM
Hey I've got loads of 'homework' done so I've rewarded myself by allowing myself back onto the Worlds friendliset forum and given myself the ultimate thrill - making a list :D (The full and final Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart)

I'm just nipping off to post it on the Doctors forum.

I'll be back...

...as the next President of The Ultimate State Of Blood And Money once said.

 8)
Title: The Full Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:27:31 PM
So TUTS here it is in all it's glory:

The Official Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart by Tj 'Kid' Sundown, Richard Strange, Stoner and The AfterGlow.

1. Mainlines Prologue/Mainlines
2. Marie & Joe
3. Brothers/Suicide City
4. Billy Watch Out
4. Waiting/Please Don’t Shoot The Pianist
6. Mitzi’s Cure/I Think Were Alone
7. Sons Of Survival
8. Kiss Goodbye Tomorrow
9. Triple Vision
9. Network

11. Out
12. B-Movie Bedtime
13. Afterglow
14. No Limits
15. Doctors Of Madness
15. In Camera (Huis Clos)
17. 50’s Kids
18. Bulletin
19. Cool
20. The Noises Of The Evening
21. Back From The Dead
22. Perfect Past
22. Waiting For My Man
24. Into The Strange
24. Don’t Panic England
24. What Goes On?

Don't Panic England is another TV Smith and Richard Strange song. This one was sung by Dave Vanian and it almost was the Doctors last ever single...

...almost. :cry:  

Any comments most gratefully appreciated.

Tj 'Kid' Sundown 21.08.03

 8)
Title: So Strange To Be Stoned...
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:32:19 PM
This next chart is the amalgamated votes from Ricahrd Strange and Colin Stoner:

1. Mainlines Prologue/Mainlines (1)
2. Marie & Joe (2)
3. Triple Vision (9)
4. Network (9)
5. Sons Of Survival (7)
6. The Noises Of The Evening (20)
7. Billy Watch Out (4)
8. Brothers/Suicide City (3)
9. Out (11)
10. Perfect Past (22)

11. Kiss Goodbye Tomorrow (8 )
12. Back From The Dead (21)
13. In Camera (Huis Clos) (15)
14. What Goes On? (24)

Songs Not Voted For by Strange & Stoner:

(4) Waiting/Please Don’t Shoot The Pianist
(6) Mitzi’s Cure/I Think Were Alone
(12) B-Movie Bedtime
(13) Afterglow
(14) No Limits
(15) Doctors Of Madness
(17) 50’s Kids
(18 ) Bulletin
(19) Cool
(22) Waiting For My Man
(24) Into The Strange
(24) Don’t Panic England

The numbers in brackets refer to the full DOM Songs Chart.

Waiting was a bit of a shock...
...But they got the two Giants spot on!

Richard played synth for The Adverts in their finest few miutes; the awesome Cast Of Thousands. Colin was the backbone of The Explorers with his stunning bass playing and underated backing vocals.

What do you think of the S&S chart?

Tj 'Kid' Sundown

 8)
Title: Last Words From Stoner
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:35:31 PM
Here's a Last Words on the chart from The great Explorer:

"I loved just about everything we did, it was a huge part of my life. There’s not a lot I would change except maybe our management and record company, not what The Doctors should have ordered perhaps.

Good luck with the poll, I hope you get your deposit refunded, stay in touch."

BEST WISHES,
STONER

 8)
Title: Last Words From The Great Strange
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:38:11 PM
Here's a few Last Words on the chart from the Strange Advert:

"I would just like to thank you all for voting in TJ's Doctors of Madness Poll. I am touched and flattered that so many of you even remember the songs, let alone are still able to be so passionate about them. Thank you all, and especially thanks to you, TJ, for all the work, support and encouragement you give.*

I think the final list is pretty much as I would have hoped, thought the actual positions of the songs in the chart may have raised some eyebrows."

Very best wishes to you all- enjoy the summer
De-condition!!
Richard

*Gulp! :oops:  8)  :oops:
Title: Last Words From Mr Last Words
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:42:40 PM
GAWd it's like a beauty pagent :roll:  :lol:

I'd like to finish off by thanking the dozens of Doctors Of Madness fans (The AfterGlow - I never give in!) for taking the time to share their own favourite Doctors songs with me.

One day I'll share more of their feedback with you. One of the strangest but most enlightning emails I received said simply... "Why?"
...Why not?

Cheers and hang loose you DOCers!

Tj 'Kid' Sundown

 8)

Thanks for 'listening' TUTS :D And don't worry they hear more about TV Smith than you do about Richard Strange and Stoner :wink:
Title: Final Last Words
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:45:57 PM
For those wondering...

No Teev didn't vote he was too busy producing an album and two singles and playing hundreds of gigs. But that's how I found out that he only hadn't voted on his own chart because he is was busy. Which to me does imply that he does intend to vote at some time.

We did get votes from Attila The Stockbroker and Joe Elliot from Deff Lepard though 8O

 8)
Title: Top Ten Replies
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:49:06 PM
Just checked out the TV & TUTS Forum stats 8O Boy is it difficult to get into the Top 10 Replies Chart :(

 :roll:  8)  :roll:
Title: TV Smith & Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Stats)
Post by: Tj on August 21, 2003, 04:52:40 PM
Hey what do you know :D :

Most Viewed Topics
Rank Views Topic
1 2449 SOUTHWICK 2
2 1721 Not A Bad Tour (TV and Garden Gang in May)
3 1253 Dodgy 'punk' bands???!!!
4 971 HITS '03!
5 958 German tour
6 926 First Records
7 878 Question: The end of the world?
8 871 unplug the t.v.
9 807 TV Smith & Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Ever)
10 781 avatars

Most Active Topics  
Rank Replies Topic
1 228 SOUTHWICK 2
2 171 Not A Bad Tour (TV and Garden Gang in May)
3 93 HITS '03!
4 90 punk nite out.london 25th june.tv + knox
5 80 German tour
6 76 Forthcoming UK Gigs - Who's Going?
7 75 Question: The end of the world?
8 72 TV Smith & Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Ever)
9 72 Dodgy 'punk' bands???!!!
10 72 What Songs Are You Hoping For On The New TV Album?

It will be the End Of The World before we know it :wink:

 8) The Kid :P

To find out the stats for lots of lists :D click on this  :arrow:  http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/statistics.php
Title: Another Bulletin
Post by: Tj on August 24, 2003, 09:00:13 PM
Another Bulletin for all your TUTS AfterGlows!

Hi Doctors people!

RICHARD STRANGE LIVE, NEW YORK, EDINBURGH FESTIVAL AND CANTERBURY FAYRE!!!!

Sorry everyone for being so slack in updates recently - have had to move house and it's been a PIG of a job getting back online. Anway...

RICHARD LIVE IN NEW YORK, July 9th at CBGB's, and 11th at Joe's pub, 425 Lafayette Street, 9.30pm. The latter will feature former ZE Records artiste Christina (Is That All There Is/Disco Clone etc) I'm told.

RICHARD AT EDINBURGH FESTIVAL, 20th/21st/22nd August, 9pm as part of the Lift Festival at the Pleasance

RICHARD AT CANTEBURY FAYRE, August 24th, at Mount Ephriam Gardens, Hernhill (Nr Cantebury), Kent. A festival which will include, amongst others, Arthur Lee's Love and the Buzzcocks! see www.canteburyfayre.com

Richard also writes: "I am currently resting form the everyenjopyabletour with PROTEIN DANCE, the company I have been working with since March. We recommence a UK tour in October, with shows in Warwick, Cambridge, Liverpool, Brighton and Darlington, culminatiung in a big show at The Queen Elizabeth Hall, London, on October 30th"

DOCTORS SONG POLL

Vote for your favourite Doctor's tracks in site regular TJ's survey. See the thread on the discussion board for more details. If none of my favourites make the top five, there'll be tantrums.

RICHARD STRANGE LIVE!! IN JAPAN!

In April, the Japanese group 'Sister Paul' got together with Richard for three gigs, performing 'Doctors of Madness' sets in Tokyo and Osako. I've since heard great things about these dates, and will have some pictures up soon!

REISSUES!

Ozit's reissues of Figments of Emancipation and Sons of Survival are now on general release and are also available by mail order. Click HERE for more details and samples of the cover artwork, also if you wanna see 'Figments' original vinyl issue sleevenotes.

GANGS OF NEW YORK

As far as I can gather, Richard's scenes in Martin Scorcese's newly-released 'Gangs of New York' have wound up on the cutting room floor. Richard played an undertaker named 'Cornelius', for which he worked at Rome's legendary Cinecitta studios. Maybe we should petition for them to be included as extras when the DVD release comes around?

RICHARD'S SITE / DOCTORS LIVE CASSETTE

For more details of Richard's activities, see www.richardstrange.com , which has all the Strangeness you could wish for, plus tempting CDs for sale! There's also a cassette only release of a live Doctors' gig on sale there, with the full four-piece line up in fine form!

RICHARD'S BOOK

Richard's autobiography, 'Strange - Punks and Drunks and Flicks and Kicks' was published in May by Andre Deutsch. A cracking read, with plenty on Richard's time with the Doctors, not to mention his diverse activities before and since. Richard has been entertaining audiences with extracts from this over the last year or so, highlights including his brushes with The Sex Pistols, Jack Nicholson and others, not to mention the infamous 'tuck in, lads' episode... again, copies can be obtained thru Richard's site, www.richardstrange.com

LIVE CD

The japanese label Captain Trip Records have released a live CD, 'Into The Strange' (see right), documenting the Doctors of Madness' final show in 1978. The sound quality is less than pristine in places, and it's maybe not the best starting point for newcomers to check the band out. But hell, I like it anyway! Criticisms apart, for the dedicated fan, and therefore the majority of you site regulars out there, this 40 minute account of the three-piece Doctors' final stand is still likely to be one for the shopping list. Sonic murkiness aside, there's some fine moments captured here - Marie and Joe, for instance, is a compellingly raw rendition, and Mitzi's Cure/I think we're alone are similarly effective. The closing track, 'Out' seems particularly poignant in its finality. Furthermore there's 2 previously unreleased numbers, 'Trouble', and a cover of the Velvets' 'What Goes On', plus a solo acoustic rerecording of 'Mainlines Prologue' serving as an intro.The CD's packaging is a treat, with a ton of photos, lyrics and sleevenotes by Richard. Altogether, it's worth the struggle with the limitations of the 1970s club-venue mixing desk for this document of the Doctors farewell. That's my verdict anyhow, feel free to discuss!

DAVID VANIAN ON THE DOCTORS

It's been there a while, but I'll plug it anyway... I've interviewed the Damned's David Vanian concerning his brief stint as a Dcotor. Look!

OTHER UPDATES

In the last few months there's been a couple of additions to Cuttings and the gallery, which now includes a couple of images forwarded to me by a mysterious man who calls himself Urban Blitz and claims to be situated in a cave outside Khandahar... judge for yourself. Anyway, it's worth checking fairly regurlarly as things do filter through to me from time to time...

As ever, the site is far from complete; I should have something more substantial for 'Meet the Doctors' fairly soon, (I know, I keep promising!) and some links are long overdue. On top of this, a Doctors chronology is also on the cards. Patience! As always, my thanks for all the feedback that's been coming in - it's nice to see such a level of interest out there. I've been sent some fantastic material for the site in the form of reminiscences, which can be viewed in cuttings/testimonials . A big thank you to Kid Sundown, Joern Lade and Mike Flanagan for this material. If anyone out there has any more, please get in touch! Oh, and if you didn't know already, the discussion board is back in business. Please note that any banner advertising is put there by the service provider, and nothing to do with me personally! (Oh, and if you're going to trade discs/memorabilia etc in there, please play fair, as I can't get involved in any disputes that might arise. Sorry to be a bore, I know you're a civilised bunch!)

RECENT BITS AND PIECES

I gather from various postings in the discussion board that Richard and TV Smith's appearances at 'Glastonwick', Southwick's Beer Music and Poetry festival on June 1st went down very well, as did Richard's 'one man show' at the Hoxton Hall, N1, which took place on June 23rd. As well as reading extracts from his book, Richard performed both acoustically and with a full band featuring David Coulter and others. Richard also appeared in the Autumn, at the Greasy Truckers Party at Hebden Bridge, Yorkshire. See flyer to the right. Is Richard a greasy trucker?? Wouldn't have thought so. Also featuring were Tractor and Spaceritual.net, featuring various ex-Hawkwind types.E

Back in October '01, Richard performed live in Stratford-Upon- Avon, backed by 2nd year students from the popular music course at Stratford Upon Avon Colleg. The show was directed by ex-Pogue, ex-Test Department multi-instrumentalist David Coulter. Much to my disgrace, I couldn't make it, but I've had a sneaky look at a tape of the show and RS was in fine form. I gather a reworking of 'Waiting' was recorded with the musicians featured at the show, not sure when this'll see the light of day...

LESS RECENTLY...

In June 2001, Richard gave a very enjoyable spoken word appearance at the Peaches Club, in Covent Garden. Previously to that, Richard performed at the Hope Festival in Sussex, which he reports went very well. Back in March, he also made a live appearance at the Barn theatre, Southwick, on a double bill with TV Smith. His performance combined acoustic numbers with some spoken passages from 'Strange'. as well as some new compositions, Richard ran through 'Waiting', 'Mitzi's Cure', 'I Think We're Alone' and 'Marie and Joe', much to the pleasure of the assembled Doctors fans.

Thanks as ever to Richard for his cooperation, also to Brian Harding, and many thanks again to everyone who's got in touch with their comments and Docs reminiscences. Keep em coming!

Come in, have a look around, and fall ever deeper...

 

INTO THE STRANGE!
 

 

More soon, in the meantime any comments, suggestions etc etc to hugh_gulland@hotmail.com
Title: What Ever Happened To...
Post by: Tj on September 06, 2003, 02:02:25 PM
Here's another post from The Doctors that you TUTS actually might find interesting...

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Never mind Hugh a certain Mr smith has a new CD out next month. A few listens to that might make you feel better.

$ Deal Dave


Hugh is the guy who runs the site and he was moaning about how all the old bands that the music press ever go on about are the likes of U2, The Stones, The Beetles etc. etc.

Check out www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk DISCUSSION BOARD to find out more.

The big question is, is who is $ Deal Dave :?:

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Title: You Know Who...
Post by: Tj on September 06, 2003, 02:05:05 PM
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Tj Sundown posted 9/6/03 2:05 PM

Hmm $ Deal 'Dave' singing the praises of TV's Smith's awesome new album Not A Bad Day (realeased one month today).

Could this be the return of Hippie 'Dave' Damned?

Tj


 :?  :?  :?  :?:  :?:  :?:

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Title: The 6th October is Not A Bad Day if you like TV Smith
Post by: Tj on September 06, 2003, 02:07:36 PM
The final Bulletin from The Doctors Cool Network:

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The 6th October is Not A Bad Day if you like TV Smith  

Tj Sundown  posted 9/6/03 2:16 PM        

Yes it's all true the official best album of the year is released on 6th October 2003. I've been fortunate to hear demo's of it twice and it is A STONKER.

If you do yourself Only One Favour in 2003 buy this CD. See www.tvsmith.com for details.

Tj  


 :idea: Come on TUTS lets start hitting other sites and start telling them about Not A Bad Day and £1M. :D

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Title: No Reply
Post by: Tj on September 07, 2003, 12:00:59 AM
Hmm loads of responses to other posts, yet nothing in here despite lots of posts about TV Smith and the possible return of Hippie Dave Damned. :?

I'm starting to believe that the TUTS are skipping this section of posts.

Am I right?

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Title: Rocket Ron Responds
Post by: Tj on September 07, 2003, 12:03:23 AM
Well Jock once said I was very determined. :wink:

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Ron  posted 9/6/03 11:44 PM    

OK Tj,
I'll do myself a favour, and following my initiation into the TUTS at Peterborough TV can count on my continued support and the purchase of the new album
See you at the next TUTs 'special'
Ron  

Tj Sundown  posted 9/7/03 0:17 AM    
   
Thanks Ron,
Well you asked for it Rocket Ron, this is TV's all too short UK Tour in 2003:
Sun 14 Sep 03 MANCHESTER - Star and Garter
Fairfield Street , Manchester ( 0161 273 6726 )
Doors open : 7.30p.m
Entry £4.00
7.45p.m : The Spinning Fields
8.35 p.m : Because They Came From The Wrong Side Of Town
9.30p.m - 10.30p.m : TV Smith
(all timings approx)
Because They Came From The Wrong Side Of Town....
Twisted country sounds which City Life likened to "Spiders From Mars meets Kurt Weill"
(features ex-members of T.V.Smith faves Harvey's Rabbit.)
The Spinning Fields promoting their "Drunkenness and Cruelty" album which is full of well crafted and catchy songs
Come early!

Wed 17 Sep 03 POULTON (NR BLACKPOOL) - The Royal Oak
Support from Ramones cover band "Sedated,"
plus punk rock film show *confirmed.*
Accomodation available at the venue, tel 01253 882198
Entry £5.00. 7.30 pm. Info 07778 333311
Thu 18 Sep 03 DERBY - The Vic
Support - Paul Carter. Come early!
Midland Place, Derby. Tel. 01332 740091
Fri 19 Sep 03 GLASGOW - DeathKill4000 @ Woodside Social Club
10pm - 2am
Sun 21 Sep 03 GATESHEAD - 3 Tuns
92 Sherrif's Highway, Gateshead NE9 5SD.
Tel 0191 487 0666
T.V.Smith with 1977
Support: T.V.Smith solo.
Gateshead is a must and Derby is always a great night out. Some 'proper' Oakham in the Smithfield as well.
Fancy any anyone?
Tj
Title: I Think Were Alone Now
Post by: Tj on September 07, 2003, 12:06:32 AM
 :idea: Views currently stand at 876 so I can find out if I am talking to myself 8)  

...As if I would, with my reputation :wink:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

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Title: Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on September 09, 2003, 06:49:43 PM
Hmm 897 :D So it is getting some hits.

So here's some more Smith, Strange and Stoner for you:

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Returning home, the Adverts signed the worldwide deal they had been hankering after, pledging themselves to RCA - who immediately sacked the person responsible, and sent the band into the studio to see what they could come up with. They responded with one of their strongest singles yet, and their first in ten months, "Television's Over." It was produced, to the astonishment of everyone who read the credits, by Tom Newman, of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells shaped fame, and backed by "Back From The Dead," the earliest of a clutch of songs cowritten by T.V. and Richard Strange, of the Doctors Of Madness.
   "Tim first introduced himself as a fan, he and gaye used to come and see the Doctors every time we played in the West Country," Strange remembers. "We got to know each other, and when they moved up to London with the Adverts, I used to go along, socially at first, then I started to really enjoy Tim's writing, and from there we got into writing together."
    Strange was even more effusive in the press. "T.V. is the only New Wave songwriter who can string together two sentences and still remember what the first one was... apart from me, of course," proclaimed the man who considered only Bob Dylan and John Lennon could rival him in the "Greatest Writer Of The Twentieth Century" stakes.
   Around fifteen songs were born of this union, but only "Back From The Dead" ever made it onto vinyl, first on the Doctors' own third album, Sons Of Survival (Polydor 2383 472), and now on the Adverts' b-side.
   However, two others, "Making Machines" and "Last Human Being In The World" received an airing when T.V. came on stage during the last ever Doctors gig, at the Music Machine on October 26, 1978, while the Doctors also recorded the duo's "Don't Panic England," for a projected final single. Featuring the Damned's Dave Vanian on vocals, the release would eventually be shelved, and has never seen the light of day even on bootleg.
    "It was," says bassist Stoner, "horrible."

Dave Thompson Bored Teenager for Goldmine
   


Come on Stoner, I quite like it :D It would have been better if you had sung it though. 8)

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Title: The Greatest Concept Album Ever Made
Post by: Tj on September 12, 2003, 05:46:45 PM
Here's some more on TV and Richard from the two Daves (still don't know if it is Hippie Dave Damned).

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$ Deal Dave    posted 9/10/03 5:06 PM     www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk

Bored at work surfing the net checked out Richard on E Bay. Found Phenomenal Rise for sale. The review below was included in the sales spiel. Worth repeating I thought.If any one from Ozit or Captain Trips reads this board PLEASE make this your next Re-release.Stunning the London and New York club scene with a powerful narrative and some devastating songs, The Phenomenal Rise of Richard Strange began life as a solo stage show, a political satire in which the eponymous hero -- a top rock idol -- is elected president of a futuristic European federation, then falls tragically foul of the very men who raised him to such heights. At a time when the United States were being governed by a film star, and the U.K. by a harridan, such a scenario didn't seem so odd. What was remarkable was the ease with which Strange eased the saga into a single and so solid album. Built around dynamics (if not arrangements) which had characterized Strange's work since his emergence at the helm of the Doctors of Madness, the strident opening title track and the closing "I Won't Run Away" have a dramatic power which bookends the album to perfection, guitars and saxophones to the fore. Elsewhere within the cycle, the frenetic "Gutter Press" recalls the "Doctors"' "Bulletin" in both style and subject matter, while the ballad "Who Cries For Me" features some intriguing backing vocals from Strange's former occasional writing partner, Adverts vocalist TV Smith (he appears under the self-explanatory pseudonym Radio Jones). Paying close attention to the lyrics reveals that a couple of the songs exist primarily for their ability to drive the storyline along, but Phenomenal Rise's greatest asset is the fact that much of it stands up to scrutiny even without the overall framework. It's a claim, after all, which precious few other concept albums can make, but one which is backed up by the success of the two singles drawn from the sessions, the edgy "International Language" and "Phenomenal Rise" itself -- neither charted, but both attracted attention at the time. If there was any downside to the album, it was that only a portion of the entire stage show was included. Hopes that Strange would unleash a double album were dashed very early on, while plans for a conventional theatrical or cinema presentation never came to pass. However, several of the absentee tracks can be gathered up from the Live Rise album and Fools Rush In compilation, and even in abbreviated fashion, The Phenomenal Rise was both peerless and nigh on perfect. The greatest concept album ever made? Quite so. ~ Dave Thompson, All Music Guide


And the Live version is even better. 8)

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Title: I Won't Run Away
Post by: Tj on September 13, 2003, 10:03:54 PM
More from your favourite Doctor:

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Tj Sundown  posted 9/13/03 10:16 PM        
"Built around dynamics (if not arrangements) which had characterized Strange's work since his emergence at the helm of the Doctors of Madness, the strident opening title track and the closing "" have a dramatic power which bookends the album to perfection, guitars and saxophones to the fore."
Dave Thompson
Brilliant Dave.
"I Won't Run Away" is on a par with Mainlines, Marie & Joe and Billy Watch Out in my book.
STANGEly my favourite three artists TV Smith, Richard Strange and Ron & Russell Mael (the Sparks brothers) are also big favourites of Dave's. So much so that he started his excellent career as an author writing and designing the early 80's TV Smith fanzine called TV Times.I'm emailing him again on Monday, so I'll let him know about the mentions he has had on this forum.
Tj


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Title: False Hippie!
Post by: Tj on September 13, 2003, 10:08:14 PM
Oops wrond Dave again :roll: I've got deja vu. :oops:

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$ Deal Dave  posted 9/12/03 8:48 PM    

Hi TJ sorry to dissapoint you but I'm not Hippie Dave (apologies to that esteemed gentleman for any confusion)I'm just a fan who got fed up with my usual sign in name.I would have posted this on the TV site but I've forgotten my password !!! I won't be at any of Richards gigs this year but will hopefully see you & the TUTS if TV plays London soon.  

Tj Sundown  posted 9/13/03 10:19 PM        

I suggest you get a new sign in name then Dave! No worries that you are not Hippie Dave. Mixing my Dave's up is a mistake I seem to make quite a lot.
I'm off to see TV in Manchester tomorrow night. Can't wait!
Cheers Dave
Tj  


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Title: Ah! Fame At Last For Sundown
Post by: Tj on September 21, 2003, 12:31:42 PM
This is an update on a link site I mentioned on here sometime ago. The first mention was back in the days where Tj and Kid Sundow were 'two different' people :wink: The bit about me is in bold.

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Richard Strange has been the charismatic frontman of the now legendary proto-punk group ' Doctors of Madness '. Since their demise he has been artistically involved in numerous enterprises. Everything is excellently documented at his very own web-site which has been launched by the end of March 2002. You will not only get the latest infos there, but you can even order a variety of goodies and exclusives! Some minor updates have been added to the site since it's start. Check out the press-section and enjoy the confusion Richard created at the BBC.

The story of the Doctors of Madness is told at their official website which is kept by Hugh . As a bonus he even keeps an active messageboard . Amongst the regular posters you will find TJ Sundown who must be considered as the greatest living combined TV Smith and Richard Strange fan-base ever, Brian Harding - a very fine and friendly gentleman, who never was a roadie for the Doctors , but at least got stuck on Danish girls and a certain 'Richard' will sporadically post exciting news. On the board he announced the imminent release of a new Doctors of Madness live album on the Japanese label Captain Trip and you get regular updates for his somewhat hectic schedules. Recently he indicated that there will be new 'Happiness' recordings available and there might be the chance that a new 'Doctors' live CD with the help of Japanese band 'Sister Paul' might see the light of the day.

The album Into The Strange is on sale in Japan since February 02 and can be obtained either from Captain Trip directly or through various online sources. Be sure to get it , because it is not only a historical recording of the last ever performance by the `Doctors´ but also contains a very fine version of the Velvet Underground `What Goes On´.

All 3 classic Polydor Albums have been re-released by the small Ozit label . The fantastic debut album 'Late night movies - All night brainstorms' has been on the market since 1998 with added bonus tracks . A very fine review recently appeared on Newspaper Taxi Meanwhile Ozit has released 'Figments of Emancipation' and 'Sons of Survival' as well. If you have not bought the Japanese CD releases a couple of years ago they are a special treat with bonus tracks and guest appearances by Dave Vanian and TV Smith.

If you still need further information on the 'Doctors' you can visit the All Music Guide. They have very favourable reviews of the Doctors and their albums. Another great review seemed to be lost forever but thankfully the Trouserpress pages are active again again ! An extremely valuable source - give it a try.

Richard' s solo career as a musician is documented on the All Music Guide as well. Though it does not mention his latest offerings with his group 'Happiness'. You can listen, buy and download their music at Vitaminic in mp3-format or order the cd version at Richard' s site. An absolute must have item since it contains the new classic 'You Will Die!' which was brought to a wider audience at BBC's Today Show.

A collection of Richard' s solo 'Masterpieces' seems to be in the making on the German label 'Ausfahrt' but has not been officially confirmed yet!

All his solo albums and various singles are long deleted and thus hard to find. If you still want to get hold of any of those check out www.cybercd.de, www.netsounds.co.uk, www.musicstack.com, www.gemm.com or www.ebay.com .

Mr. Strange has appeared in several box office hit movies as supporting actor. The latest addition is the forthcoming Martin Scorcese directed movie 'Gangs of New York'. Obviously the scenes with Richard have been edit out - so let' s see whether the DVD version will have some additional footage. His movie and tv activities can be followed at the International Movie Database. Richard even made guest appearences in German TV as a 'butler' which is documented here .

And finally Richard wrote down his story which is being published by Andre Deutsch Ltd. You can order 'Punks and Drunks, Flicks and Kicks' at www.Amazon.co.uk or www.Bookshop.co.uk (WH Smith). Excerpts can be found at Richard' s website. The reviews have been very favourable and the book is enjoyable and intelligently written. Starting in the 50ies and heading straight into the future it is a journey through more than 4 decades. Buy it now !

Accompanying the release of his book Mr. Strange has done a couple of rare live appearences in 2002. He appeared at the 'Glastonwick Beer Festival 2002' and 'Hoxton Hall, London' and did a couple Radio and Tv shows. I will put up some material from the radio shows soon. April 2003 saw him appearing on a short tour in Japan together with David Coulter and the Japanese Group 'Sister Paul' billed as the 'Doctors of Madness' . The tour seems to have been very successful (see also in the news section). The latest developments indicate though that Richard' s career is getting a very new and unusual twist again and he is becoming some sort of very modern ballet-dancer (or maybe my English is just too lousy).

If you want to find out for yourself what can be found in the internet on Richard and 'Doctors' - just try 'Google' or 'Altavista' . Or try an metasearch at Vivisimo.com with it' s cool features
Title: Tj The Barmy Army
Post by: Tj on September 21, 2003, 12:40:55 PM
Seriously though Joern's link site is ace it has lots of links to virtually eveything Strange on the internet :D

Check it out on http://strange.qxite.de/

I asked him why he used the word fan 'base' and he sent me this nice letter along with a lovely gift that I must repay him for :D

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"The "base" thing: Maybe I'm expressing it wrongly (my mother tongue is German) but I regard you as a one man army in a war to fight ignorance towards Richard Strange, the Doctors and TV Smith... So armies do have bases (or am I mistaken)...  :D "  

Joern.


If you ever read this Joern, no you are not mistaken and many thanks for your kind words.

Talking of buliding armies though it's been far easier to help build a TVSmith United Tour Supporters (TUTS) army than The AfterGlow (TAGS) army (that has been like pulling teath  :( .

Cheers for 'listening.'

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Title: Interpretations and Opinions of Lyrics
Post by: Tj on September 21, 2003, 12:48:45 PM
Here's an interesting idea for this forum. It's by Brian, the brother of Richard Strange:

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What is he on about??  
Brian  posted 9/20/03 11:57 AM        
I have requested and received the artiste's permission to write a few short pieces on my interpretations and opinions of the lyrics and music of The Doctors of Madness.
These short essays will be my account of what I see and hear as they unfold, or remember (if anything) about their conception and development. It must be stressed that anything I write is my opinion only and not necessarily anything to do with the truth !!
I am allowed to comment on names where they appear, but not to put names to any event where they do not appear. This is fair enough.
Anyone who has seen the film before reading the book will have a picture dominated by the film of the characters and events as they appear when reading the book. Anyone reading the book first will often be surprised and sometimes dissapointed when the see the film. Anyone wishing keep their own private fantasies of the songs should avoid reading anything on the message board marked "Brian" together with the title of a song.
I will attempt "Mainlines" in the near future to start off with.  


What do you TUTS think about doing this on TV Songs?

I suppose I tried to do this in TV Questions a couple of times, particularly on Ship In A Bottle.

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Title: Tj Plugs TV (The Raw Meat Demo's and The Explorers)
Post by: Tj on September 21, 2003, 12:52:30 PM
This was my response to Brian. Forever plugging TV and receiving far more feedback in their very quite forum than I ever do in the TV & the TUTS forum:

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Tj Sundown  posted 9/21/03 12:43 AM        

Ace idea Brain. Can't wait!

We have a section on lyrics in TV Smith's site, but nothing so profound.
Here is a link to the TV lyrics written with Richard and the songs he performed and recorded with Stoner in The Explorers: http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=977&start=15

Tj Sundown


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Title: TJ The Barmy Army
Post by: $ Deal Dave on September 30, 2003, 09:43:42 PM
Sorry to read your "disapointment" in attempting to form a Richard Strange "Fan Club". The main difference between the TUTS + the TAGS is that TV is almost permanently on tour and therefore the TUTS have an opportunity to meet & see TV where as Richard gigs only rarely (3 gigs this year) The tour with the dance company does not count as by his own admission Richard will not be performing any of his material.
TV has stuck close to his roots and fan base and is now producing music of (in my opinion) far greater quality than he did with the Adverts. Richard on the other hand had his finest hour with the Doctors and with the Phenomenal Rise LPs. He has now moved on to more " esoteric " areas which while enjoyable (the gig @ Hoxton was incredible) will never,for me, get close to the music of the Doctors. Fair play to you and your enthusiasm for both TV & Richard especially on the Doctors message board where at times you seem to be the only poster. Any way feel free to copy and paste this onto the Doctors board and "slag" me off as you see fit no problem I'll still buy you a pint next time I see you.
Title: TUTS 10 TAGS 3
Post by: Tj on September 30, 2003, 11:25:13 PM
Fancy meeting you hear.

Yet another Tv fan from www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk

...Slag off a fellow Alias Smith & Strange fan. Not in a million years.

Did you say no old Strange stuff on the new tour? Erk! 8O  :roll:

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PS: Yes Hoxton was awesome. :D
Title: TV Smith Speaks Out On The Doctors Of Madness
Post by: Tj on October 11, 2003, 08:53:08 PM
Just read this in the excellent The Big Take-over magazine (see www.bigtakeover.com ) It's in issue 51. It's a great mag based around pure passion for music with a complete lack of pretense - check it out!
Tv and Editor Jack Rabid were talking about John Leckie producing records for XTX, X-Ray Spex, The Fall, PIL.....

TV Smith: Yeah and Doctors Of Madness. I think that's why we chose him actually - he had done one of their records, and I was a fan of theirs.

Jack Rabid: I reember hearing about them way back when Dave Vanian joined them on stage, after The Damned broke up. Until then I had never heard of them.

TV Smith: They were one of the few bands around before punk who were not following the mainstream format, and so on stage they were quite aggresive and energetic and had this great violin thing going through. So they were a great band to go and see in '75 and '76. Nothing else was really going on.

Awesome stuff also buy issues 25, 51 and 52 for more on TV. :D

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Title: 26.03.04
Post by: Tj on April 02, 2004, 07:25:12 PM
Just got this message from the other GREAT man, when he learnt that both Lisa and I lost our jobs on the same day:

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So sorry to hear about your double whammy TJ. What a pisser!

I hope that you misfortune is soon rectified.and that your situation is vastly improved.

Yes Ron's CD cut is very enjoyable and reminds me that we weren't a bad band.

Remind me of your address again

All the best

R


Bloody nice bloke. :D

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Title: 26.03.04
Post by: Tj on April 02, 2004, 07:30:36 PM
Just got this message from the other GREAT man, when he learnt that both Lisa and I lost our jobs on the same day:

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So sorry to hear about your double whammy TJ. What a pisser!

I hope that you misfortune is soon rectified.and that your situation is vastly improved.

Yes Ron's CD cut is very enjoyable and reminds me that we weren't a bad band.

Remind me of your address again

All the best

R


Bloody nice bloke. :D

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Title: A Strange Rumour
Post by: Tj on April 17, 2004, 09:30:52 PM
Rumour has it that two of my Monday night drinking m8's, The DRAY Riders, are turning up at EARTHBOUND 3, to alledgedly help Dave Sanders with the beer and organisation. :roll:

I wonder if anyone else rather Strange will turn up?

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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: $ Deal Dave on May 04, 2004, 09:48:19 AM
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[I wonder if anyone else rather Strange will turn up?


I hope you do get a "suprise " guest at the gig but I believe he's appearing in a play @ the Barbican at the time.

Should he manage to get a night off all you need is Stoner to turn up and youll have one hell of a group.

Have a great evening I'm sure the music will be awsome, not to sure about the beer though !!!
Title: Stoner TV Time
Post by: Tj on May 04, 2004, 09:44:02 PM
OK $ Dave,

I admit it was a ruse.

But I do know that Stoner lives bear Bristol.

Big help Frenzbob.  :D

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Title: Re: Stoner TV Time
Post by: frenzbob on May 04, 2004, 11:48:12 PM
Quote from: "Tj"


But I do know that Stoner lives bear Bristol.

Big help Frenzbob.  :D

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Lives bear Bristol? (there's a zoo there if that's any help?)

Big help Frenzbob? (what've I done?)

Have the Fleagles been feeding you those red n white mushrooms again?  8O   :twisted:
Title: Stoner and TV Live
Post by: Tj on May 05, 2004, 08:32:54 AM
I was trying to drink as fast as Fleagle, that's why I wrote such rubbish. :roll:  :oops:  :lol:

Mrs F says I've had a touch of Spring Fever (the name of the beer). :lol:

What I meant is that Stoner, the bass player from The Explorers (and the Doctors Of Madness), lives near Bristol and in the late 90's he played live with TV and if you are arranging a gig there...

 :wink:  :wink:

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Title: The Greatest Combined Acts Ever
Post by: Tj on May 05, 2004, 08:08:57 PM
I thought I'd better change the title of TV Smith and Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Ever) to Just Exploring Madness with TV, Stoner and Richard Strange as we are now also talking about my favourite ever bass player. :D

'Just Exploring Madness' was the name of the internet site that I was going to create when I first got a PC. Before I fully realsied my the depth of my PC skills. Instead I opted to support the TV Smith and Doctors Of Madness Forums and become an obsessed mad demon poster. :twisted:

The title comes from the line in a Doctors Of Madness song called No Limits. It's about one of my dream goals to see TV Smith, Stoner and Richard Strange on the stage live together again. They first and last did this at the Doctors Of Madness farewell concert in October 1978. I also chose the title because the words Exploring (from TV and Stoners band The Explorers) and Madness (from Richard Stranges and Stoners band The Doctors Of Madness). Ironically the only Doctors Of Madness song that Stoner sang was No Limits.

Of course the other connections between TV and Richard Strange are;

 :arrow: The two Southwick gigs where they performed the song they wrote together called Back From The Dead
 :arrow: The syhnthesiser on The Adverts Cast Of Thousands was played by Richard Strange
 :arrow: And of course there are the awesome seventies demo's called Raw Meat For The Missionaries, featuring the stunning Some Kind Of War and the Dance Of Death.

Hmm Some Kind Of War was mainly sung by TV. :idea:

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Title: 100 Not Out
Post by: Tj on May 08, 2004, 12:56:27 PM
As this is the 100th post in this section  8O I thought I would link it in to the Doctors of madness site and vice versa.  :D

I'm dead interested in nurturing the seeds of possibility and opportunity in enabling TV and Stoner to have another reunion gig. This time in Bristol. Where Frenzbob is hoping to arrange a TV gig. Stoner lives nearby. :D

It would be pure heaven. :D  :D  :D And another step nearer the TV, Stoner and Richard Strange reunion gig.


Here's the direct link to the Doctors Of Madness site :arrow: www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk simply enter The AfterGlow Discussion Board and then go into Just Exploring Madness - 100 pots on TV, Kid & Stoner.

And here's a couple of photo's from TV and Richard Stranges's last two reunion gigs :arrow:

This photo is of the day TV introduced me to Richard Strange; "Good evening my name is Richard Strange, pleased to meet you." said Richard, as ever the perfect Gentleman. The shot is at the end of TV's encore of Back From The Dead. The gig was on March 23rd, 2001 at The Barn Theatre in Southwick and the photo is taken by Ron from The AfterGlow. :arrow:

(http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics/117g/images/1.jpg)

This photo, taken by me, was at the same venue over a year later, on June 1st, 2002. The event was Glastonwick Music and Beer Festival 7, the gig is sometimes refered to as Southwick 2. This time round TV joined Richard on stage half way through his set to again play Back From The Dead. Some Kind Of War was also practiced, but it never made the set in the end. Later that night TV played the first EARTHBOUND gig. This not only started the fan club get togethers but also became the event that actually started the TV Smith fan club called the TUTS. The best night of the year - no contest :arrow:

(http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics/t52/images/2.jpg)

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Title: The AfterGlow of the Leppard Hunter 2
Post by: Tj on May 26, 2004, 10:40:49 AM
On the way out I bumped into Joe Elliott again. He spotted my my t-shirt, a Rocket Ron creation, that I save for late night's like this. As soon as he saw it he dived at me and grabbed hold of it with his eyees bulging out of his head and a massive grin, shouting "I want three, I want three."
I asked him if he knew where a certain TAG called Smogmorton was. "Wait here, I'll go get him, wait 'till he sees that shirt."

I waited with my mate Rob, who saw The Doctors Of Madness with me at Leeds University when Be-Bop lost the plot and missed the gig due to performing on Top Of The Pops.

Another bloke came up to me and said "Doctors Of Madness! I saw them support Be-Bop Deluxe at Leeds University. They were fantastic and then we got our money back because Be-Bop didn't turn up." The AfterGlow was burning bright.

Spogmorton arrived and was bowled over by Ron's handy work. I can feel a franshise coming on ;o) We chatted about Hunter, TV Smith (he's seen TV several times, including the legendary TV and Tom Robinson tour), but most of all we talked about those strange years of long ago.
Great close to a great night!

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Title: TV's Dirty Dozen
Post by: Tj on June 01, 2004, 12:18:59 AM
Sorry to repeat this post TUTS, but some of The AfterGlow read the posts in this section. Hope you don't mind. :D  
 
Some Kind Of War is currently at number 12 in the average scores TV Songs chart  

1 (1) Xmas Bloody Xmas 9.83
2 (2) Not In My Name 9.31
3 (3) Only One Flavour 9.28
4 (4) Expensive Being Poor 9.08
5 (5) Not A Bad Day 9.05
6 (6) Immortal Rich 8.90
7 (7) The Future Used To Be Better 8.83
8 (8 ) Runaway Train Driver 8.64
9 (9) Generation Y 8.54
10 (10) Soon As I Found It I Lost It 8.45
11 (11) Tomahawk Cruise 8.37
12 (12) Carrying On 8.33
  :arrow: (12) Some Kind Of War 8.33
14 (14) Great British Mistake 8.30
15 (15) One Chord Wonders 8.29
16 (16) March Of The Giants 8.28
17 (17) Gary Gilmore's Eyes 8.24
(17) Swimming In The Flood 8.24
19 (19) Gather Your Things And Go 8.15
20 (20) Thin Green Line 8.11

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Title: How Rather STRANGE
Post by: Tj on June 01, 2004, 12:21:14 AM
Here's a quote from Richard Strange's awesome book 'STRANGE - The memoirs of Richard Strange' a collection of great life tales of Punks and Drunks and Flicks and Kicks  :arrow:  

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I got together with TV Smith who had been through a similarly wrethched run, and we started writing a lot of songs together. We didn't know what we were going to do with them, but TV used to come round to our flat in Streatham and we would write a song every day. Some good, some lousy, but we had a good working relationship; we were on the same wavelength and could work together without getting on each other's nerves.

Despite the enthusiastic reception they got from both TV's mnager, Michael Demsey, and from my manager Bryan Morrison, nothing ever happened to any of those songs we wrote.


And then out of the blue, 25 years later, TV played one of them at a piss up in a brewery and blew away the party's host.

BANG!

Flat out he was.

Thanks again Teev.   :D  

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Title: Back From The War
Post by: Tj on June 01, 2004, 12:22:32 AM
Of course that completes the STRANGE connections to EARTHBOUND'S 1, 2 and 3. :D

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Title: Fame At Last For Tj
Post by: Tj on June 08, 2004, 04:13:22 PM
I've just been reading this from my m8 Joern on :arrow:  http://strange.qxite.de/index.php

The end bit was a bit of a surprise. 8O

Wait untill you check out the 'he most certainly is the only man you' ll ever need' link on Joerns site. 8O

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Richard Strange has been the charismatic frontman of the now legendary proto-punk group ' Doctors of Madness '. Since their demise he has been artistically involved in numerous enterprises. Everything is excellently documented at his very own web-site which has been launched by the end of March 2002. You will not only get the latest infos there, but you can even order a variety of goodies and exclusives! Some minor updates have been added to the site since it's start. Check out the press-section and enjoy the confusion Richard created at the BBC.

The story of the Doctors of Madness is told at their official website which is kept by Hugh . As a bonus he even keeps an active messageboard . Amongst the regular posters you will find TJ Sundown who must be considered as the greatest living combined TV Smith and Richard Strange fan-base ever, Brian Harding - a very fine and friendly gentleman, who never was a roadie for the Doctors , but at least got stuck on Danish girls and a certain 'Richard' will sporadically post exciting news. On the board he announced the imminent release of a new Doctors of Madness live album on the Japanese label Captain Trip and you get regular updates for his somewhat hectic schedules. Recently he indicated that there will be new 'Happiness' recordings available and there might be the chance that a new 'Doctors' live CD with the help of Japanese band 'Sister Paul' might see the light of the day.

The album Into The Strange is on sale in Japan since February 02 and can be obtained either from Captain Trip directly or through various online sources. Be sure to get it , because it is not only a historical recording of the last ever performance by the `Doctors´ but also contains a very fine version of the Velvet Underground `What Goes On´.

All 3 classic Polydor Albums have been re-released by the small Ozit label . The fantastic debut album 'Late night movies - All night brainstorms' has been on the market since 1998 with added bonus tracks . A very fine review recently appeared on Newspaper Taxi Meanwhile Ozit has released 'Figments of Emancipation' and 'Sons of Survival' as well. If you have not bought the Japanese CD releases a couple of years ago they are a special treat with bonus tracks and guest appearances by Dave Vanian and TV Smith.

If you still need further information on the 'Doctors' you can visit the All Music Guide. They have very favourable reviews of the Doctors and their albums. Another great review seemed to be lost forever but thankfully the Trouserpress pages are active again again ! An extremely valuable source - give it a try.

Richard' s solo career as a musician is documented on the All Music Guide as well. Though it does not mention his latest offerings with his group 'Happiness'. You can listen, buy and download their music at Vitaminic in mp3-format or order the cd version at Richard' s site. An absolute must have item since it contains the new classic 'You Will Die!' which was brought to a wider audience at BBC's Today Show.

A collection of Richard' s solo 'Masterpieces' seems to be in the making on the German label 'Ausfahrt' but has not been officially confirmed yet!

All his solo albums and various singles are long deleted and thus hard to find. If you still want to get hold of any of those check out www.cybercd.de, www.netsounds.co.uk, www.musicstack.com, www.gemm.com or www.ebay.com .

Mr. Strange has appeared in several box office hit movies as supporting actor. The latest addition is the forthcoming Martin Scorcese directed movie 'Gangs of New York'. Obviously the scenes with Richard have been edit out - so let' s see whether the DVD version will have some additional footage. His movie and tv activities can be followed at the International Movie Database. Richard even made guest appearences in German TV as a 'butler' which is documented here .

And finally Richard wrote down his story which is being published by Andre Deutsch Ltd. You can order 'Punks and Drunks, Flicks and Kicks' at www.Amazon.co.uk or www.Bookshop.co.uk (WH Smith). Excerpts can be found at Richard' s website. The reviews have been very favourable and the book is enjoyable and intelligently written. Starting in the 50ies and heading straight into the future it is a journey through more than 4 decades. Buy it now !

Accompanying the release of his book Mr. Strange has done a couple of rare live appearences in 2002. He appeared at the 'Glastonwick Beer Festival 2002' and 'Hoxton Hall, London' and did a couple Radio and Tv shows. I will put up some material from the radio shows soon. April 2003 saw him appearing on a short tour in Japan together with David Coulter and the Japanese Group 'Sister Paul' billed as the 'Doctors of Madness' . The tour seems to have been very successful (see also in the news section). The latest developments indicate though that Richard' s career is getting a very new and unusual twist again and he is becoming some sort of very modern ballet-dancer (or maybe my English is just too lousy).

If you want to find out for yourself what can be found in the internet on Richard and 'Doctors' - just try 'Google' or 'Altavista' . Or try an metasearch at Vivisimo.com with it' s cool features


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Meaning Serious Business

Our dear friend the most wonderful Mr. Tim Downes (alias Tj Sundown) has finally established his own business. If you need coaching for life, he most certainly is the only man you' ll ever need


Big thanks Joern, you're a star. :D

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Title: Re: How Rather STRANGE
Post by: Klaus on June 10, 2004, 12:27:23 AM
Quote from: "Tj"


And then out of the blue, 25 years later, TV played one of them at a piss up in a brewery and blew away the party's host.

BANG!

Flat out he was.

Thanks again Teev.   :D  

 8)


Thanks from me, as well.
Can't remember how many times I got blown away during that gig. :D

Klaus
Title: Klaus Gets A Blow
Post by: Tj on June 10, 2004, 09:53:01 AM
Yep there were so many peaks Klaus and I wanted to jump every single mountain top. But on hearing Some Kind Of War this Golden Eagle was spread out on that cold concrete flour like a good un.

...Good job Jock's photo didn't come out. :wink:  :lol:

Today I will be mostly playing...

Late Night Movies All Night Brainstorms, Mainline Resistance Is Low (live at Oundle School 1976), Figments Of Emancipation, Sons Of Survival, Into The Strange (live at The Music Machine in London 1978), The Live Rise Of Richard Strange (live at Hurrah's in New York 1980), The Phenominal Rise Of Richard Strange, Going Gone, The Rest Is Silence and All Banged Up.

...Ah! Pure Happiness.

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Title: STRANGE On Stoner And The Afterglow
Post by: Tj on June 27, 2004, 11:06:53 AM
I've just finished re-reading (again) the 'Doctors Of Madness - Kid & TV Smith Demo's - Phenominal Rise' part of Richard's STRANGE book.
I thought it would be appropriate to share his words on Stoner (awesome bass player with TV Smith's Explorers) and the Afterglow (the name of the Doctors Of Madness fan club that I recently founded).

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"Afterglow was a big, squelchy, amorous ballad about pos-coital bliss. It was essentailly an acoustic guitar song, but on the recording the bass guitar really becomes the lead instrument. Stoner plays a beautiful aching, yearning line, full of melody and yet somehow very controlled and restrained. At his best he was a bass player with sublime taste taste and touch. Phil McMeil of the NME got it dead right when he said "[Stoner] is a superbly fluent bassist whose every note, whether guiding the music or soloing against it, is totally in accord with the meaning of the song."

Drums and violin completed the instumental line up, with Peter adding some congas on the middle-eight. The song featured a lot of vocal harmonies from Stoner and Peter, and a certain amount of flanging on the guitars and violin, which made the whole thing swirl and sound very pretty. On reflection I think now that the song starts and stops too often, but that aside, it is one of the best tracks on the album."


Richard goes on to describe the "standout track," a certain Mainlines, recently voted by The AfterGlow, as the best ever Doctors Of Madness song.    

If you haven't got Richard's STRANGE book get it now. It's a definate must read!

 8) Tj 'Kid' Sundown
Title: Doctors Of Madness To Reform Rumour
Post by: Tj on July 09, 2004, 04:15:56 PM
8O  8O  8O  8O  8O

 8O  8)  8O

 :D
Title: Just Reforming Madness
Post by: Tj on July 10, 2004, 01:49:47 PM
Here's my letter to Stoner (bass player with TV Smith's Explorers) on the Doctors Of Madness reformation rumour.

THE EVENT OF THE 21st CENTURY.

You read it first hear TUTS. :D  

I sent a similar email to Richard Strange. :arrow:

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How are you Stoner?

I just wanted to tell you about a couple of things.

TV Smith played a special 40 song leaving do gig for me at the Eastwood & Sanders brewery in Elland just over a month ago. He played loads of great and rare songs including The Servant, The Easy Way, Walk Away and a certain Tomahawk Cruise. The free beer on the handpumps that day were First Light (same name as my new Success Coaching Company) and the explosive taste of Tomahawk Cruise. Yep an Explorers beer – can you believe it?

The second thing is even more unbelievable. There is a rumour going round that the greatest British band of all time the Doctors Of Madness are due to reform with three original members and tour Japan. Here’s a clip from the www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk The AfterGlow discussion board:

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Reformation

Carl Fitch    posted 7/7/04 5:39 PM    
 
I notice the Doctors of Madness are reforming for a short Japanese tour. Anyone yet heard of dates etc?

Ron    posted 7/7/04 9:50 PM    
 
WHHHAAAAAAAT??? or in American- Excuse me????

Carl Fitch    posted 7/8/04 7:23 AM    
 
Apparently all but one of the original members are to reform for about 8 dates around Japan and some of this stuff could be recorded.
hugh    posted 7/8/04 7:51 AM    
 
news to me... Richard???

Kid Sundown    posted 7/9/04 1:15 PM    
 
Hmm. If they did it anywhere it would be Japan.
Could it have been confused with Richard's last 'Doctors' tour in Japan?
Blitz has got to be the one missing if it is ligit.
I've allways wanted to go to Japan.
Pitty I'm broke at the moment.  :(
Kid

Tj 'Kid' Sundown    posted 7/10/04 12:19 AM    
 
I've just emailed Richard and Stoner to see if they know anything about the Doctors Of Madness reforming.
If they genuinely don't then I think it's just a case of 'japanease whispers.'
Tj


Come on Colin tell me it’s true please!!!!

Tj    


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Title: It's A Bloody Rumour!
Post by: Tj on July 11, 2004, 01:12:24 PM
Just got this email back from Richard. :arrow:

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News to me - But I wish them well!

Richard Strange


 :cry:  :(  :cry:  8)  :cry:  :(  :cry:
Title: Such Madness To Be Stoned In This Urban Dillema
Post by: Tj on July 11, 2004, 02:13:23 PM
Hi TUTS and The AfterGlow,

As I was getting a shave I thought about Richard's words and then the unthinkable came into my head. What if the three original members that are reforming the Doctors are Stoner, Pete and Blitz?  8O  8O  8O

That way Richard's message made sense.

Eeeeek!

I know Sweet, Mott and The Bay City Rollers did it, but the Doctors of Madness without Richard Strange????  8O  8O  8O

It’s possibly still just a rumour based around Richard's last Japanese tour with David Coulter. But saying that stranger things have happened at sea.

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Title: Is The Dream Over?
Post by: Tj on July 20, 2004, 02:42:41 PM
Just got this message from Stoner that answers the rumours about the reunion of the Century. :arrow:

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Hi The AfterGlow,
This is part of an email I have just this minute received from Stoner.
It's not good news I'm afraid.

"Hi Tim,
Well I’m sorry to say it’s news to me as well. Richard is the only Doctor I’m still in touch with, I haven’t seen Pete or Urban for many years, I’ve no idea where they are.
All the best"
Colin

Tj Saddown


 :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

This is how the rumours all began. we then had loads of emails flying about but only these few posts on the site. :arrow:

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Reformation  
Carl Fitch  posted 7/7/04 5:39 PM    
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I notice the Doctors of Madness are reforming for a short Japanese tour. Anyone yet heard of dates etc?  
Ron  posted 7/7/04 9:50 PM    
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WHHHAAAAAAAT??? or in American- Excuse me????  
Carl Fitch  posted 7/8/04 7:23 AM    
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Apparently all but one of the original members are to reform for about 8 dates around Japan and some of this stuff could be recorded.  
hugh  posted 7/8/04 7:51 AM    
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news to me... Richard???  
Kid Sundown  posted 7/9/04 1:15 PM    
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Hmm. If they did it anywhere it would be Japan.
Could it have been confused with Richard's last 'Doctors' tour in Japan?
Blitz has got to be the one missing if it is ligit.
I've allways wanted to go to Japan.
Pitty I'm broke at the moment.:o(
Kid  
Tj 'Kid' Sundown  posted 7/10/04 12:19 AM    
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I've just emailed Richard and Stoner to see if they know anything about the Doctors Of Madness reforming.
If they genuinely don't then I think it's just a case of 'japanease whispers.'
Tj  
Tj  posted 7/11/04 12:23 AM    
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Hi TAG's I've just got this email back from Richard:
"News to me - But I wish them well!"
Richard Strange
(_!_) ! Looks like someone has mixed this Japan tour up with the one Richard did with David Coulter a few months ago.
Oh well it was a great thought while it lasted.
Sob! Sob!
Back to arranging the special Yorkshire gig...
Tj Sad&down  
Tj Welldown  posted 7/11/04 12:26 AM    
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"I notice the Doctors of Madness are reforming for a short Japanese tour. Anyone yet heard of dates etc?
Apparently all but one of the original members are to reform for about 8 dates around Japan and some of this stuff could be recorded."
Carl Fitch
So Carl where exactly did you find these japanease whispers out and what exactly did it/they say?
Tj
 
Tj  posted 7/11/04 1:09 PM    
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Hi TAG's,
As I was getting a shave I thought about Richard's words and then the unthinkable came into my head. What if the three original members that are reforming the Doctors are Stoner, Pete and Blitz?
That way Richard's message made sense.
Eeeeek!
I know Sweet, Mott and The Bay City Rollers did it, but the Doctors of Madness without Richard Strange????
It’s possibly still just a rumour based around your last Japanese tour. But saying that stranger things have happened at sea.
Tj
 
Tj  posted 7/12/04 11:51 AM    
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Come on Carl and Stoner the suspence is killing me.
PPlllllllleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaasssssssssseeeeeeeeeee.
If it is true that Stoner, Pete and Blitz are getting together it's nice that Richard has given the reunion tour his blessing. :o)
WAITING!
Tj  
Tj  posted 7/16/04 7:47 AM    
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Still WAITING!
No reply to my two emails to Stoner and Carl Fitch has not told us where he got his information from.
Tj
PS: Good to hear that Mainline Steve and $ Dollar Dave, from The AfterGlow, went to see TV Smith with the Midnight Creeps as his backing band in London this week. Apparently it was awesome. I'm off to see them at the Morecambe WASTED Punk Festival on Sunday. :o)
 
Tj  posted 7/17/04 11:44 AM    
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COOL!
I know patience is supoosed to be a virtue but this is getting crazy.
Please can someone confirm or deny these rumours of a reformation? Or at least provide us with some more information and a source of that information so that we can check it out.
Still WAITING!
Tj  
Ron  posted 7/17/04 8:56 PM    
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As the replies are not forthcoming I think it is safe to assume that the information is, as suspected, reports of the Richard Strange/Coulter performances past, and anyway I wouldn't have thought it likely that Stoner, Dilemma and Blitz would follow in Richard's tracks through Japan. Shame, Mr. Fitch had us all going there for a moment......  
Tj  posted 7/19/04 1:41 PM    
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It's looking that way ron. :o(
I just wish Carl Fitch or Stoner would put us out of our misery.
For a second it looked like a dream come true.
I wonder if it was a wind up or just a missunderstanding based around Richard's recent Japanease tour.
Speaking of which. Does anyone know when that will be released?
Saw TV Smith and the Midnight Creeps headlining at The Wasted Punk Festival last night.
Truely awesome!!!
I bet Mainlines Steve and $Dollar Dave really enjoyed the London show too. :o)
Tj


 :P Pants!
Title: Don't Dream It's Over!
Post by: Tj on July 20, 2004, 02:44:40 PM
Hmm

So Richard and Colin are still in touch.

And Colin and TV played a gig together a few years ago.

And Richard and TV have played twice together in Southwick even more recently.

 :idea: Hmm I wonder?

Am I JUST EXPLORING MADNESS again?

Tj 'Kid' Sundown  
Title: question
Post by: Uli on July 21, 2004, 08:03:39 PM
TJ, just one question: if the Doctors Of Madness reunion would indeed be happening - would you fly to Japan to see them :?:
Title: Tj Takes Japan!
Post by: Tj on July 23, 2004, 09:28:26 AM
Well it's clearly not happening as a full reunion, so I am focusing on trying to get TV, Richard and Stoner together for my dream gig. :D

I can't afford any sort of trip abroad at the moment so no I wouldn't go. I've just missed one of the greatest Sparks gigs ever thanks to having no cash. :(

If it happened later I would really love to go. Japan is high on my must visit Countries list and the Doctors of Madness are my favourite Britsih band ever. :D

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Title: Vanian Heads Up The Reformed Doctors Of Madness Shock!"
Post by: Tj on July 30, 2004, 08:59:39 AM
Hi TUTS

This is the lastest on the Doctors Of madness reformation. apparently the lead singer is going to be Dave Vanain.

In Carl Fitch's dreams. :P

 8)

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posted 7/20/04 1:28 PM    
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Hi The AfterGlow,
This is part of an email I have just this minute received from Stoner.
It's not good news I'm afraid.
"Hi Tim,
Well I’m sorry to say it’s news to me as well. Richard is the only Doctor I’m still in touch with, I haven’t seen Pete or Urban for many years, I’ve no idea where they are.
All the best"
Colin
Of course it doesn't rule out my dream of a Richard Strange - Colin Stoner - TV Smith gig. Or am I Just Exploring Madness again?
Tj Saddown
 
Carl Fitch  posted 7/29/04 7:30 AM    
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Yes Urban Blitz Peter Di Lemma and Dave Vanian are to tour Japan with Dave handling vocals. There will only be 8 gigs but these are to be recorded and a DVD made. A fourth member will be guesting for these dates but not announced yet. This is now common knowledge in Japanese Music Press.  
Joern  posted 7/29/04 11:07 AM        
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Hi Carl,
which music papers -'Lolling Stone' or 'New Musical Expless'? From what I heard there are even some Korean sources spreading the news that there will be only 1 concert but 8 DVDs insteadt.
:-)
 
Tj  posted 7/29/04 5:06 PM    
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Carl Fitch posted 7/29/04 7:30 AM

"Yes Urban Blitz Peter Di Lemma and Dave Vanian are to tour Japan with Dave handling vocals. There will only be 8 gigs but these are to be recorded and a DVD made. A fourth member will be guesting for these dates but not announced yet. This is now common knowledge in Japanese Music Press."
First how the hell is Dave Vanian "an original member" and second sureley someone would think to ask Stoner and Kid Strange to a Doctors Of Madness reunion.
Thirdly again Strange and Stoner know nothing about it, so who could possibly be "the fourth member" attending as a guest.
This all sound like a bag of shite to me.
Please can you scan and send some of the press cuttings to Hugh at this site.
Tj Getting Bored Now  
Joern  posted 7/29/04 8:04 PM        
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Hi TJ,
the fourth member has to be Andy Fordrey. At least he claimed to be a member of the Dox in the past. (See link posted below)
Joern


http://www.texasflood.co.uk/gigs1.htm
 
hugh  posted 7/29/04 9:10 PM    
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ah yes, Andy Fordrey. I asked
Richard about this guy a couple of
years ago. 'Never heard of him' I think
was the reply.
Can't be any worse than the Doors
with Ian Astbury and that bloke from
the Police on drums I suppose. I
can't talk anyway, i have a ticket to
see the 'mc5' with, er, Evan Dando
on vocals...  
Ron  posted 7/29/04 11:04 PM    
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Me thinks perhaps Mr. Fitch may need a doctor of, or rather for, madness (a Psychiatrist) as there appears to be some delusional stuff going on here. I too am becoming pissed of at these hope building 'reports' which have no basis in reality. This stuff can only cause real fans to get angry. I Shall look forward to TJ sending me the scanned article. If the information is true my bare arse will be appearing in Woolworths' window, as they say!  
Tj  posted 7/30/04 7:54 AM    
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I'm not too happy about this either as this assumed red herring has diverted some of my attention away from setting up my own business.
If it's a joke I just don't get it.
Oh well it's a free world I suppose.
Life goes on.
Tj  
Title: Re: Tj Takes Japan!
Post by: Uli on July 30, 2004, 12:49:25 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
If it happened later I would really love to go. Japan is high on my must visit Countries list and the Doctors of Madness are my favourite Britsih band ever. :D

 8)


Yeah, I'm sure Japan is very interesting.

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This is the lastest on the Doctors Of madness reformation. apparently the lead singer is going to be Dave Vanain.


Uh, oh, I'm sure Dave Vanian would be surprised to hear such news!
For a good laugh I might mention this on the Damned message board.  :lol:

However, DV will play Japan soon, but with The Damned of course...
Title: DV & The Doctors
Post by: Tj on July 30, 2004, 07:25:40 PM
I've asked Jock to ask the Captain about it Uli. :wink:

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Title: Vanian a.o.
Post by: Uli on July 31, 2004, 12:29:45 PM
Good idea, really.
But I doubt it, as The Damned do a lot of touring themselves and are planning on a new album etc.
Not to say Vanian doesn't do any guest spots with other bands, I just got the DVD from the gig at the 100 Club where he joins the remaining members of MC 5 for three songs.  :D

Apparently Vanian was asked to join the Misfits around '95-'96, but he never did, the rumours were hard to kill though...  :roll:
Title: Don't Panic...
Post by: Tj on July 31, 2004, 03:40:39 PM
Yeah but the difference is that Dave Vanian was actually in the Doctors of Madness in 1979. He even sang lead vocals on their last single Don't Panic England (co-written by TV Smith).

That's what makes the story almost believable...

...Almost :roll:

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Title: Re: Don't Panic...
Post by: Uli on July 31, 2004, 04:53:24 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
Yeah but the difference is that Dave Vanian was actually in the Doctors of Madness in 1979. He even sang lead vocals on their last single Don't Panic England (co-written by TV Smith).

That's what makes the story almost believable...

...Almost :roll:

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Of course I know about that fact (and the song), but I still doubt he'd like to replace Kid Strange in the Doctors (when he joined in 1978 he replaced Urban Blitz, didn't he?)...
Title: In The Vanian - Out The Blitz
Post by: Tj on August 10, 2004, 05:26:53 PM
Replace might be a bit strong Uli as Urban Blitz was an awesome musicain, but yes he did join after Urban quit.

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Title: Doctor Feelgood Of Madness
Post by: Tj on August 10, 2004, 05:30:33 PM
Well TUTS it turns out the Doctors Of Madness reformation was all a scam.

Thanks for trying to help out Jock. :D

And what a totally naff joke to finish off the gag! :roll:  :P (see last comment on the qoute)

What a sad little man.

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Carl Fitch  posted 8/5/04 7:18 AM    
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People on here are so cynical, I guess its age or a sign of the times. The loser is the unbeliever.  
Ron  posted 8/5/04 9:20 PM    
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I'll be a believer when I see it Carl, the evidence that is. It will take more than belief to make something happen when two members of the band have already denied any knowledge of the project.  
Brian  posted 8/8/04 6:38 PM    
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I returned from London a week ago, where I met up with the Kid three times and spoke with Stoner once on the telephone. Sad to say that there was no evidence that any of this reformation talk has any truth in it at present.
That can be taken from the horses's mouth.  
Ron  posted 8/8/04 9:11 PM    
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Thanks for that information Brian. Confirmation indeed. If, however, the said people ever feel like a jamming session, for old times' sake, and you are the first to know, I hope that you will keep the fans posted so that we can attend...  
Carl Fitch  posted 8/10/04 7:33 AM    
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God, sorry folks I have made a complete pigs ear of this. It is Madness that are reforming, not this group. Wrong site! I was thinking of Dr Feelgood at the time. Hope I haven't caused too much of a problem.  
Hugh  posted 8/10/04 11:46 AM    
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surreal!  
Tj  posted 8/10/04 4:18 PM    
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Brian posted 8/8/04:
"I returned from London a week ago, where I met up with the Kid three times and spoke with Stoner once on the telephone. Sad to say that there was no evidence that any of this reformation talk has any truth in it at present.
That can be taken from the horses's mouth."
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Carl Fitch posted 8/10/04:
"God, sorry folks I have made a complete pigs ear of this. It is Madness that are reforming, not this group. Wrong site! I was thinking of Dr Feelgood at the time. Hope I haven't caused too much of a problem."
>
...Doctor Feelgood and Madness.
Oh how we laughed!
How very, very sad...  
Title: Great Explorers
Post by: Tj on September 22, 2004, 10:16:23 AM
Any news on TV and Stoner Frenz?

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Title: Just Exploring...
Post by: Tj on September 25, 2004, 10:37:14 PM
Thanks for the pm Frenz :cry:

Looks like I shall have to get a new first step in my music dream quest.

...To see TV, Stoner and Strange on stage in Just Exploring Madness.

The new first step affirmation is: I am watching TV and Stoner live in Frenz's pub in Bristol in 2005 and they are truely Great Explorers.

I am still patient TV and Frenz. :wink:

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Title: Re: In The Vanian - Out The Blitz
Post by: Uli on September 26, 2004, 12:29:06 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
Replace might be a bit strong Uli as Urban Blitz was an awesome musicain, but yes he did join after Urban quit.  8)


Yeah, he didn't really "replace" him as he didn't play Urban's instrument, but joined in as second vocalist.

So what did Frenz tell you in his pm?
Seems like there is a plan for a gig in his pub...
Title: Just Exploring Bristol
Post by: Tj on September 28, 2004, 10:43:44 AM
Not enough time to learn the songs. :cry:

It's a great goal for next year though. :D  :wink:

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Title: Alias Smith And Strange
Post by: Tj on October 03, 2004, 03:26:06 PM
I'm still exploring...

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Title: The Missionaries
Post by: Tj on October 04, 2004, 08:44:20 AM
"I'm feeling rather moved actually."

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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: $ Deal Dave on October 04, 2004, 05:35:48 PM
Thats a long shout from Australia or is it LA ?? :P  :twisted:  :P
Title: ?
Post by: Tj on October 04, 2004, 05:50:57 PM
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Thats a long shout from Australia or is it LA ??   :P  :twisted:  :P  


Lost me there $ Dave. :?

Richard's in San Francisco at the moment.

...but not on the 13th December.

Or did you mean that Stoner is in LA or Australia? Last time he emailed me I thought it was from the North part of the South West corner of England.

No I'm still confused. Serves me right I suppose as I'm always doing this to others. :oops:


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Title: The Lords Of The Dance
Post by: Tj on October 09, 2004, 04:02:22 PM
Cue for the dance...

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/newstuff/KIDSTR1_.JPG)

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Title: Dreams...
Post by: Tj on October 09, 2004, 08:45:51 PM
In strange magazines
That’s the place where dreams just fade away
Some forever lost
Others never see the light of day


See the light of day and follow the shining star...

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDCRU1.gif)

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Title: Back From The Dance Of Death
Post by: Tj on October 10, 2004, 10:10:57 AM
Switch ON the light

...And choose life instead.


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)

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Title: The Doctors Of Madness Related Top 12 Albums
Post by: Tj on November 04, 2004, 09:02:08 PM
Read this list of awesome albums. All the songs listed are simply superb.

No wonder Richard Strange is the world's second greatest songwriter.  :D

The Doctors Of Madness
Related Top 12 Albums


1. Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms [Doctors Of Madness 1st]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Billy watch Out
2. Mainlines
3. Waiting
4. The Afterglow

2. Sons Of Survival [Doctors Of Madness 3rd]
Stand Out Tracks
1. No Limits
2. Triple Vision
3. Network
4. Sons Of Survival

3. Last Words Of The Great Explorer [Stoner and TV Smith’s Explorers]
Stand Out Tracks
1. The Servant
2. The Easy Way
3. Perfect Life
4. Walk Away

4. Figments Of Emancipation [Doctors Of Madness 2nd]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Marie & Joe
2. Brothers  Suicide City

5. Mainline Resistance Is Low [Doctors Of Madness Live 1st]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Billy Watch Out
2. Marie & Joe
3. Mainlines
4. Brothers  Suicide City

6. All Banged Up [Richard Strange’s Happiness]
Stand Out Tracks
1. The Time Is Now
2. This Is War
3. You will Die
4. By The Wall

7. Raw Meat For The Missionaries [Kid Strange & TV Smith ’78 Demo’s]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Dance Of Death
2. Some Kind Of War

8. The Live Rise Of Richard Strange [Richard Strange and Tapes Live]
Stand Out Tracks
1. I Won’t Run Away
2. The Phenomenal Rise Of Richard Strange

9. The Phenomenal Rise Of Richard Strange [Richard Strange & Band]
Stand Out Tracks
1. I Won’t Run Away
2. The Phenomenal Rise Of Richard Strange

10. The Rest Is Silence [Richard Strange + The Engine Room]
1. Low Life
2. The Ghost Of Brian Jones
3. Waterlilies

11. Into The Strange [Doctors Of Madness Live 2nd and Last]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Marie & Joe
2. Mainlines (acoustic)
3. Mitzi’s Cure
4. Triple Vision

12. Going Gone [Richard Strange & The Engine Room]
Stand Out Tracks
1. Domino
2. Damascus
3. The Fall Of The House Of You

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Title: A Strange Bloody Xmas
Post by: Tj on November 05, 2004, 11:29:07 AM
You can tell by my last post that I never totally stopped believing that we could pull it off.

Phew! What a relief though.

Let's party TUTS.:D  :D  :D

See TV Live for details.

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Title: A Strange Bloody Xmas In The AfterGlow
Post by: Tj on November 08, 2004, 10:39:18 AM
This third (and final :oops: ) post is for the members of The AfterGlow who have been given a link to this theme through www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk  :arrow:

Welcome to the TUTS and The AfterGlow's special Xmas Party at The New Roscoe in Leeds on December 13th. Featuring The World's Greatest Singer-Songwriters; TV Smith and Richard Strange. Hear TV Smith's ironic and hilarious new single Xmas Bloody Xmas - a must for all Xmas stockings! Find out more about Richard's new material on 7Records and his successful World Tour as a member of The Black Rider cast. This is the first time the daring duo have played together North of The Watford Gap - miss it at your peril! It is guaranteed to be an absolute cracker!

(http://www.tvsmith.com/temp/tutsx-masgigflyer.jpg)

This is the initial posting from Richard where he confirmed taht he could now make the Xmas Party gig :arrow:

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Strange in Leeds December 13th
Richard Kid Strange posted 11/4/04 11:31 PM

Just to clear up a misunderstanding caused by my forthcoming trip to Japan (December 2-9) to play a selection of Doctors of Madness songs with my dear friend David Coulter and the admirable Japanese band Sioster Paul, I SHALL be back in England in time to play the December 13th gig in Leeds with my old comrade- in- arms TV Smith. I am looking forward to doing the show enormously, and I would like to thank TJ for his sterling work in organising the evening. While I am about it, I would like to thank everyone who managed to get along to my solo shows in San Francisco while I was there performing The Black Rider with Marianne Faithfull. The evenings we played at The Hemlock Tavern were among the most enjoyable gigs I have ever done. My very best wishes and heartfelt thanks to you all.

The Black Rider plays Sydney Festival from January 2-January 22 next year, and I would love to hear from any promoter who could let me put on my solo show during my visit to Australia. Emails to TheGreatStrange@aol.com will reach me immediately.
I am also happy to announce that an American record label, 7Records, will be releasing some new material of mine in the new year.
Finally my thanks to Hugh Gulland for keeping this site going, and for all of your support and encouragemnt.

Love ya. Richard

http://www.richardstrange.com


...and this was TV Smith's reaction to the news :arrow:

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Wunderbar!

TV Smith



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Title: Just Exploring...
Post by: Tj on November 08, 2004, 11:41:32 AM
4500 views. 8O

How cool is that?

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Title: cool
Post by: Uli on November 08, 2004, 12:57:17 PM
Wunderbar cool :!:  :wink:
Title: 5000 Posts
Post by: Tj on December 10, 2004, 12:55:00 PM
Just noticed. Today I am The Servant.  8)

Nice it happened on a day I'm going to see TV live. :D

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Title: Highlights From 10 Pages Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on December 10, 2004, 01:30:55 PM
(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)

TV Smith and Gaye Adverts were big fans of The Doctors Of Madness in 1976.

Dave Vanian was in The Damned and briefly in the Doctors Of Madness.

Richard Strange  (vocals) was in the Doctors Of Madness and very briefly in The Adverts.  He was also once offered lead vocals in The Damned, but turned them down.

Stoner  (bass) was in the Doctors Of Madness and played throughout the journey of TV Smith's Explorers  

Richard Strange  and TV Smith  wrote, played and sang several songs together and some of the demo's have been available as bootlegs.  I titled the Demo's Raw Meat For The Missionaries after one of the lines in the fantastic track Some Kind Of War.  

Richard Strange and TV Smith played together at the Doctors Of Madness last gig - now available as a Japanese CD ("You be Japan") on Captain Trip records under the title Into The Strange.  

TV Smith and Stoner were re-united a few years ago for a one off gig. I missed it.  

TV Smith and Richard Strange were re-united at Southwick last year. I caught it.   but, I forgit my camera  

TV Smith and Richard Strange are performing seperately  at the moment  at Southwick on June 1st 2002.  

My favourite ever artist is TV Smith  and my favourite ever band is the Doctors Of Madness.  

My favourite two albums ever are Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms  and March Of The Giants  

“Dear TJ,

sorry not to have got back to you sooner- been away a bit and otherwise preoccupied with the book. Now official release date May 9th.

Looking forward to Southwick. I would love to play with TV but not sure if it will happen. Hope so though.

I shall also be doing a gig at Hoxton Hall, London on 23rd June.at 8pm.

I am very impressed and flattered by the amount of Strange work you and Klaus have put in on the TV Smith website. Please keep up the good work.

Have you heard the Live Doctors album yet?”

Best wishes Richard

“The show really did come alive when TV Smith came on but I
think he only sang/played on the jointly written numbers: Making
Machines and Last Human Being and Who Cries For Me from
Phenomenal Rise.

The rest of the gig was just a 3 piece. I actually don't think
it went on for as long as RS intended though. I know they didn't
play Doctors of madness cos' RS nearly broke down when they were
about to start it/or when people shouted for it. It just seemed
to peter out.

I saw the Doctors one other time as a 3-piece (+ Dave Vanian).
they were much tighter than at the final gig and yes RS was the
only guitarist.

However, they were so much better as a chaotic 4-piece.”

Jeremy

“Well, for one thing I didn't know where the limits were as far as song writing went. I was writing stuff that was almost impossible for the band to play. I couldn't play it myself. So I was looking around, really, wondering how far I could push the band and how far I could push myself. At the same time we were having some personality problems in the band, we'd been cooped up together for too long, travelling together, living out of each others' pockets, and the cracks were starting to show. I started working with Richard because I got on with him and respected him as a writer and we found we could write and record demos and actually enjoy doing it without any pressure of expectation from either record company or audience.”

TV Smith

The Official Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart by Tj 'Kid' Sundown, Richard Strange, Stoner and The AfterGlow.

1. Mainlines Prologue/Mainlines
2. Marie & Joe
3. Brothers/Suicide City
4. Billy Watch Out
4. Waiting/Please Don’t Shoot The Pianist
6. Mitzi’s Cure/I Think Were Alone
7. Sons Of Survival
8. Kiss Goodbye Tomorrow
9. Triple Vision
9. Network
11. Out
12. B-Movie Bedtime
13. Afterglow
14. No Limits
15. Doctors Of Madness
15. In Camera (Huis Clos)
17. 50’s Kids
18. Bulletin
19. Cool
20. The Noises Of The Evening
21. Back From The Dead
22. Perfect Past
22. Waiting For My Man
24. Into The Strange
24. Don’t Panic England
24. What Goes On?

Don't Panic England is another TV Smith and Richard Strange song. This one was sung by Dave Vanian and it almost was the Doctors last ever single...

Tj

“Returning home, the Adverts signed the worldwide deal they had been hankering after, pledging themselves to RCA - who immediately sacked the person responsible, and sent the band into the studio to see what they could come up with. They responded with one of their strongest singles yet, and their first in ten months, "Television's Over." It was produced, to the astonishment of everyone who read the credits, by Tom Newman, of Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells shaped fame, and backed by "Back From The Dead," the earliest of a clutch of songs cowritten by T.V. and Richard Strange, of the Doctors Of Madness.
"Tim first introduced himself as a fan, he and gaye used to come and see the Doctors every time we played in the West Country," Strange remembers. "We got to know each other, and when they moved up to London with the Adverts, I used to go along, socially at first, then I started to really enjoy Tim's writing, and from there we got into writing together."
Strange was even more effusive in the press. "T.V. is the only New Wave songwriter who can string together two sentences and still remember what the first one was... apart from me, of course," proclaimed the man who considered only Bob Dylan and John Lennon could rival him in the "Greatest Writer Of The Twentieth Century" stakes.
Around fifteen songs were born of this union, but only "Back From The Dead" ever made it onto vinyl, first on the Doctors' own third album, Sons Of Survival (Polydor 2383 472), and now on the Adverts' b-side.
However, two others, "Making Machines" and "Last Human Being In The World" received an airing when T.V. came on stage during the last ever Doctors gig, at the Music Machine on October 26, 1978, while the Doctors also recorded the duo's "Don't Panic England," for a projected final single. Featuring the Damned's Dave Vanian on vocals, the release would eventually be shelved, and has never seen the light of day even on bootleg.
"It was," says bassist Stoner, "horrible." “

Dave Thompson Bored Teenager for Goldmine

“The story of the Doctors of Madness is told at their official website which is kept by Hugh . As a bonus he even keeps an active messageboard . Amongst the regular posters you will find TJ Sundown who must be considered as the greatest living combined TV Smith and Richard Strange fan-base ever, Brian Harding - a very fine and friendly gentleman, who never was a roadie for the Doctors , but at least got stuck on Danish girls and a certain 'Richard' will sporadically post exciting news. On the board he announced the imminent release of a new Doctors of Madness live album on the Japanese label Captain Trip and you get regular updates for his somewhat hectic schedules. Recently he indicated that there will be new 'Happiness' recordings available and there might be the chance that a new 'Doctors' live CD with the help of Japanese band 'Sister Paul' might see the light of the day.”

Joern

“On the way out I bumped into Joe Elliott again. He spotted my my t-shirt, a Rocket Ron creation, that I save for late night's like this. As soon as he saw it he dived at me and grabbed hold of it with his eyees bulging out of his head and a massive grin, shouting "I want three, I want three."
I asked him if he knew where a certain TAG called Smogmorton was. "Wait here, I'll go get him, wait 'till he sees that shirt."

Tj

“I got together with TV Smith who had been through a similarly wrethched run, and we started writing a lot of songs together. We didn't know what we were going to do with them, but TV used to come round to our flat in Streatham and we would write a song every day. Some good, some lousy, but we had a good working relationship; we were on the same wavelength and could work together without getting on each other's nerves.

Despite the enthusiastic reception they got from both TV's mnager, Michael Demsey, and from my manager Bryan Morrison, nothing ever happened to any of those songs we wrote.”

Richard Strange

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Title: Front Page Fame At Last For The Legends!
Post by: Tj on December 11, 2004, 12:55:41 PM
TV & Kid: The Legends of the Punk Revolution 8)  :arrow:

(http://www.tvsmith.com/temp/2004_10_13_preview_cover.jpg)

The Worlds Greatest Singer-Songwrters. The papers never lie. 8)  :arrow:

(http://www.tvsmith.com/temp/2004_10_13_preview.jpg)

Cool.  8)
Title: The First Ever TV & Kid Gig: The Last Ever Doctors Gig
Post by: Tj on December 11, 2004, 06:20:00 PM
“The Doctors Of Madness played their final show at the Music Machine in Camden Town on 26 October 1978. We intended to play a very long set, taking in most of our favourite songs from the three albums plus a few others besides. The set kicked off with a howling agonized maelstrom of feedback, the rhythm slowly insinuating itself and then asserting itself until it was an insistent lobotomized jackhammer. For a three-piece we made a most terrifying racket that night.

TV Smith joined us onstage for two songs that he and I had co-written, Making Machines and The Last Human Being In The World, plus a song called Who Cries For Me? that I had recently finished.

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)

I remember we also did a killer version of Lou Reed’s Velvet Underground classic , What Goes On?, which we had first tried out in Berlin.

We were so strung out on speed and booze that it felt like the people in the cavernous arena had just come to pay their respects to a corpse. Many of the critics reviewing that show took the opportunity to give the corpse a good kicking just to make sure it was dead.

The three and a half years had been a bumpy ride, full of excitement and disappointments and unfulfilled dreams. We had got tantalizingly close, we had been to the top of the candy mountain and seen the land of milk and honey, but we had been denied entry. We had somehow gone from being “ahead of our time” to being passé, without ever spending a single night between the crisp, clean white linen sheets of being “now”.

From dynamos to dinosaurs.”

Richard Strange    

Why thank you Richard. :D Taken from Richard's superb memoirs; STRANGE Punks and drunks and flicks and kicks.

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Title: Enjoying The TV
Post by: Tj on December 20, 2004, 06:28:50 AM
Lots going on on The AfterGlow forum at www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk at the moment. :D  :D  :D

This is a reply on the first Kid & TV gig (see above). :arrow:  

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Jeremy  posted 12/15/04 3:15 PM    

Yes - very true.

My memories of the night are blurred to say the least. We had gone early to ensure we got tickets and were probably fuelled by the same mixture of speed and booze. I do remember What Going On being superb (as it is on the live recording). I remember enjoying the TV Smith songs. I also remember two of my friends (who had introduced me to the Doctors some 2 or 3 years earlier) leaving early because they thought it was "crap". I got home at 2:00am and was depressed all through the next day.  


Thanks Jeremy. :D

Still wish I'd been their.

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Title: This Is War
Post by: Tj on December 20, 2004, 06:46:58 AM
Fantastic news. :D

A new proper Strange album at last.

hope it's got some brand new songs on it. :D

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New album - This is war  
Julian  posted 12/17/04 7:08 PM        
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Hi there TAGS,
I found this website a while back, obviously a serious Strange fan. Someone called Joern?
http://strange.qxite.de/index.php
It mentions a new album on 7 records coming Next April. Titled, "This is War" which is a track on the Happiness album. Any more info. on this anybody?
Is it more than a US release of "All Banged Up"?
Hmmm.......Richard,Hugh,Brian,TJ, anyone. What's the word?  
Joern  posted 12/17/04 9:52 PM        
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Hi Julian,
glad you found your way to that small site.
Richard announced new recordings via this board recently (click link below). 7 Records have only given little information about the new album on their website and have changed the relase date from February to April last week. But since Richard seems to be in fine form it will be definitely worth the wait.
Joern

http://amazingforums.com/forum1/DOM/197.html
 
Tj Kid Sundown  posted 12/20/04 0:03 AM    
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I was so high as a kite on Monday that I never got chance to ask Richard about the new 7 records album.
I'm really pleased it's not called All Banged Up - I hated that title. This Is War sounds perfect to me.
I suggest you all check out Joerns site.
...Although he gave me a reputation that as taken a lot of hard graft to live up to. ;o)
...But I've just about got thier in the end.
Tj  
Title: This Is War: Richard Strange Live In 2005
Post by: Tj on December 20, 2004, 06:55:35 AM
Can't wait to see Richard again in 2005.

His closing comments below bring great hope.

He was so simply superb at the Roscoe that I can't wait to see him live again. :D  :D  :D

And he'll soon have a new 7 Records to promote...

...With not a Hawkwind fan in sight. ;o)

WAITING...

Tj

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"To all those who made the Journey along to the New Roscoe in Leeds last night for my show with TV Smith, I would like to extend my warmest thanks and best wishes. The evening was a truly memorable one,- with a great atmosphere and a womderful feeling of mutuality and common purpose. It was a delight for me to meet so many of you again after so long, and to get onstage with Tim and do as few songs was the icing on a very substantial and delicious cake. I am now back in London, but the memory of that evening will warm me through even the coldest winter. My heartfelt thanks to the great TJ for making the dream a reality. It was a great project TJ, and maximum respect to you for pushing it through.

Have a great Christmas everyone, and let's do it again in the New Year"

Richard xx
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on December 20, 2004, 06:59:25 PM
TJ,

Really enjoyed Richard Strange at the Roscoe, and I've just read his memoirs which were also very enjoyable, so a belated thanks for organising the gig!

Alan
Title: Strange Converts
Post by: Tj on December 21, 2004, 07:10:06 PM
Wow! You read his book Alan. I'm impressed.

About time I started wining round sonew TUTS to The AfterGlow, most of the traffic has been converting Strange fans to TV.:D

I wonder how long it will take me to win round C5.  :wink:


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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Josh on December 21, 2004, 10:07:35 PM
I enjoyed his book extracts very much at the gig, very humourous and even reading over them again now I laugh, maybe will get the book some time, just need to get round to reading the other boooks Im meant to be reading, then again a grippy auto/biography I usually read very quickly.
Title: Thanks For the Memoirs
Post by: Tj on December 23, 2004, 07:22:12 PM
It's one of the top 3 books I have ever read.

I loved every line of it. 8)

...But I would wouldn't I.  :wink:

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Title: Of Dreams And Goals
Post by: Tj on December 31, 2004, 05:18:59 PM
And on to 2005.

...As anyone seen a stray Stoner lying around. :wink:

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Title: The Human Torch Burns Bright
Post by: Tj on March 08, 2005, 07:06:07 PM
Fans of all things TV&KID should check out www.richardstrange.com :arrow: NEWS :arrow: NEWSLETTER for the latest on Richard, including a humerous photo of TV&KID live in Leeds and the following wise words.

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On returning to the UK I did a one off evening with my old friend TV Smith (http://www.tvsmith.com/) (late of The Adverts) in Leeds, where we played songs both separately and together. It was a great evening, and to all of you who helped make it possible, and who travelled so far on a filthy night, THANK YOU!!! TV has always been a great song writer, and his performances are full of the most amazing zeal, commitment and integrity. He is an example to us all to keep the torch burning bright.

The Black Rider played 20 shows as part of the Sydney Festival in January 2005, and I enjoyed the time I spent there. January in Australia sure beats January in South London! David stayed on to do the Hal Wilner Leonard Cohen tribute shows at the Sydney Opera House, with the likes of Nick Cave, Jarvis Cocker and Beth Orton singing CohenÕs great songs. By all accounts the concerts were monumental.


In 2005, a new CD will be released in the USA on 7 Records (http://www.7recordsmusic.com/News2/index.php). Entitled This Is War! The CD will feature a dozen songs written and recorded over the past couple of years. Some appeared on the Happiness album, All Banged Up!, some didn't. I hope you will enjoy it.


There is talk that The Black Rider will go to Los Angeles in 2006, but that all seems a long way off. I am about to start work on a novel, some new songs and possibly a new film.


I promise to keep this site updated in future!


Thank you all for your emails, letters and messages of support. Who knows, I will maybe even do a few gigs in the Spring/Summer...!

Richard Strange


Nice one Richard. See you soon. YOU BET! :D :D :D

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Title: Hunter On Strange
Post by: Tj on May 18, 2005, 01:01:21 PM
If you are having some time off the Doctors site whilst we sort out our fun spoiling 'friend' here's another place to post about TV and the Doctors Of Madness, Andy. :D

Lets hear Hunter on Strange...

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30 years ago I attended the first gig I can ever remember seeing (of course I was only 5 at the time  ) It was Ian Hunter and Mick Ronson at Leeds Town Hall. An awesome night. I still have my tacket and NME advert.

30 years later I; saw Ian live, once again at the Irish Centre (making his annual visit), bought a CD, new DVD and 30 years solo sweatshirt and then my most excellent m8 Spogmorten...

...took me backstage and I met Ian Hunter for the first time.    

Tj: "Hi Ian I saw you at my first ever teenage gig in 1975 at Leeds Town Hall."
Ian: "That;s what I like - loyalty."

I get my ticket and CD signed.

Tj: "Mind if we have are photo taken?"
Ian gives me a massive hug and Spogmorten takes a snap. The hug lasts for ages.

John Keenan (Leeds Live Musical Event Manager): "You know Richard Strange of the Doctors Of Madness Ian?"
Ian: "No, I've heard of Steve Strange."
TJ: "Steve Strange named himself after Richard. The Doctors were around in the mid 70's, Joe Elliott's a big fan."

He might not know Richard Strange, but what a great guy.

And what a set. Some old, some rare, some rocking, some blue, some new.

Ladies and Gentleman...

A LEGEND.
Title: The United Trinity
Post by: Tj on October 15, 2005, 04:38:20 PM
Well I've been a good boy it 2005 and not arranged any gigs...

Now what can I work on in 2006?

 :idea: The man of Stone, the Titanium man and the man of Wise Words.

 :wink:  8)
Title: Stoner The Great Explorer
Post by: Tj on December 31, 2005, 06:44:03 PM
Here'sa real interesting link about what ever happened to Stoner...

http://www.getsmf.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=50&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0&mforum=tag

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Title: TV&KID&STONER Live
Post by: Tj on January 15, 2006, 04:27:08 PM
Just been sorting out all my paper e-mails and downloads and fond an e-mail from Richard Strange saying that he would love to perform a live gig with TV and Stoner...

I couldn't believe I'd forgotten about this, but it was my first ever response from Richard.

...I'm back Just Exploring Madness again. :D

 8)
Title: Strange on TV
Post by: GJ on January 16, 2006, 01:44:13 PM
Did you see Richard on tv a few weeks ago TJ? He was in the last Linda la Plante play playing some pervert's solicitor. I forgot to mention it when I saw you in Hull.
Title: KID On TV
Post by: Tj on January 17, 2006, 02:16:34 PM
Yeah caught it GJ.

Richard makes a great perverts Solicitor. :wink:

 8)
Title: Stoner?
Post by: Fred21 on January 17, 2006, 02:47:39 PM
What?!?!?!?!

I'm even more confused after reading that link to the Doctors website!

So what is he up to? Does anybody know?
Title: Roll Away The Stoner
Post by: Tj on January 18, 2006, 08:17:44 PM
Err no, but TV did play with him in the late 90's so watch this space Fred.

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Title: The Great Strange Is Back
Post by: Tj on February 23, 2006, 07:59:56 PM
Richard's back and palying in London this Sunday night.

...And I very nearly went on a training course in London this week-end. If only I'd known.

Can you magine it. Sparks last week. Richard on Sunday and TV on Monday. Talk about the live holey trinity!!!!

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Hi to you all, and a belated Happy New Year, Guantanamo, dying birds and Dansih cartoonists notwithstanding (the world get ever more like a Doctors of Madness song!)

I just wanted to get you all up to date with what is happening in my life

Firstly I am totally revovered from the accident last year in Cambodia- many thanks for your good wishes.


I will be doing a gig at the Borderline, Manette Street, London this coming Sunday at 8 pm. My friends David Coulter and Sandy Dillon are alsoi on the bill. It would be great if some of you could get along to say hi.

The Tom Waits/William Burroughs/Robert Wilson collaboration The Black Rider , which took me to London, San Francisco and Sydney in 2004/5, heads for LA in April for 10 weeks. We will be performing at the Ahmanson Theatre, Los Angeles. I am hoping to do some solo shows while I am out there. I have already spoken to The Troubadour and The Viper Room and am trying to arrange things there. If any Los Angelinos can suggest suitable venues I might approach, that info would be much appreciated.

Here is a link to a link to Richard Strange's MySpace site:
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=54724352


Hope this finds you all in good heart. I am deeply touched by the affection and friendship that comes from this site. I wish you all a great 2006

Best wishes

Richard
Title: Re: The Great Strange Is Back
Post by: Klaus on February 24, 2006, 10:00:04 AM
Quote from: "Tj"
Can you magine it. Sparks last week. Richard on Sunday and TV on Monday. Talk about the live holey trinity!!!!


Blasphemy! 8O
Title: borderline
Post by: Uli on February 24, 2006, 01:46:50 PM
Yeah, we don't want to tap on any religious feet here, delete that whole thread.  :wink:

Anyway, I was at the Borderline in 2002, when ex-Buffalo Tom singer Bill Janovitz played there. Quite a good club/half pub for such an acoustic gig.  :)
Title: TV Top three
Post by: Tj on February 27, 2006, 11:15:30 AM
Blasphemy?

I mentioned TV as part of the holey trinity and that's blasphemy?

Who to?

GAWD!

 :wink:

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Title: EVER HAD A DAY WHEN YOU GET A GIFT FROM HEAVEN?
Post by: Tj on March 14, 2006, 05:37:35 PM
:D  :D  :D

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www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk
Title: EVER HAD A DAY WHEN YOU GET A GIFT FROM HEAVEN?
Post by: Tj on March 14, 2006, 05:39:22 PM
:D  :D  :D

http://www.getsmf.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?p=624&mforum=tag#624

 :D  :D  :D
Title: When Was The Ideal Time Period To Exist In Musically?
Post by: Tj on April 22, 2006, 01:51:33 PM
This interesing theme is from the Doctors Of Madness forum, I thought it real interesting so I copy it over.

Enjoy...

Footnote: Brian is Richard 'Kid' Strange's brother, who was lead singer, guitarist and songwriter for The Doctors. The band were formed in 1975 and closed with a live farewell gig in London in October 1978. That final set featured a certain T.V. Smith performing guitar and vocals on three songs.

Tj

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What I find STRANGE is that many of the Punk bands are supposed to have been great Doctors fans or at least have seen gigs and were taken, but that Richard is so very rarely quoted or asked for an opinion when the books are written. He is without doubt the most articulate of the lot, but he is rarely , if ever given any credit at all.

Brian

 
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That really pisses me off too, Brian.

TV often get's the same treatment (e.g. The new Don Letts Punk Attitude DVD), but fortunately not this time round.  

What makes it even worse is that altough the Doctors have had two name checks so far from Pauline of Penetration and Gay Advert, John Robb hasn't written a footnote explaining who they are and what they did like most other bands in the book.

Tj Sundown


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Seems I'm going to have to get this book. As to Brian's comment as to why Richard's opinions are never co-opted by these authors; I feel it's simply the case that because few people (except the enlightened afterglow) grasped the concept, and dismissed the band because they were viewed as either too challenging, or worse, as some kind of joke (I had a friend who was bemused by them!) they were never destined to be viewed as the major 'proto-punk' force which they undoubtedly were. And sorry Doctors, but you gave up the ghost a fraction too soon. I observed the evolution: the visuals changed in keeping with the movement- foppy blue hair became short and spikey and the glam-like frankenstein makeup dissapeared whilst Urban Blitz looked cool throughout, and the final album was right on the pace. It was not like you had suddenly become obsolete, rather that you got up to speed embracing the movement as your own, and you were certainly not 'blown away' by the pistols. I hope you are reading this Mr. Blitz!

Rocket Ron


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It's clear from the words of many of the people who were at the Middlesborough gig that the Doctors were blown away by the Pistols. Pauline Marray was a big Pistols fan and she saw this too as did our very own Kid on the block. From what I've read some fans still stayed loyal to the Doctors even at that gig....

...I did not stay loyal to The Doctors Of Madness.  

If you read my diary of 1977 and early 1978 it was all Punk, Punk, Punk and more Punk.

Where I do agree with Rocket Ron is that the Doctors Of Madness should have stuck with their superb image and out lasted Punk and linked in with the likes of Joy Division (who according to Anne Nighingale on GWT were heavily influenced by the Doctors).

It's funny as I, like Ron, had been wondering if they should have either been born earlier (with Ziggy Stardust or the Velvet Underground) or later (with Joy Division or even Bauhaus). I decided that what really mattered was how fantastic they were and maybe they wouldn't have been that amazing if they had been born at another time.

Tj Sundown


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So Why 260 Posts on The Doctors Of Madness Then You Ask?    
 
...Because after they split my interest in them came back and then as I went off many of my old favourite bands, my interest and obsession with the Doctors of Madness sound never waned. Not for 30 years and I have favourite band charts to prove it. That feeling is now as strong as ever. That's why I ran the top ten Doctors song chart and then set up this informal fan club called the AfterGlow (after jumping on the back off Hugh's hard work to do it). It is why I want to keep arranging special gigs for THE GREAT STRANGE.

...The answer to all these questions about; what time period would have been best for them, and should they have split when they did, is that The Doctors of Madness are timeless.

The band that transcended time.  

Mover over Doctor Who - The new Time Lords are here! :twisted:

Tj Sundown
 
Title: doctors
Post by: Uli on April 23, 2006, 11:16:12 AM
An interesting read, thanks TJ.
Yeah, the Doctors may only be a "footnote" in the history of Rock, Punk or whatever, but they influenced many good musicians and there's still fans around (as that board proves). Maybe they came in at the wrong time and did not achieve mass success, but I guess they're not alone in that (many "avant-garde" bands share this fate)...

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and I have favourite band charts to prove it.


No doubt about that :!:   :lol:
Title: Tj Charthead
Post by: Tj on April 23, 2006, 09:38:28 PM
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

In fact today I finally updated by best artist/band of the 21st Century chart...

This is a list chart that no-one has seen but me today. :D

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Title: We'll All Be The Doctors Of Madness
Post by: Tj on April 27, 2006, 05:45:10 AM
Doctors Of Madness mad at the moment. I've got old NME advert posters all over my office, What a band!

Playing Mainline Resistance Is Low (Live at Oundle 14.11.76), Into The Strange (Last gig live at Music Machine 26.10.7, Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms (back on top as my favourite album of all time), Figments Of Emancipation and Sons Of Survival CD's by the Worlds Greatest band; The Doctors Of Madness...

"I'm feeling rather moved actually."

...Sadly the The AfterGlow Forum is down at the moment. :cry:

And, of course, I'm also playing The Last Words Of The Great Explorer by The Explorers. :D

 8)
Title: Perfect Past: Doctors Of Madness Tour Dates 1975 – 1978
Post by: Tj on April 29, 2006, 02:58:04 PM
To celebrate being made part of the team runing the Doctors of Madness Forum I made this rael special post...

Doctors Of Madness Tour Dates 1975 – 1978


The Original 6 Doctors Of Madness - “You Will Be Filmed!”

20.12.74   Hampstead             Town Hall


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/HTH.jpg)


The Famous 4 Doctors Of Madness - Cabbage Patch Weekly Residency

13.06.75   Twickenham, London       Cabbage Patch


??.20.75   ?               St Albans


The Best Of British Rock Show

31.12.75   West London         Olympia


BeBop Deluxe Sunburst Finish Tour

??.02.76   Leeds             University
14.02.76   Manchester             Free Trade Hall   

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/Doctorsposter3.jpg)   


March Madness Tour (To publicise Late Night Movies release)

??.03.76   Leeds               Fforde Grene

24.03.76   Brunel            University
26.03.76   Newcastle             Polytechnic
27.03.76   St Albans            City Hall
28.03.76   Bath               Pavilion
29.03.76   Plymouth            Fiesta
30.03.76   London            Marquee


THAT Sex Pistols Gig

21.05.76   Middlesborough         Town Hall Crypt

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/doctorsposter1.jpg)


Mid Summer Madness Tour

13.07.76   London            Marquee
14.07.76   Scarborough         Penthouse
15.07.76   Cleethorpes            Winter Gardens
16.07.76   Newcastle            Mayfair
17.07.76   Folkstone            L Hall
19.07.76   Doncaster             Outlook
22.07.76   Penzance            Winter Gardens
23.07.76   Paignton            Penelopes
26.07.76   Plymouth            Wood Club
27.07.76   Brighton            Top Rank
29.07.76   Hull               Samanthas
31.07.76   St Albans            City Hall
01.08.76   Redcar            The Coatham Bow


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/midsmmer.jpg)


End Of The World Tour (To publicise Figments Of Emancipation release)

Mainline Resistance Is Low Live CD *

23.10.76   Birmingham            Barbarellas
28.10.76   Manchester            The Electric Circus
29.10.76   Aberyswyth            University
30.10.76   Scunthorpe            Priory Hotel
03.11.76   Bath               University
04.11.76   Cromer            West Runton Pavillion
05.11.76   Blackpool            Imperial Hotel
06.11.76   London
07.11.76   Sheffield            Top Rank
08.11.76   Doncaster            Outlook Club   
09.11.76   Barnsley            Civic Hall
11.11.76   Birkenhead            Mr Digbys
12.11.76   Scarborough         Penthouse
13.11.76   Nothampton            Cricket Club
14.11.76    Oundle, Peterborough                      Oundle School *
15.11.76   Chester            Quaintways
16.11.76   Brighton            Kingsweet
18.11.76   Dunstable            Queensway Hall
19.11.76   Bishops Stortford         Hockerill College
20.11.76   Croydon            College Of Technology
23.11.76   Cardiff
24.11.76   Plymouth            Wood
26.11.76   Gulidford            Surrey University
27.11.76   Reading            Bulmershe College
28.11.76   London            Shaftesbury Theatre

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/ENDOFT_adj.gif)


Route 77 Tour with Pat Travers   

16.02.77   Salisbury            City Hall
17.02.77   Middleton            Civic
18.02.77   Bridlington            Spa Royal Hall
19.02.77   Leicester            Polytechnic
20.02.77   Redcar            The Coatham Bow
21.02.77   Stafford            The Top Of The World
23.02.77   Tunbridge Wells         Assembly Rooms
24.02.77   Leeds    (Cancelled - No Travers) Polytechnic
25.02.77   Newcastle            Polytechnic
26.02.77   Loughborough         University
27.02.77   Canterbury            Kent University
01.03.77   Penzance            The Gardens
02.03.77   Plymouth            The Fiesta
03.03.77   Eastbourne            Winter Gardens
04.03.77   Bath                University
05.03.77   Reading             University
07.03.77   St Albans            City Hall
08.03.77   London (Doctors only)      The Marquee
09.03.77   Keele               University
10.03.77   Glamorgan            Polytechnic
11.03.77   Retford            The Porterhouse
12.03.77   Northampton         Cricket Club
13.03.77   Sheffield            Top Rank
14.03.77   Doncaster            Outlook
15.03.77   Cleethorpes            Winter Gardens
17.03.77   Bournemouth         Town Hall
18.03.77   Cromer            The West Runton Pavilion

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/soundsroute77.jpg)


??.??.77   Paris's             Bataclan club


??.??.77/8?            100 Club


Sons Of Survival Tour (Exit Blitz Enter Dr. Vanian)

14.04.78   Scarborough         Penthouse
15.04.78   Bishop Stortford         Triad Centre
16.04.78   London             Marquee
17.04.78   Doncaster            Outlook
18.04.78   Leeds               Leeds Football Club
19.04.78   Birmingham            Barbarellas
20.04.78   Middlesborough         Rock Garden
21.04.78   York               ?
22.04.78   Nottingham            ?
28.04.78   Liverpool            Erics
30.04.78   Sheffield             Top Rank

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/Nosebleed.jpg)


21.09.??   UJZ Glocksee         Vorverkauf

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/Glocksee.jpg)


24.05.78   Kant Kino             Berlin    

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/Doxkarte12.jpg)


24.05.78   Berlin             Kant Kino    

Into The Strange “The Last Ever Concert By The Doctors Of Madness”   


26.10.78   London          Music Machine


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/doctorsinto__.jpg)

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)
Title: Who Where The Original 6 Members Of The Doctors Of Madness?
Post by: Tj on April 29, 2006, 03:00:29 PM
Nice to see Tv give an appearance at the end. :D

I followed it up with this one (we always thought that there were only four members of the Doctors Of Madness hwen they started out...

This is the gig poster that really interests me...

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/HTH.jpg)

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"Advert for an early Doctors show, courtesy of a mysterious
site visitor going under the name of 'Urban Blitz'!"

Hugh Gulland


It's from Friday, 20th December, which as I've found out from the internet was in 1974. It must have been one of their earliest gigs.

Do you notice that their are six members of the Doctors of Madness?

Very interesting?

Let's look to what Pete Di Lemma say's about Hamptead Hall...
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Oh! We done some gigs, I think Colin (Browne) was with us then, we got this guy playing a synthesiser, and I can’t quite recollect his name, but he had this synthesizer, and he had a theramin as well, and there is a tape somewhere of this gig at Hampstead Town Hall…

Pete Di Lemma


Is this the same Hamstead Town Hall gig as the poster?

The poster also states that the audience at the gig "Will all be filmed." It also says "We'll all be the Doctors Of Madness."

...Holy de-condition Batman!

Can anyone shed any light on these mysteries?

...And does this in fact confirm that Colin Browne from Barclay James Harvest was indeed an early member of the Doctors Of Madness?

...Maybe this poster was really sent in by Urban Blitz? It is clearly very, very rare.

Don't you just love a good mystery?

...Hmm I just spied drumsticks on a clown that looks like Pete and one clown has a violin. :D

I think this may well be from THE Urban Blitz.

So who is the guy with the beard?

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Title: STRANGE And The Dox Colin Mystery
Post by: Tj on May 05, 2006, 07:14:47 AM
The original 6 Dox mystery continues...

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Colin Stoner is above Kid's head. I do not recognize the other two, but I am sure neither is me !!! The poster was drawn by Rene , Kid's longstanding partner at the time. I recognize the art work.

PS: I am in Lonodn for a long weekend and Mum's 88th birthday!! I will be seeing Rene tomorrow and will try to remember to ask her what she can remember about it.

Brian (Brother of Kid Strange)

 
Thanks Brian. Please tell Rene that Late Night Movies is my favourite album cover as well as being my favourite album. :D

As to the mystery. Maybe the clue is in the interview that you and Hugh did with Pete...

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Oh! We done some gigs, I think Colin (Browne) was with us then, we got this guy playing a synthesiser, and I can’t quite recollect his name, but he had this synthesizer, and he had a theramin as well, and there is a tape somewhere of this gig at Hampstead Town Hall…

Pete Di Lemma


...And this quote from the post about the Barclay James Harvest site...

Copied from the Barclay James Harvest site which also has a few photos of Colin.

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Colin Browne
 
Born in June 1952 in South London to a mother who played piano and sang at parties in an extraordinary operatic voice, Colin Browne performed his first paid gig at the age of 14 with a band called Our Blue Haze, a psychedelic blues band. At 17 years old he was playing with Andy Summers (later of The Police) in Toerag, who were regulars at The Bridge in Wandsworth in the early seventies.

In 1975 he joined Kid Strange in proto-punk band the Doctors Of Madness, playing bass under the pseudonym "Stoner", and contributing to the band's bizarre theatrical image by appearing on stage made up as Frankenstein.

The Doctors imploded in October 1978, and following brief spells with The Adverts and TV Smith's Explorers, Colin made his first live appearance with Barclay James Harvest in January 1980. He first appeared as guest musician on Turn Of The Tide (1981), then had to wait until 1997's River Of Dreams for his next credit on a BJH studio album, but was a regular guest on all Barclay James Harvest tours from 1980 to 1997. Colin didn't appear on 2002's Revolution Days album, but joined Barclay James Harvest Featuring Les Holroyd for their 2002 and 2003 tours of Continental Europe.

He has also found time in between BJH engagements to work with Kate Bush, the Climax Blues Band and Ruby Turner. He lives in Market Drayton, where he runs the Ad Lib recording and rehearsal studio, and plays regular local gigs.


The bit in red is clearly a mix up with Colin STONER, but I suspect the rest is true. One of the interesting things is that in STRANGE, Richard implies that the Doctors Of madness were the original four of Kid, Pete, Stoner and Blitz.

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/HTH.jpg)

So my guess from left to right is...

Colin Browne (although the mystery two could be the other way round), Pete Di Lemma (with drumsticks), Urban Blitz (with violin), Stoner and the mysterious synthesizer and theramin player (mentoned by Pete).

Interestingly in the 'Stratford Music College' that played the awesome Kid Strange gig in 2001 in Starford-Upon-Avon was a theramin player. It was played to great effect live on Waiting. What an amazing night that was...  8)  

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Back in October '01, Richard performed live in Stratford-Upon- Avon, backed by 2nd year students from the popular music course at Stratford Upon Avon Colleg. The show was directed by ex-Pogue, ex-Test Department multi-instrumentalist David Coulter. Much to my disgrace, I couldn't make it, but I've had a sneaky look at a tape of the show and RS was in fine form. I gather a reworking of 'Waiting' was recorded with the musicians featured at the show, not sure when this'll see the light of day...

Hugh Gulland Dox News Bulletin


I just love a good mystery. :D

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Title: More On The Two Dox Colin Mystery...
Post by: Tj on May 05, 2006, 07:39:04 AM
Just found this post by Brian and photo's courtesy of 'our' $ Deal Dave and his gang...

(http://www.bjharvest.co.uk/jpg/browne2.jpg)

(http://www.bjharvest.co.uk/jpg/browne1.jpg)

(http://www.bjharvest.co.uk/jpg/browne3.jpg)

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...If this is the picture I think you are talking about on the BJH website (supplied by Jorn ) , then it is not Colin "Stoner" they are talking about.  

Although they think they are.

The picture is in fact COLIN BROWNE who played together with Richard in The Great White Idiot before the Doctors were formed. He was also a school mate of Richard and Peter DiLemma. And a regular visitor to our house and Peter's cellar in Brixton for practice sessions. He left before the Doctors were formed as such.

Brian


...Did he? Maybe? Maybe not? Sometimes time plays tricks on what really happened.

Maybe Colin Browne was briefly in the Doctors Of Madness. Although clearly the top photo of Colin Browne is not Colin Stoner. Any fool can see it's not the same person.

I wonder if Colin Browne is on this BJH photo from 1992, when he was in the band...

(http://www.bjharvest.co.uk/gallery/1989%20to%201993/slides/1992kgbs.jpg)

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Title: I'M JUST EXPLORING MADNESS
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2006, 12:59:04 PM
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My favourite ever artist is TV Smith  and my favourite ever band is the Doctors Of Madness.  

My favourite two albums ever are Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms  and March Of The Giants  

Do you think the worlds greatest artists will ever play toether live again  or am I "Just Exploring Madness."

Tj and Kid Sundown 16 March 2002


Seven years ago I began a quest to achieve my fun and adventure goal and arrange a dream gig for TV Smith > Richard 'Kid' Strange > Stoner.

Today I am pround and alive now I've achieved that goal.

TUTS may I present the 2 Explorers and the 2 Doctors Of Madness live at the New Roscoe on Monday, 11th September, 2006.

This is a gig that even TV Smith told me to give up on because it would never happen.

It is the third gig TV has played with Colin Stoner since the sad demise of the UK's second greatest ever band and the first re-union of KID STRANGE and STONER since the final Doctors Of Madness gig in October 1978.

They said it would never happen, but belive and perseverance can jump mountains!

Many thanks to TV Smith, Richard Strange, Stoner and John Keenan. You have made me and many other Explorers and Doctors Of Madness fans very, very happy.

AWESOME!

 8)
Title: WOW
Post by: C5 on June 18, 2006, 02:19:05 PM
WOW TJ!!!!!!!!

I know you have been working hard on Earthbound week

BUT

I didnt realise what you were planning

Although I am not a Doctors fan.......


TV AND STONER TOGETHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I feel a wishlist coming on

May I take this opportunity to CONGRATULATE you on acheiving an ambition

AND

selfishly on behalf of myself

THANK YOU

THANK YOU  THANK YOU!!!!!!!!

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

C5
Title: Wake Up TUTS - Get Earthbound And Explore Madness With Me!
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2006, 11:31:40 PM
It's far more than an ambition my friend.

It's a dream goal.  :D  :D  :D

Thank you for posting about this C5 that really means a lot to me. :D

Phew! Seven years in the making.

 :? What do I feel like. I know...

I was still in the foothills when I fell asleep
But I dreamed that I climbed all night
Until the blood ran from my feet

And now I feel like a mountaineer as he reaches the brow
I dreamt TV would play Wake Up
So what´s the chance of that now?

 8)
Title: NO CHANCE
Post by: C5 on June 18, 2006, 11:33:12 PM
He aint got time

Got the entire Last Words and Channel 5 albums to play

BUT

as its for you

I fancy your chances

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

C5
Title: WAKE UP!
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2006, 11:39:10 PM
I think you are right C5, Stoner will have all on to re-learn acoustic type versions of a few of the Last Words songs, so demo's won't get a look in.

...Of course there's always E&S Elland and Essen, so if a little TV solo magic is in the air you just might be right.

I mean at Essen he played TODAY of all things. 8O  8O  8O

What a star. :D  

 8)
Title: HAHAHA
Post by: C5 on June 18, 2006, 11:56:41 PM
You were the only bugger that had ever heard of it

I reckon Burning Rain is pretty damn rare

hahahahahaha

C5
Title: Re: I'M JUST EXPLORING MADNESS
Post by: Uli on June 19, 2006, 07:40:46 AM
Quote from: "Tj"

TUTS may I present the 2 Explorers and the 2 Doctors Of Madness live at the New Roscoe on Monday, 11th September, 2006.

This is a gig that even TV Smith told me to give up on because it would never happen.

It is the third gig TV has played with Colin Stoner since the sad demise of the UK's second greatest ever band and the first re-union of KID STRANGE and STONER since the final Doctors Of Madness gig in October 1978.

They said it would never happen, but belive and perseverance can jump mountains!


WOW :!:   :o
I'm surprised and pleased you achieved that dream goal!  :D

Have Fun! is all that's left to say...  :)
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on June 19, 2006, 07:51:30 AM
Bloody hell! I don't think I'll be back in time from France for that either......

Bummer!

Alan
Title: TV Smith & Kid & Stoner Back Together Again
Post by: Tj on June 20, 2006, 05:28:45 PM
Thanks Uli. :D

See you their m8. :D

 8)
Title: What A Difference a Day Makes!
Post by: Tj on June 20, 2006, 05:30:51 PM
Now you know why I was so dissapointed that you were away for the week-end Alan.

Sorry mate. It's taken me seven years to arrange and you'll miss it by a day. Dahn! :(

 8)
Title: Re: TV Smith & Kid & Stoner Back Together Again
Post by: Uli on June 20, 2006, 06:14:42 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
Thanks Uli. :D

See you their m8. :D


Oh-ho, keep cool, I didn't say I was coming... Maybe, but...  :roll:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on June 20, 2006, 06:32:08 PM
TJ - you're disapponted?!!



Alan the Disappointed One
Title: Perchance To Dream
Post by: Tj on June 27, 2006, 10:53:50 AM
Wow! I've been away all week-end on a Goal Mapping course and they are the only two replies about TV playing live with Stoner again.

Somethimes I just don't get this forum. :?

 :idea: Of course it was my dream goal and not yours.

...At least I learnt that much on the course. :lol:

Me thinks I'll get a lot more interest and excitement on the new Dox Forum. Many thanks to Klaus for linking the Dox AfterGlow forum in to the M.O. site.

Chears mate. :D :D :D  

 :?

 8)
Title: Re: Perchance To Dream
Post by: Uli on June 28, 2006, 07:34:16 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
Wow! I've been away all week-end on a Goal Mapping course and they are the only two replies about TV playing live with Stoner again.


Maybe some TUTS don' t read this thread anymore as it's been going for sooo long...
(TJ - think of the E4G thread with not too many replies and then how many people did turn up? There is a lot of people who read the Forum and are really interested, but never post themselves!!)
Title: Feedback On The Leeds TV, Strange and Stoner Gig 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on July 04, 2006, 04:39:48 PM
I had the same thought on the Doctors Of madness forum Uli. So I changed the title.

It's gone down miles better their...

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Superb news! Well managed sir... let me clear the diary!

Hugh


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I'm so excited!

If this goes to plan you shall have my ever lasting respect.

Rocket Ron


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Amazing Tj,

Dare I say it?
"INFORMATION OVERLOAD!"
(Could not help myself)

Just used up my hard earned sheckles to fly to LA.
Now I have to fly to the UK as well.

Julian (USA)

 
Quote
Exploring Madness...

The mighty TJ is doing again :

So, hurry. Go, fly, drive, swim or whatever to be in Leeds on 11.09.2006

No excuses taken.
 
http://strange.qxite.de/index.php?p=newspost&nid=45

Joern


I'll take up your advice and change the post title Uli.

...And put in another link. :idea:

 8)
Title: The Dream Line Up...
Post by: Tj on July 04, 2006, 04:42:08 PM
My Dream line up for the gig is...

1. Richard Strange solo - Songs from the Phenominal Rise and Happiness. Including I Won't Run Away... please!  

2. Two Doctors Of Madness - Kid and Stoner back together again for the first time in 24 years playing songs from the awesome Movies, Figments and Survival albums. Just read that one out loud again.

3. TV Smith solo - Songs from the seven solo albums, Cheap and The Adverts. Including tracks from his critically acclaimed new punk album Misinformation Overload - move over Green Day the protest king is back in town.

4. Two TV Smith's Explorers - TV and Colin Stoner back together for the third time playing songs from the amazing Last Words Of The Great Explorers album. A fabulous first even for me.

5. TV Smith and Richard Strange - The Worlds greatest singer-songwriters serve up a slice of Raw Meat For The Missionaries.

6. Two Doctors Of Madness and The Legendary Voice Of The Adverts - Richard Strange, Stoner and TV Smith - Back From The Dead. Nuff Said. But boy are you gonna have to shout for it!


So, now who's excited.

Of course this is my dream gig. I don't know what the tremendous trinity have up their sleaves.  

 8)
Title: TV Smith Explorers Re-union
Post by: Tj on July 04, 2006, 04:47:08 PM
Don't no if that will help Uli?

What do you think?

Of course it's not a full re-union, but it is very special and rare for Colin Stoner and TV to play together.

And as a bonus we get Richard Starnge and Stoner - Two Doctors Of Madness in their first ever re-union.

 8)
Title: exploring
Post by: Uli on July 04, 2006, 06:59:12 PM
Well, I sure hope it will help... But as usual I myself just followed the "new posts" and didn't even realise the new title until I read your post...  :oops:
Title: Ureka!
Post by: Tj on July 04, 2006, 07:07:40 PM
It worked on the EARTHBOUND week post m8. :D

 8)
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: jock on July 04, 2006, 10:24:30 PM
well done TJ !  8)   we'll be there .
Title: fantastic job TJ
Post by: C5 on July 05, 2006, 08:42:37 AM
Just heartbroken that I can't be there

 :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

C5
Title: A glimmer
Post by: Alan on July 07, 2006, 05:18:32 PM
Small possibility I will be there..... (but no Chris)



Alan
Title: Gary Glimmers Eyes
Post by: Tj on July 08, 2006, 02:48:39 PM
A Glimmer can grow...

LET YOUR LIGHT SHINE. :D

This is fantastic news. :D

 8)
Title: Yorkshirebound
Post by: Tj on July 09, 2006, 12:25:34 AM
Sometimes when you get a perfect line up the only way you can compete with it is repeat it. TV>KID>STONER  :arrow: so cool we decided to do it twice!

So far it's TV, Kid, Stoner, me, Smit, Klaus, Rancid, Gabumon, The Fleagles and The Jock's are up for this Yorkshire hat trick to celebrate EARTHBOUND 5 and EARTHBOUND WEEK.

Fingers crossed for Alan. Have you asked Fred, Alan?

Anyone have another number for Class of 79?

Who else is joing in, in this dream come true?

Well it is for me anyway. :wink:  :oops:

 8)
Title: Dream Or Be Damned!
Post by: Tj on July 28, 2006, 06:14:06 PM
I've just heard on the Dox site that they are discussing this gig on The Damned message Board. Please can someone tell me what is being said about the gigs?

Special thanks to Mart for the flyer which has just received the TV and Strange seal of approval.

(http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01005/13/13/1005823131_m.jpg)

Can't wait.
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on July 28, 2006, 08:04:22 PM
Looks good!; I may have a DVD project that Mart can help out with his design skills!

Cheers

Alan
Title: Another Bulletin...
Post by: Tj on July 30, 2006, 09:51:50 PM
Good idea Alan. :wink:

Here's the latest from the BULLETIN page at www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk

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Another Bulletin!

Hello Afterglow and Doctors people! Read up on the latest news, as of July 2006...

'JUST EXPLORING MADNESS' - LIVE!
The Leopard, Doncaster, Sunday September 10th, and the New Roscoe, Leeds, Monday September 11th 2006

TJ Sundown and Ron have pulled off a bit of a coup here- two EXTREMELY rare live collaborations of Richard 'Kid' Strange, TV Smith and Colin Stoner,in Doncaster and then Leeds. A Doctors/Explorers/Adverts dream ticket! This'll be the first time Richard and Stoner have played together since 1978.
Not sure exactly what the chaps have in mind for the night just yet, but I'd guess a number your DOM/TV Smith faves will be on the cards. Do NOT miss this one! Flyer and further details to right. Hats off once again to TJ for getting this in motion, and to Ron for the Doncaster date!

DISCUSSION BOARD BACK AND RUNNING!

Sorry everyone for the long absence of the discussion board - thanks to the efforts of Joern, TJ and Klaus of the TV Smith site, we're back in business, and have even retrieved a few of the older threads. Thanks chaps for your help on this!.

RICHARD STRANGE'S MYSPACE/RICHARD & DOM FOOTAGE ON DVD/TV APPEARANCE/BLACK RIDER SHOWS!

A DVD comprising footage from Richard Strange's solo career along some ultra-rare Doctors of Madness clips is currently available directly from Richard. Highlights a 'Phenomenal Rise' period Whistle Test appearance and - it's been a long wait kids - the Doctors' appearance on the Twiggy Show from 1976, featuring the songs 'Doctors of Madness', and 'Perfect Past', the latter featuring Twiggy herself as co-vocalist! Contact Richard directly on this at TheGreatStrange@aol.com


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/Kid-publicity-shot-polydor.jpg)
Title: So Quiet!
Post by: Tj on August 05, 2006, 04:08:46 PM
Not one single post in a week. 8O

Oh! Well maybe a miracle will happen and Klaus will return.

He actually likes The Explorers. 8O

Oh! Well I've only just spent 20 odd hours on these gigs in the last three days. :roll:

 8)
Title: Jump A Mountain Now!
Post by: Tj on August 05, 2006, 04:10:40 PM
But I never give in! :twisted:

So far we have lined up...

Richard 'Kid' Strange "He restores one's faith in the ability of the human spirit to soar" ...James Nesbitt

Stoner "The best bloke I ever had in the band" ...Richard Strange

TV Smith "TV Smith, a legend!" ...Richard Strange

Together we have...

The FIRST EVER back to back gigs by TV Smith and a member of his 'how the hell did they not become massive' 80's band THE 'GREAT' EXPLORERS  

The FIRST EVER re-union of two members of the influential cult legends and punk pioneering DOCTORS OF MADNESS

PLAY LIST
1. Richard Strange solo
2. Kid Strange and Stoner play Doctors Of Madness songs
3. TV Smith solo
4. TV and Colin Stoner play The Explorers songs
5. TV and Richard play Raw Meat For The Missionaries
6. TV, Kid and Stoner play Back From The Dead

And so it was when I spoke with THE GIANTS

I recently phoned TV Smith and he said "Guess where I am?" It turned out, he had traveled all the way to the South West to practice Explorers songs with Colin Stoner. Now there's a man who puts himself out for his fans. The V must be for Valiant! :D

GIG FLYER
Please do everything you can to circulate this, Russ. Press, music papers, local record shops etc.

We are also working on...
 
Official Photographer

Official filming and sound recording

Official press releases

'Just Exploring Madness' e-banner for use on other website. Such as yours please. :D

Soon to be announced...

LIVE YOUR DREAMS

I am in the final stages of co-launching an internet journal on inspiring people to live their dreams. My colleague in this is Jeni Mumford the author of the soon to be released Life Coaching For Dummies book. The blog is called Starfish Rising and is a proposed blog intro...

"Starfish Rising

Inspiring You To Live Your Dreams

Starfish Rising is dedicated to dreams come true. It is the journal of two coaches, Jeni Mumford of Starfish and Tim Downes of Rising Talent. Both are committed to inspiring people to live their vision of success. They feel it’s important to walk the talk by making their own dreams a reality. Future journals will be aimed at inspiring change by sharing their journey and shining a light on learning to nurture growth, helping people transform from potential to success."

The sites main focus initially is to advertise ‘Just Exploring Madness’, my dream gig.

The blog site address is http://www.starfishrising.typepad.com/  

MY SPACE

To be viewed with the Gas Full On!

www.myspace.com/justexploringmadness

...and finally (for now) as recently mentioned by TV Smith on the Tom Robinson Radio Show...

EXCLUSIVE ALE

On Monday 21st August I will be working at the Elland Brewery (formally known as Eastwood & Sanders) brewing an exclusive beer for the gig called ‘EXPLORING MADNESS’. The beer will be on sale at both The Leopard and The New Roscoe.

Hope that is enough to persude all The TUTS, and anyone who reads this forum, to come to, at least both gigs.

 8)
Title: Post Away!
Post by: Tj on August 05, 2006, 04:19:29 PM
What only 15304 views!  8O  

That's not enough!  :twisted:

We want more. :mrgreen:

Come one TUTS I've been working on these two gigs for 7 years!

Please. :D

 8)
Title: Anticipation of the Yorkshire gigs.
Post by: rancidtom on August 06, 2006, 11:31:59 PM
I can hardly wait, I've booked my holidays from work, am sat here itching to go to Wasted, and can hardly contain myself over Yorkshire and Germany gigs. It's like being a kid again with the prospect of six weeks summer holidays about to happen...
Title: Feeling Like I'm Almost 16 Again!
Post by: Tj on August 07, 2006, 05:14:43 PM
Too right Tom! :D  :D  :D  :D  :D

 8)
Title: The GREAT Explorers Are Back Jumping Mountains!
Post by: Tj on August 08, 2006, 09:23:27 AM
Just received an e-mail from TV...

He really enjoyed the rehersals with Stoner and he's confident we'll enjoy The Explorers songs they worked on.

...You betcha. :D

I spoke to Stoner at length at the week-end and he also really enjoyed working with TV again in the South West.

He is going to send me a bio through for the marketing I'm working on. It will be great for us all to find out what he's been up to since The GREAT Explorers.

Stoner is soon to be traveling over to London to begin rehersing songs by a band called the Doctors Of Madness later this month.

Anyone excited yet?

 8)
Title: Amen Atilla
Post by: Tj on August 08, 2006, 12:30:21 PM
This is what Amen and Atilla The Stockbroker have said about the gigs...

Quote
SOUNDS PERFECT AND ITS ON MY BIRTHDAY TOO!!

ANYTHING WITH TV IS PURE GENIUS!!!!

HE IS THE MAN!!

ALL THE BEST OF LUCK AND KISSES!!

AMEN


(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery/albums/userpics/11963/normal_18.jpg)

Quote
It sure is my dream gig, but I already travel the whole time and it’s in Yorkshire.

 :idea: Will have to do one down here. :D

Atilla


 8)
Title: What A Kid!
Post by: Tj on August 08, 2006, 04:53:34 PM
This is what Richard has to say about the gig on his My Space site...

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=54724352

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To call this a rarity is like calling water wet. It's a no-brainer but doesn't tell the whole story. A show with TV Smith and Stoner, bassplayer and backing singer of the Doctors of Madness. Playing alone and together.

Richard Strange


(http://myspace-682.vo.llnwd.net/00489/28/60/489210682_m.jpg)

Cool. 8)

 :D  :D  :D

 8)
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Uli on August 09, 2006, 07:18:31 PM
Did you send someone to the Official Damned board? A person whose name I forgot already (sorry) posted there:
Quote
forgive the spammish post, but some of yers might care to know Kid and Stoner of Doctors of Madness (who Dave Vanian briefly co-vocalled during Damned down-time in 1978 are hooking up with former Advert TV Smith for a couple of shows in September (Doncaster and Leeds). I'm guessing most of you are familiar with TV's work, the Doctors were an all-important lost link between brit pre-punk and punk. For details see here: afterglow.misinformation-...
Title: The Damned Doctors
Post by: Tj on August 10, 2006, 03:34:17 PM
No, they must have read about it on the Doctors forum, Uli.

I had heard that it had been metioned their.

Anything you can do to pass on the My Space, Blog links (see TV Chat) etc the more people we can get their the better.

Please all try and spread the word TUTS. If this is a success you never know what might happen next. :D

And just to make it even more interesting we have the flyer, poster and the special brewing by me, Smit and Dave Sanders of Elland 'Exploring Madness.'

Many thanks for your help Uli. :D

 8)
Title: mb
Post by: Uli on August 11, 2006, 06:08:55 PM
Rancid Tom and others replied, the link to myspace is also in now.
The person posting the first entry on this calls himself "chuck noblett".
Title: Damned Damned Damned
Post by: Tj on August 14, 2006, 01:32:22 PM
Thanks Uli. What exactly are they saying?

Please can you copy it over?

 8)
Title: Wave The Banners! Fly The Flyers!
Post by: Tj on August 14, 2006, 01:36:13 PM
Many posters and flyers put up at WASTED and a lot of interest shown.    

Also nice to hear that The Explorers are popular still as this was the band most mentioned after seeing the flyers.  

Many fans are looking to travel long distances to catch the gigs.  

Mart won the award for the most prominant poster.

The photo of the poster, Fred, Chris and Mart will be a cracker!

Many thanks to Klaus for producing the superbd banner as you enter the site! :D
 
 8)
Title: damned messages
Post by: Uli on August 14, 2006, 07:32:40 PM
OK, here goes:
RancidTom
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You can also find lots more info on
tvsmith.com
The above mentioned gig is part of the "Earthbound 5 England" series of gigs in and around the Leeds area, early September.
Come along, buy beer and records!
(If myself, Jock and Carol don't drink the bar dry first...)


chuck noblett
Quote
in a way, these shows kind re-visit Doctors of Madness final gig (october 1978) , where TV joined DOM on stage for the encores. He and Kid collaborated on a still unreleased album (I think bootleg copies float around). I think Vanian had dropped out at this point and didn't join them on stage, may well have been in the audience tho. Stoner later went on to join TV in his post-Adverts Explorers outfit.

there's one recording I'm aware of featuring David with Doctors, which is the demo for 'Don't Panic England', a TV Smith composition, which is an extra track on the CD reissue of the Docs final album, Sons of Survival


PaulKray
Quote
I think Don't Panic England was a b-side. The recording on the CD certainly sounds like it was taken from vinyl.


chuck
Quote
more detail on these shows here:

www.myspace.com/justexploringmadness


Tom
Quote
I'll be there, and Germany too. After Wasted of course. See you all there.
Title: Doctor Damned
Post by: Tj on August 16, 2006, 06:48:23 PM
Phew! They sure got a lot of their info wrong. :?

e.g. The live album was released as Into The Strange / TV co-wrote Don't Panic England with Richard Strange / It was to have been the Doctors final single (with Vanian on vocals).

I see that they don't mention that Richard Strange was once (for a very short time) the lead singer of The Damned. 8O  

Oh! Well at least they are talking about the gig, which is great news! :D

Many thanks Uli. :D

 8)
Title: Tickets On Sale For Leeds Gig
Post by: Tj on August 16, 2006, 07:07:51 PM
After I dropped Klaus off I went around Leeds putting up flyers and posters in various shops and pubs. Including the exact spot where I saw something that led to meet TV.

The great news is that the tickets are now on sale and I bought a handful for smit and my family. :D

You should see how they have been written up. 8O

You can now purcahse your tickets by phone from Jumbo on 0113 2455570. Do it now - don't delay! :wink:

 8)
Title: fleagles are you going ill fukkin drive !!!!
Post by: abused and confused on August 16, 2006, 07:55:34 PM
i GOTTA go.  8)
Title: Driver Or Passenger
Post by: Tj on August 17, 2006, 11:01:45 AM
They did that once Markus...

...Never again! :wink:

 8)
Title: Re: Doctor Damned
Post by: Uli on August 17, 2006, 07:38:15 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
I see that they don't mention that Richard Strange was once (for a very short time) the lead singer of The Damned. 8O  


Huh? I've read loads of websites about the Damned, tons of zines, books and so on, watched videos dvds and all that, but I never heard of that before. Also we discussed about them in various threads over the years in this Forum and you never mentioned this before (imagine TJ not using a chance to mention Kid Strange???)!!!  :o
It's about time you come across with some info, preferably with a reliable source too...  8O
Title: Kid Strange Be Damned
Post by: Tj on August 18, 2006, 10:12:13 AM
I had the same response on the Doctors of Madness site, Uli. They said I had got it the wrong way round and it was Dave Vanian who was once the singer of the Doctors Of Madness.

...Which is true in one part as Dave was once the co-singer of the Damned and sang on their great last single, Don't Panic England, which wasn't released until the awesome Sons Of Survival CD by Ozit. A song written by messrs Smith and Strange. He also briefly toured with them in '78 as co-singer.

But hey Uli? Have you ever known be to be wrong about Richard Strange?

Why not raise this topic on The Damned forum and see if anyone has heard about Kid Strange's brief exploit as The Damned's lead singer? :D

 8)
Title: rumour
Post by: Uli on August 18, 2006, 05:16:14 PM
I did mention it in the thread about Kid and Colin and TV (as it fit in there), but marked it as "rumour" as you did not give any reliable source or any hints about how and when...  :roll:

Btw, there is a thread about TV live on the Damned MB too, he's got some popularity there!  :D
Title: It's True I Say!
Post by: Tj on August 18, 2006, 06:13:09 PM
Great about Damned talking about TV.

How can it be a rumour when I read it in Richard Strange's own book? 8O

It's not exactly something he would make up is it?

...It wasn't for long mind you.

 :?

 8)
Title: book
Post by: Uli on August 18, 2006, 07:50:32 PM
Until you gave your source, to me it was a rumour...  :P

Quote
They said I had got it the wrong way round and it was Dave Vanian who was once the singer of the Doctors Of Madness.


That's quite exactly what the person who replied over on the Damned board said as well!  :lol:

Hope we can learn more about it when/if you mention when and how it happened...  8)
Title: Punks and Drunks and Flicks and Kicks!
Post by: Tj on August 19, 2006, 11:16:37 PM
The STRANGE memoirs - page 90!

Now it is not a rumour! :P

 8)
Title: book
Post by: Uli on August 20, 2006, 10:35:06 AM
Well, I guess I won't buy the book to just read page 90...  :P

 :idea:
Maybe someone else read it and can tell me when/how it happened.
 8)
Title: I Live For Everything!
Post by: Tj on August 22, 2006, 12:23:20 AM
Alans' got a copy Uli. :wink:

So enough of all this damned talk. Who's up for the Doctors Of Madness and The GREAT Explorers?

 8)
Title: This Stockbroker He Has Great Taste!
Post by: Tj on August 22, 2006, 12:08:00 PM
Great news! Atilla is palying the New Roscoe in Leeds on Wednesday night and he's agreed to plug the Explorers/Doctors gig and special beer during his set. :D Atilla is a ms

Big thanks Atilla. :D He's a massive fan of TV, the Doctors Of Madness* and real ale. 8)

Thanks for the extra batch of flyers Mart. :D

 8)

*And I didn't even mention The Clash. But Mick Jones won't be playing. :wink:
Title: board
Post by: Uli on August 22, 2006, 05:13:49 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
Great about Damned talking about TV.


Yeah, someone reported that Captain Sensible was standing next to him in the crowd at TV's Wasted gig.  :)

Now if Mick Jones would play with TV, Stoner and Richard...



...I still couldn't go.  :(
Title: Not Sensible!
Post by: Tj on August 22, 2006, 06:10:26 PM
Hmm the Captain talkins to TV. I wonder what they were talking about?

Was a banana involved? :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

 8)
Title: tv gig
Post by: Uli on August 22, 2006, 07:06:33 PM
Nah, he was watching TV's gig - not talking to him (he probably did, but not at that point in time). No bananas involved as far as I know (TV would have told you for sure, ha ha)!  :o
Title: Ouch!
Post by: Tj on August 22, 2006, 08:27:11 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Whatever you do don't tell the Captain where to shove his banana Uli!

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Title: bananas
Post by: rancidtom on August 23, 2006, 12:58:23 AM
and definitely DON'T accept a banana from Captain. We know where it's been...
Title: Damned For a Day
Post by: Alan on August 23, 2006, 09:23:29 AM
The passage TJ's referring to:

"In a strange variation on what had gone on 6 months previously, when Dave Vanian briefly joined the Doctors, The Damned asked me to join them, since they still didn't have a frontman vocalist. I joined them for one day. After one embarrassing evening in a rehearsal hall in Croydon with Captain Sensible, Rat Scabies and a guitarist all frantically scratching around to find some common ground, I said, 'Thanks, but no thanks.' I didn't pursue their offer"  

Alan
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Uli on August 23, 2006, 09:49:30 AM
Thanks Alan :!:
So it was a rehearsal rather than a gig. Doesn't sound like he was "in the Damned" to me, he "auditioned" as you might call it...  8)

Still I don't really have a clue when this was supposed to be. As it was Cap and Rat and another "guitarist"? So it was not before MGE, as Cap had already switched to guitar at that point.
Or was it at the very start, the guitarist then being Brian James (but you'd think Richard then would know his name?), before they auditioned Vanian? (The Damned history says the candidates were Sid Vicious and Vanian, the latter was the only one who turned up, so he got the job...)
 :?
Title: Dr Damned
Post by: Tj on August 23, 2006, 10:08:33 AM
Quote
"I joined them for one day."

Richard Strange


...I said it was brief. :P

They asked him to join. He joined for a day and turned down their offer, not quite the same as an audition, Uli. And yes I think Richard knows Brian James's name, you are right it wasn't him.

I think it was around late '78 or maybe early '79.

Hey! It got people talking on this theme and that's something!

Sometmes I wonder if everyone loves The Doctors Of Madness and The Explorers as much as me!

Thank gawd! For Dave Thompson, Smit and Atilla The Stockbroker! They have the same taste! :D

In fact I've a wad of flyers to take to Atilla who'g going to plug The Explorers/Doctors gig tonight at the New Roscoe! :D  :D  :D  

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Title: mick
Post by: Uli on August 23, 2006, 11:18:33 AM
Quote from: "Tj"
I think it was around late '78 or maybe early '79.


Okay, but I think Capt was already on guitar at that time. Guess it might have been Henry Badowski (who played bass for a while when they went out as The Doomed)...
Luckily they managed to get Vanian back on vocals for the new "Damned"... :D

Anyway, why isn't Mick Jones playing with TV, Richard and Stoner?  :mrgreen:
Title: No Clash Shock!
Post by: Tj on August 23, 2006, 11:50:26 AM
...Because I didn't ask him and he's not on the t-shirt! :P

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Title: Dare To Dream - Music Press Release
Post by: Tj on August 23, 2006, 11:57:58 AM
This is a music press release to tie all the work we-ve been doing to make this gig unique and extra special.

If anyone has any great ideas where to copy this to to generate more interest in the gigs and pack them both out, then please feel free to copy and forward it.

As ever, big thanks to Mart and Klaus for all their help. :D

Many thanks TUTS. :D

Dare To Dream…

Success Coach, Tim Downes (alias Tj Sundown) of Rising Talent Ltd has spent the best part of seven years cajoling and influencing master singer-songwriters TV Smith (The Adverts/The Explorers) and Richard Strange (Doctors Of Madness) to unite with bass player extraordinaire, Stoner (Doctors of Madness/The Explorers) to play together, for the first time ever since the Doctors of Madness last gig in October 1978. On 10th September in The Leopard in Doncaster and on the 11th September in The New Roscoe this ‘Just Exploring Madness‘ dream, comes true.  

Back in 1976 The Doctors of Madness were tipped (along with Midge Ure’s, Slik) to become the new Beatles. The band signed a major record deal with Polydor and just as the land of milk and honey came into view the Sex Pistols arrived, supporting the Doctors at their first Northern gig, and stole their crown for good. They did however go on to make three inspirational albums that ignited many up and coming new bands including Joy Division and Simple Minds. The Doctors also influenced many of the early punk bands including TV Smith and Gaye Adverts band, the lost legends called The Adverts. The Adverts shot to fame with their top 20 hit Gary Gilmore’s Eye’s. They became not only one of the first Punk Rock bands on Top Of The Pops and the John Peel radio show, but also the very first Punk band to brave the hallowed halls of the Whistle Test. Post the Doctors Of Madness, Richard Strange commenced a solo career and has now recorded a total of ten albums (at one point uniting his songsmith genius with his punk peer TV Smith). In 1983 he became a professional movie (Mona Lisa, Batman, Robin Hood - Prince Of Thieves), stage (Hamlet) and television (Men Behaving Badly) actor. His phenomenal life is captured in his 2002 autobiography, the STRANGE memoirs. Richard recently completed a world tour with Robert Wilson/William Burroughs/Tom Waits collaboration, The Black Rider, which won critical acclaim in the UK, USA and Australia.  Post Doctors, Stoner joined TV Smith in The Explorers. Another band that looked like they were on the crest of the wave with the much loved by John Peel song, Tomahawk Cruise, but the small record Company couldn’t keep up with demand and the moment was lost. Colin (Stoner) Bentley went on to leave London and play with several local South West bands, including working with violinist Nigel Kennedy covering Jimi Hendrix songs. After the sad demise of The Adverts and The Explorers TV Smith released a solo album, formed the band Cheap (who released a posthumous album) and went on record seven stunning solo albums to critical acclaim, particularly in Germany, where TV drafted in top German band Die Toten Hosen as his backing band. His new album Misinformation Overload sees a return to the punk of protest, winning rave reviews “This is a bona fide protest album… barbed and imaginative lyrics carried by carousing tunes and rip roaring punk power chords…” – Classic Rock. His ability to keep carrying on despite what ever is thrown at him is chronicled in his brand new book of punk rock tour diaries, GETTING THERE.

Seven years ago Tim Downes saw the photo of TV Smith Kid Strange and Stoner together at the final Doctors of Madness gig in 1978 and he just knew he had to re-create that scene by somehow arranging this his dream gig, even though he knew the artists concerned were not exactly jumping through hoops about re-union gigs. “People told me to give up- it was never going to happen,” says Tim “but if coaching others to focus on their dreams for themselves has taught me anything, it’s that you never give up looking for ways and sooner or later you’ll get there, if you want it enough. I’m ecstatic that they have agreed to It, so thrilled that I thought let’s really go for it and have two dream gigs.” Like all good Yorkshiremen, beer is another of his passions, and Tim has decided to add a different twist to the gigs by brewing a special Exploring Madness beer with award wining local brewer Dave Sanders at Elland Brewery and Mark Smith of the new Two Halves Brewery in Market Deeping. This ultra pale and hoppy real ale will be served at both gigs.

Working on this dream come true has lead Tim to unite with fellow coach, Jeni Mumford of Starfish. Jeni’s dream is just reaching fruition as she is the author of the soon to be released Life Coaching For Dummies book. Together they are working on a project called Starfish Rising to inspire people to go for it and live their dreams.

Dare to dream – you can do anything!    

www.starfishrising.typepad.com
www.myspace.com/justexploringmadness
www.tvsmith.com
www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk


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Title: Marketing The leeds Gig At The Leeds Fest
Post by: Tj on August 29, 2006, 09:48:17 AM
So there I was at Leeds Fest wearing Adverts gear on the Sunday and my Doctors Of Madness t-shirt on the Saturday.

The plan was attract attention and then give any fans a flyer.

Nothing all Saturday morning, so I forgot about it. Later two lads came bounding up to me jumping up and down like they had found a long lost relative.

I managed to squirm away and then Mart caught me up and said...

"I think they were mad keen Doctors Of Madness fans!"

Oops! :oops:

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Title: This Is No Tribute It's The Real Thing!
Post by: Tj on August 30, 2006, 06:21:20 PM
Quote
The New Roscoe presents a wide variety of live music on most nights of the week. A mixture of blues, country, rock, indie, roots, etc. can be heard in any one week with Friday & Saturday night gigs free. The venue has been graced by many top acts on tour from here & the States. The venue is also a showcase for up-and-coming local bands under the LiveInLeeds "Springboard" promotion.

If you prefer some nostalgia then check-out some of the tribute bands who appear on a regular basis. From new wave/punk through to legendary rock, most tastes are catered for. The large stage and close proximity to the audience makes it one of the best venues for enjoying live music in Leeds.

New Roscoe Website
Title: Leeds B&B's
Post by: Tj on August 31, 2006, 04:26:18 PM
Those looking for Hotel/B&B's in Leeds try these two I have just had recommended by the Leeds Tourist Info centre on 0113 2425242…
 
‘City Centre’ (B&B) near Grand Theatre – cheap & handy for New Roscoe – 0113 2429019

‘Holiday Inn Express’ (near Royal Armouries) 0870 8900455

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Title: The GREAT Explorers
Post by: Tj on September 03, 2006, 04:37:48 PM
Quote
What are your next projects, now?

A couple of gigs together with the bass player from my band after the ADVERTS, THE EXPLORERS, where we'll be playing quite a lot of songs from that band.

TV Smith - Wardance Interview


 :idea: One way I’ve found to get an extra few punters in is to have it as an old friends re-united gig, so a few of the kids I grew up with are going.

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Title: Strange Speaks OUT!
Post by: Tj on September 04, 2006, 07:10:35 PM
Quote
Doctors of Madness/TV Smith Expolrers Gigs

This coming weekend, the 10th and 11th September, I shall be playing two gigs in Yorkshire. That is unusual enough in itself. I don't get out so much these days!

What makes the prospect of these two shows all the more intriguing is the fact that I will be playing with two friends. Firstly, The great Stoner, bass-player and vocalist extraordinaire with my old band, the Doctors of Madness, will be joining me to play a selection of that band's songs. Our first reunion since we disbanded in 1978.

The second additional attraction of these shows is the fact that my old friend and collaborator TV Smith, ex-Leader of the Adverts, will also be on both bills, and we will also join forces to play some of the songs that we wrote and demo-ed together back in the late 70's. The shows promise to be a hugely enjoyable showcase for the three of us, and we very much hope as many friends and fans will get along as possible

These gigs will take place at the Leopard, Doncaster on the 10-9-06 and The New Roscoe, Leeds on the 11-9-06. Doors open at 8pm, tickets cost £6.

Tickets can be ordered from Jumbo Records Leeds on 01132 455570 or Rocket Ron 07749 793697.

and there will be songs, CDs, DVDs and all manner of artefacts available for sale on the night.

Looking forward to seeing as many of you there as can make it. Come back and say Hi afterwards.

Best to you all Richard Strange
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: mart2986 on September 05, 2006, 01:55:11 PM
How can tickets be ordered through the myspace site?

I'm interested to know... :roll:
Title: Tickets
Post by: Tj on September 06, 2006, 10:25:28 AM
I'll amend it m8. :wink:

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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: GJ on September 06, 2006, 09:58:15 PM
Hi TJ- can you confirm the stage times for monday please?
Title: WHAT A SHOW!
Post by: Tj on September 07, 2006, 02:11:52 PM
At Leeds the doors Open at 8:00pm

Not long after that...

Richard Strange
Doctors Of Madness
TV Smith
TV Smith's Explorers
TV, Richard & Stoner

The estimate is that the set will be around 3 hours long in total.

This is a one in a lifetime show GJ, I'm really glad you are going.

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Title: Re: WHAT A SHOW!
Post by: Mansunkid on September 07, 2006, 09:31:56 PM
...oh shit...I wish I could be there
 :(  :(  :(  :(
Title: Those GREAT EXPLORERS
Post by: Tj on September 08, 2006, 10:35:25 AM
How come The Explorers seem to excite more people in Germany?

 :?

Come on UK - it's time to support The GREAT TV Smith's EXplorers...

Altogether now...

"Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner! Stoner!"

You knaw what would make my day?

...If Dave 'TV Times' Thompson flew (or sailed) over from the States and arrived at the gigs unnanounced.

How cool would that be? Personally I blame Bin Ladden, Bush and...

Well that will do for now.

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Title: DARE YOU MISS THIS?
Post by: Tj on September 08, 2006, 08:00:48 PM
(http://afterglow.misinformation-overload.com/forum/templates/AdInfinitum/images/top_image.jpg)

DARE TO DREAM TUTS...

NOT A BAD DAY!
Title: ENJOY
Post by: Uli on September 09, 2006, 08:09:11 AM
Enjoy these gigs, you lucky people who can go :!:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Gabumon on September 09, 2006, 08:24:13 AM
i think we can do a DVD or something else
Title: Explore That Madness
Post by: Tj on September 09, 2006, 12:35:53 PM
I'm getting real excited! :D

Klaus has already cashed in his first miracle. :lol:

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Title: Back From The Dead
Post by: Alan on September 12, 2006, 08:57:33 AM
Great gig - worth getting lost for!

There were some rather more impressive video cameras than my own at the gig, so hopefully some better film will surface in time, but in the meantime here's, rather fittingly, 'Back from the Dead'....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCC3hjuApY

Cheers

Alan
Title: Thats Brilliant Alan
Post by: C5 on September 12, 2006, 11:07:44 AM
THANK YOU

And thanks for all the stuff you have put up on Youtube

Not only does it spread TV's word

I get to see gigs I missed THAT i was going to  eg Wasted.  Some great performances there

Thanks again

 :D  :D  :D

C5
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 12, 2006, 11:12:47 AM
Pleased they're appreciated - I have a dozen or so songs from last night.... so keep watching the tube!

Cheers

Alan
Title: FANTASTIC
Post by: C5 on September 12, 2006, 11:32:58 AM
looking forward to reading the reviews and reviews and reviews and...........

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


C5
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: GJ on September 12, 2006, 12:37:33 PM
Hugely enjoyable gig- well done TJ, and I was pleased there was a good turn out on a monday night. Good to see a few TUTS too- hope you all got back OK.
Title: Leeds New Roscoe
Post by: rancidtom on September 12, 2006, 01:21:07 PM
A brill gig, will get some pics up asap, but first I have to pack for Germany...
Title: marvellous
Post by: fleagle on September 12, 2006, 03:41:02 PM
well done again Alan

i think you are due a career change to TV official cameraman! (UK Branch) - i think gabuman has Germany sewn up!!

fleags
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 12, 2006, 06:37:30 PM
Cheers Fleags - here's another one; The Servant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw

Mind you Gabuman was there and, although size is not everything, here's camera is bigger, AND I think he filmed every song.....


Alan
Title: Dare To Dream
Post by: Tj on September 13, 2006, 05:49:54 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw

8O

8O

8O

:twisted:

:D

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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 13, 2006, 05:54:03 PM
Who was that mystery man who took the stage?
Title: are you having difficulty too?
Post by: C5 on September 13, 2006, 05:54:28 PM
Alan its telling me my java script is switched off

so i downloaded a new one

it tells me its working AND INSTALLED
but i cant view a thing

HELP

C5
Title: "The Great ?"
Post by: Tj on September 13, 2006, 05:55:46 PM
:?

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(I'm being humble Fleagles :oops: )
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 13, 2006, 06:01:02 PM
C5 - I'm fine; probably best to turn your pc off and then boot up again and it'll probably clear. If not try to do a restore (Probably in Programmes > accessories > system tools > system restore), restore to an earlier point when your PC was working OK.

TJ - humble?!
Title: Tj Humble
Post by: Tj on September 13, 2006, 06:18:38 PM
Hey! I'm trying.

It's just that my humble isn't as good as C5's

...and Fred's

...and Jock's

...and The Fleagle's

...and Uli's

...and Klaus's (not sure about his vanity though - he's a handome bugger my Bro!)  
     
...and Markus's

...and Lari's

...Mart's (not sure about his vanity though - he's a handome bugger my boy!)

...and Gabumon's  

...and TV's

...and Simse's

...and Smit's

and you and Chris, Alan, but I am trying. :roll:

So what dream adventure next?

Anyone fancy a firewalk? :lol:

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Title: The Son Of Survival
Post by: Tj on September 14, 2006, 11:58:58 AM
So, did anyone spot Hippie Dave Damned on the front row?

He's just been on the Doctors Afterglow forum and said that Leeds was the best gig he has seen for years. :D

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Title: The servant
Post by: C5 on September 14, 2006, 04:26:43 PM
What a fantastic clip

Yep I got it working

AND TJ

You can actually sing mate

Brilliant   Absolutely Brilliant

Nice one and thanks again

Alan

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:


C5
Title: yes he can
Post by: fleagle on September 14, 2006, 05:39:56 PM
c5

i have to admit the old yorkshire bloke can 'purr' a tune... :roll:

so when are we forming this band then ? you and me on guitars ,tj on vox,
jock and/ or marcus on drums...who plays bass?

hee hee

1 gig a year at each earthbound i reckon.... :lol:  :lol:

there is lots more footage to come by all accounts ...so   we who wait?!?

fleags
Title: Re: The Son Of Survival
Post by: Uli on September 14, 2006, 06:06:24 PM
Quote from: "Tj"
So, did anyone spot Hippie Dave Damned on the front row?

He's just been on the Doctors Afterglow forum and said that Leeds was the best gig he has seen for years. :D

 8)


Good to hear that, I was going to ask if he made it!  :D

Fleagle, online too? (I'm in his house and not sleeping yet... drank cider all afternoon)... :roll:
Title: cider
Post by: fleagle on September 14, 2006, 06:23:00 PM
best we drink some more then - coming to get you :twisted:  :wink:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: I'M UP FOR IT FLEAGS
Post by: C5 on September 14, 2006, 07:49:26 PM
1 Day a year would be great

EARTHBOUND!
Title: The TUTS
Post by: Tj on September 15, 2006, 03:47:37 PM
Mart is learning the bass and his brother Sam plays both guitar and bass.

Bloody hell it was just a dream. :wink:  :lol:

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Title: we need somebody to play the keyboards
Post by: C5 on September 15, 2006, 04:56:05 PM
But sorry its not me

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

C5
Title: Cross?
Post by: Tj on September 15, 2006, 06:50:29 PM
Keyboards?

We're not re-making Channel 5 are we?

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Title: we have guitars we have bass
Post by: C5 on September 15, 2006, 07:35:47 PM
we have vocals    we have energy and enthusiasm

lets get keyboards

And we have a TV Tribute band

Imitated

Never

Bettered

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 16, 2006, 08:28:30 AM
Chris plays drums..... has his grade 4 too to prove it!


Alan
Title: excellent news
Post by: C5 on September 16, 2006, 10:08:24 AM
in fact who needs this TV Smith bloke

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

C5
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 16, 2006, 10:37:27 AM
And here's another one...

The Last Human Being

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5FFWTbfSI

Enjoy!

TJ - if you want to you could link these videos from youtube through to the exploring madness myspace...

Cheers

Alan
Title: brilliant Alan thanks
Post by: C5 on September 16, 2006, 10:56:44 AM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

C5
Title: Tomahawk Cruise
Post by: Alan on September 16, 2006, 02:27:08 PM
And another one.......


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsXwNu4_QXs


Alan
Title: massive thanks Alan
Post by: C5 on September 16, 2006, 02:40:36 PM
What a brilliant brilliant recording

Thanks

C5
Title: Sooon Soon Soon Suicide City
Post by: Tj on September 17, 2006, 10:01:02 AM
Thanks Alan. I've got to ask despite my current goal of being more humble. Did you tape Tj and The Doctors Of Madness singing Suicide City?

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Title: Thank You
Post by: Tj on September 17, 2006, 10:20:24 AM
Quote
Massive thanks Alan
What a brilliant brilliant recording

Thanks C5


Can I echo the massive thanks Alan? :D After watching The Servant video I went out and one two really important clients. I feel so alive and full of energy - literally bursting with belief. Watching your video gave me that! I didn't realise quite how much I went for it at Leeds.  :oops: At Doncaster I was drinking orange juice at Leeds Elland Exploring Madness.  :wink:  :lol:

Many, many thanks to TV, Stoner and Dik for the dreamweaving.

You are right about the Explorers sound C5. At Doncaster a mega TV Smith whispered into my ear that he has NEVER heard TV sound so good as when backed by the sublime bass playing of STONER on this Dare To Dream week-end. :D

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Title: i feel like i was there
Post by: C5 on September 17, 2006, 12:49:01 PM
Isn't YOUTUBE  amazing

Once you've got the great footage in the first place

 :D  :D  :D  :D

C5
Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on September 17, 2006, 06:19:17 PM
Sorry TJ I didn't get that one, I videoed:

Carrying On
The 'Cheri Blair' Song - Richard Strange
An unknown Doctors of Madness song
One Chord Wonders
Some kind of war
The Dance of Death
The Last Human Being -posted
The Servant - posted
Tom CRuise - posted
Walk Away
Back from the Dead - posted

I've had trouble posting more unfortunately, but will give it another go soon - unfortunately I have a laptop fault....

Cheers

Alan
Title: One Chord Wonders!
Post by: Alan on September 17, 2006, 11:32:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt0MDQel7PU
Title: Raw Meat For The Missionaries
Post by: Tj on September 18, 2006, 08:56:51 AM
Quote
Sorry TJ I didn't get that one.

Alan


Dahn! I just wondered what my solo sounded like. Guess I'll have to wait a while to find out. Fortunately there were at least half a dozen vid-camera's in the room.

It sure was wierd watching myself and TV singing The Servant on Sam & Mart's TV yesterday.

Fantastic that you got all three Raw Meat For The Missionaries songs, Alan and Back From the Dead by TV, Dik & Stoner. I was very, very surprised to find this on sale at the gig, and I bet I wasn't the only one. 8O On the more positive side it was great to see that Richard had used the Raw Meat For The Missionaries title that I'd been talking about for ages. That might be the closest I ever get to naming and album. :D

Other great moments you got on film are Smit's favourite TV Smith song, Walk Away and The Explorers singing Carrying On, which with the Doctors not playing No Limits (which the line "I'm just exploring madness comes from") for me it became the song that captured the spirit of the Dare To Dream week-end. :D

The Cheri Blair song is called You Will Die.

If you send me it first I'll let you know the title of the Doctors song, Alan.

Strange and Stoner had never played One Chord Wonders before. I shouted for it so TV could guess his own back as he had just played Waiting with them (having never played it before). Maybe this is the song you taped Alan. It was once described as the first ever UK punk rock song. I also shouted for it as I knew that Tom Robinson once managed to play along with it without playing it before. Despite the above I thought the encore worked really well.
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Title: One Chord Wonders - TV Smith & The Doctors Of Madness
Post by: Tj on September 18, 2006, 09:02:36 AM
Quote
"That's why so many punk bands loved The Doctors Of Madness, because they were punk before punk."

TV Smith


 :lol:

That was fun I really enjoyed that. Thanks Alan.

Not sure about that noisy crowd though. :oops:

...I don't think they gave a damn. :twisted:

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Title: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Uli on September 18, 2006, 06:26:16 PM
Thanks to the screening at yesterday's Earthbound in Essen, I managed to see a little bit of the Exploring Madness gig :!:
Klaus called Tj on his mobile when The Servant came!  :o
 
Sure you had a great night there.  :D
Title: I Am Your Servant
Post by: Tj on September 19, 2006, 10:38:57 AM
But Tj had left his mobile in his jacket! Duh! :roll:  :oops:

So great he played that and Carryiing On. Carrying On really captured the spirit of the Dare To Dream week-end. It was awesome when TV played it with Stoner.

We can do anything. :D

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Title: carry on
Post by: Uli on September 19, 2006, 11:18:07 AM
Carrying On was great in Essen, I loved that. But I was screaming the lyrics so loudly that Klaus and another guy in front of me turned round...
 :lol:

I think the first time Klaus called you (when you were on the screen), you were answering. Did you hear me screaming "yeah" or something in the background?  8)
Title: The Screamer
Post by: Tj on September 19, 2006, 06:04:30 PM
Yeah!

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Title: For The Fjords
Post by: Tj on September 20, 2006, 01:14:34 PM
Any news on the Leeds and Essen Klaus photo gallery?

...And all that other exciting stuff Gabumon. :wink:

I'm a desperate man. :mrgreen:

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Title: desparate man?
Post by: fleagle on September 20, 2006, 01:18:07 PM
Tj

you have had your 15 minutes of fame  :lol: ... :idea: I know.... you want a years worth now  :wink:

fleags
Title: The GIANTS
Post by: Tj on September 20, 2006, 01:21:00 PM
I wanted to see the photo's of TV, Stoner and Kid Strange Fleagle.

Just how vain do you think I am?

 :P

 :oops:  8)  :oops:
Title: strange behaviour
Post by: fleagle on September 20, 2006, 01:34:54 PM
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I wanted to see the photo's of TV, Stoner and Kid Strange Fleagle.


who is Kid Strange Fleagle ? some kind of bizarre offspring.... :lol:  :lol:

please punKtuate correctly :idea:

ha ha
just kiddin

fleags
Title: Kid Strange Fleagle
Post by: Tj on September 20, 2006, 03:59:30 PM
Hmm that kind of suits you. :lol:

I mean you're a big Kid

and a little...

 :lol:

 8)
Title: Did THE THREE GIANTS Enjoy The Leeds Gig?
Post by: Tj on September 27, 2006, 11:35:15 AM
(http://web.mac.com/igphotos1/iWeb/Site/R.%20Strange_files/DSC_2566.jpg)

(http://web.mac.com/igphotos1/iWeb/Site/R.%20Strange_files/DSC_2571.jpg)

...I guess they did. :D

I've just seen an awesome set of photo's from Rocket Ron's mate Ian. I'll check and see if it's okay to link them all to the forum. :D

And just when I was planning to Make My Escape.  :wink:  :lol:

 8)
Title: happy
Post by: Uli on September 27, 2006, 08:10:05 PM
Really good pics, they look so happy!!!  :D
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on March 24, 2007, 08:29:37 PM
Couldn't Walk Away away from this post without one last video on youtube:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo1qDfiwYIE


Alan
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on March 25, 2007, 01:45:34 PM
Ah! Smit's favourite TV song. :D

TV played it for him last night as well.

Mega thanks Alan. :D :D :D

Did you have Dance Of Death and/or Some Kind Of War?  
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on March 25, 2007, 02:01:39 PM
I have both of them in the archives deep in my vaults......
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on March 26, 2007, 10:24:17 AM
Thank you, Alan. I have the patience of The Samurai.

...Which is part of one of my daily incantations that I've been using for years.

I recently found out that The Samurai means The Servant.

I kinda like that... 8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw)
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Alan on March 27, 2007, 08:40:36 AM
OK I'v been down deep in the vaults, and here's 'Some Kind of War':

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGCohLt1zA


Alan
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on March 27, 2007, 09:22:39 AM
YAY!

I live in this skeleton
This flesh I call it home
Dressed up like Adam and Eve
Raw Meat For The Missionaries

What are you doing having fun?
When there's a battle going on outside your door?
Your door!
Your door!

There's Some Kind Of War...

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It's nice to have that song back in't it?

TV Smith

Love it.  :D

MEGA thanks Alan.
Title: The Dance of Death
Post by: Alan on March 27, 2007, 11:08:23 AM
TJ

OK here's the last of those long lost songs.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5G2C4iqU4

Mind you  I still have Carrying On now I think about it...

Alan
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on March 28, 2007, 09:51:40 AM
"Between the bullet and the brain that's the place where kings are born and die.

Between the pleasure and the pain live begins again for you and I.

Queue for The Dance Of Death"

TV Smith and Richard Strange


Another gem from the vaults from the two greatest songwriters on the planet.

Alan you are my hero. :D

Reach and grab those stars TUTS. 8)

Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on March 28, 2007, 10:19:43 AM
Err did he just say Carrying On. :o :o :o

With Stoner on bass???!!!!!! :o :o :o :o :o
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on May 03, 2007, 05:37:31 PM
Boy this theme has a lot of views.

The power of the holey trinity. :D

Stoner's gift of antique brass taps are sat on the shelve in my office right behind me shining in the bright sunlight. :D

I've just been working on my updated website and I'm including a little bit on the TV, Kid and Stoner Dare To Dream week-end. I might even dare to use one of these photo's. What do you think TUTS? Good idea, bad idea?

(http://web.mac.com/igphotos1/iWeb/Site/TJ.Ron%20and%20friends_files/DSC_2229.jpg)

(http://web.mac.com/igphotos1/iWeb/Site/TJ.Ron%20and%20friends_files/DSC_1726.jpg)
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Tj on May 08, 2007, 12:32:51 PM
I think I'm going to go for the top photo as Mart has placed the bottom one on my My Space site.

Back to TV & Kid.

This was one of my favourite quotes from the 100 Club The Adverts RS 2007 gig...

"Hey Tim! Just wanted to say how much i enjoyed the 100 Club gig. So passionate, so powerful, so pertinent, so pumped-up, so playful, so punktastic. Loved it, love you." Richard Strange x  
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 08, 2007, 12:36:26 PM
Back Home From The Dead. 8)
Title: Re: TV Smiths Explorers & Doctors Of Madness Leeds 11.09.06
Post by: Uli on May 08, 2007, 12:40:53 PM
Boy this theme has a lot of views.

That's you clicking it again and again...  ;)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 08, 2007, 12:45:28 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

The Afterglow's might disagree with you there. :-*
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 14, 2007, 08:58:48 AM
Mart claims to have seen Richard Strange on a new Oasis drink advert. Has anyone else spotted this?
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 14, 2007, 09:00:28 AM
Richard Strange is playing Glastonwick 12 on Saturday 16th June.

 
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Uli on May 14, 2007, 09:48:37 AM
There's been a few posts about the Doctors Of Madness on the Damned Message board/Forum (again, this topic seems to reappear every once in a while), if you wanna see them I can copy and paste them over or click:
http://www.officialdamned.com/
(It might be a page or two away now.Just click through or try "search".)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 14, 2007, 03:51:01 PM
Just checked one of them out. It was about Don't Panic England, The Dox with Dave on lead vocals and co-written by that TV fellow. Are there any other posts Uli?   
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Uli on May 14, 2007, 04:28:37 PM
Not anymore, all old posts will have vanished as the Damned Forum only holds 20 pages (I meant this topic re-appears from time to time, but not recently y'know)...
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on May 15, 2007, 12:43:22 PM
Okay then mate. Please can you copy over any future Doctors Of Madness or TV Smiths posts from The Damned forum. Thanks Uli. :D
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Klaus on June 10, 2007, 08:01:32 PM
My pics of the Leeds-Exploring Madness are now online in the new gallery.

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3124&g2_serialNumber=1&g2_GALLERYSID=a3db1a19f6a0e9cbac6966e43ef698ee) (http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery&g2_itemId=3122)

Click here for the album (http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?action=gallery&g2_itemId=1130)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on June 12, 2007, 04:55:01 PM
My God it's Kid Sundown and TV Smit. :o :o :o  
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on June 13, 2007, 08:32:01 PM
Fantastic photo's Klaus.

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3166&g2_serialNumber)

But whose that kissing Gabumon?  

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3181&g2_serialNumber)

Click here for the album
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Klaus on June 13, 2007, 08:37:22 PM
 :o
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on June 30, 2007, 02:53:28 PM
TV e'd me about all the Strange posters and I told him about the Strange tv advert...

This is the best quote from the Doctors site on the subject...

"Rock'n'Roll singers, Who end up by selling deep freeze......"

a line from one of my favorite songs......

what goes around, comes around (or summfink?)

Zelig eat your heart out..... 

Bill 
 

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hugh
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 Rock'n'Roll singers, Who end up by selling deep freeze......

a line from one of my favorite songs......

what goes around, comes around (or summfink?)

Zelig eat your heart out..... 

Bill 

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 In Sheffield too m'firend. He's just a grinning loon....
 
 
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 Oh! He's much more than that, Andy.

TV told me about all the posters in London.

There are none in Clifford.

Anyone fancy posting a photo up?

Great post about the deep freeze Bill.  Love it!

 
Title: "Rock'n'Roll singers, Who end up by selling deep freeze......"
Post by: Tj on August 23, 2007, 07:24:48 PM
My first Strange Oasis siting in Falmouth...  

(http://afterglow.misinformation-overload.com/strange_tj_2.jpg)

Richard Poison Arrow from the TUTS in Blackpool for the Rebellion festival...  

(http://afterglow.misinformation-overload.com/strange_tj_1.jpg)

...Two seconds later the door opened onto his back.

And no Dik didn't walk out.  ;D

Ah! Richards you do love to be beside the sea-side.
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on August 23, 2007, 07:33:56 PM
The Japanease Doctors of Madness. 8) 8) 8)

Richard & David Coulter meet Sister Paul - incredible stuff...  

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=13840082 (http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=13840082)

Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Klaus on August 23, 2007, 07:36:55 PM
?
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on August 24, 2007, 10:01:24 PM
What did you mean by ? mate?
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Klaus on August 25, 2007, 12:33:56 PM
When I first saw your post, the link was missing.
Guess you were in the middle of posting it.
The preview button is very handy in cases like that.
Now everything's alright! :D
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on August 27, 2007, 11:06:54 AM
Ah! Now I see clearly.
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on July 24, 2008, 03:37:30 PM
Hey look who's back today on my facebook link...

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a very happy birthday to you

xx richard strange

 :D
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on September 09, 2008, 08:53:57 AM
In some ways I wish it was two years ago today. :D :D :D

Or am I Just Exploring Madness?

Or dreaming of dreams that came true? ;) :D :D :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQCRaeapYsw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo1qDfiwYIE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo1qDfiwYIE)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fixOAgIi8Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fixOAgIi8Q)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpldX8aR3Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpldX8aR3Q)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5G2C4iqU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5G2C4iqU4)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGCohLt1zA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGCohLt1zA)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5FFWTbfSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5FFWTbfSI)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt0MDQel7PU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xt0MDQel7PU)

Many thanks for making dreams come true to TV Smith, Richard Strange, Colin Stoner, Rocket Ron and Alan the Newshounding Bloater.  :D  
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on September 09, 2008, 09:36:10 AM
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Still buzzing from those two great shows. Shall we do it all again next weekend, TJ? Very best love and thanks to you all for making it so memorable. Richard x

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Hi everybody, Big thanks to you all for such a memorable experience. ‘til the next time, my best wishes. Colin Stoner

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Just want to add my thanks to everyone for those Earthbound gigs. It was a real pleasure to play for you, and great for me to get the chance to try out some of those rare songs knowing that I was among friends! Those gigs were very special to me and I really appreciate the work many of you put into helping to organise and promote them, and the long distances many of you had to travel to attend. Teamwork did it. Isn't it exciting making something happen? It really was a couple of weeks that I'll never forget (despite the Exploring Madness...never was a beer more aptly named!) TV

(http://afterglow.misinformation-overload.com/forum/templates/AdInfinitum/images/top_image.jpg)

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TV Smith last played with Richard ‘Kid’ Strange and Stoner at The Doctors Of Madness last gig in October 1978. This cult re-union attracted fans from as far a field as Germany. TV smith hit the stage first blasting out the punk classics Gary Gilmore’s Eyes before the infectious tune and poignant lyrics of Not In My Name. Stoner soon took to the stage to take TV Smith’s Explorers tunes to another level. His fret bass playing was simply sublime.  After a string of Explorers classics and the appropriate dare to dream lyrics of Carrying On. I briefly took to the stage to sing The Servant – all part of the live out your dreams theme. Enter the diversity of the Richard Strange show and a song for Tony Blair “You Will Die.”  Headliners, Kid and Stoner, from The Doctors Of Madness, played melodic timeless songs that transported several of the hard core fans back 30 years to their pre punk hey day. The highlights were Billy Watch Out and the mesmerising Marie & Joe. I again entered the fray to sing a solo on the Ziggyesque Suicide City. The grand finale saw the return of TV Smith as TV, Kid and Stoner played four of the rare demo’s written by TV and Kid at the close of the 70’s; Raw Meat For The Missionaries. The crowd headed for the bar to sink the last few pints of the special Elland ‘Exploring Madness’ ale. Tj Sundown
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 10, 2008, 05:29:44 PM
Well, well, well at last someone has started talking about "The legends called The Doctors Of Madness."

 :D
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I'm actually listening to a Japanese CD of Doctors Of Madness' last gig called 'Into The Strange'. Unfortunately the encore with TV Smith is missing from the recording.
 Luckily, however 'The Last Human Being In The World' IS on the recent re release of the 'Sons Of Survival' album on CD as a 'bonus track (as well as the 'Don't Panic England' song with Mr. Vanian).

But, when I looked up the gig it mentions it was a two hour gig which also included an encore with Dave Vanian.

Does anyone know if there's actually a recording of that complete gig out there, and are there any other live recordings of the band WITH the violin before Urban Blitz quit the band?

There doesn't seem to be much in the way of other stuff out there. 

DJ
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 10, 2008, 05:35:35 PM
 :D Thank YOU DJ...

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Does anyone know if there's actually a recording of the complete last Doctors of Madness gig out there?

DJ

Send me an email to tj@tvsmith.com, DJ, and I'll send you the rare live recording of TV Smith, Richard Strange, Stoner and Pete Dilemma performing Making Machines at the final Doctors Of Madness gig at the Music Machine. I don't have the complete gig but I do have this, the most important missing song.

...Well it is for me anyway. :D

You can find out more about the Doctors of Madness and the TV Smith & Kid Strange 1978 Demo's called Raw Meat For The Missionaries at the following links...

http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0 (http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=44.0)

http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/  (http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/) They have a forum like this if you click on The Afterglow (the name of the Doctors Of Madness fan club). Hugh who orinated the site has recently interviewed Richard Strange and Pete Dilemma about their days withe the doctors. His first interview was with Doctor Dave Vanian.

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When I looked up the gig it mentions it was a two hour gig which also included an encore with Dave Vanian.

DJ

Dave Vanian didn't play at the final gig, that is just a rumour. Dave was however the co-lead singer of the Doctors Of Madness for one last tour prior to the final gig.

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Are there any other live recordings of the band WITH the violin before Urban Blitz quit the band?

DJ

Yes. ...An awesome gig at Oulton School.

The Doctors Of Madness were one of the very best live bands I've ever seen. If not THE best.
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Rockula on October 10, 2008, 07:48:40 PM
Thanks a lot TJ. There's a heap of stuff for me to get my teeth, erm, ears into there. I'll message you soon. 8)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 14, 2008, 04:17:18 PM
Thansk for the message DJ, let me know what you think of these posts, the music and the Doctors site and AfterGlow forum?
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 06:55:13 PM
Great to see the Doctors of Madness website is back up and runing and they have a new interview with the great Strange one by Hugh Gulland.  8)

Tj

Strange pray tell... Richard Strange interview, summer 2008

http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/Meetthedoctors_RS1_newJan09.html (http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/Meetthedoctors_RS1_newJan09.html)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 07:24:17 PM
These are some of the best bits. It's cool to see Bowie's influence get a mention and how The Doctors of Madness influenced a young TV and Gaye who were both fans. Tj

Tj

So the whole blue hair, the eyes thing, there’s a line in your book I think, some journalists asking “who was this outrageous Kid Strange and where did he come from” and it’s still kind of puzzling even after reading your book… Hugh

I knew I wanted to do something theatrical, although I’d come through… my songwriting is very much based in singer-songwriter tradition, Dylan and Jacques Brel and people like Roy Harper, that’s the stuff I was listening to from the age of 14 and that was a form I knew well, but I wanted to adapt it to a different sort of performance model. I like the idea of shock and surpise and outrage, and not many people did. Pop music, you must remember around that time, had become very po-faced until Bowie came along, it was very much about virtuosity more than anything. Ok, there’s an element of bombast and show and lasers and mirror balls and dry ice and all that stuff. But there wasn’t that much in the way of characterisation, of ‘who is this person’… you knew what this band represented as a ‘brand’ if you like. But outside of Bowie, and to an extent, Lou Reed, but… by then the Velvet Underground had broken up and Lou Reed was going through this rather odd period, not really being sure if he was a glam rocker or a serious poet, you know. And remember all this was before punk rock came along. So there is this weird, er, hiatus if you like between the prog rock and the glam rock… and the punk rock.

And that’s roughly where the Doctors set up, 1974, 5, was when I first started writing those songs, ’73, 74, 75, songs like Mainlines and Billy Watch Out, Mitzi’s Cure. All those songs were sort of put together in a two/three year period and that record came out in ’75 remember, so, those songs had been written 72, 73, two or three different permutations of the Doctors before we got signed. And then pretty soon after we got signed in 75 we were in the studio making that record, the four of us who were the Doctors of madness for the duration of those three albums. And it was exciting, an exciting time, we made it up as we went along and not everything we tried worked, commercially, not much that we tried worked but…. Looking back, I know even now, I mean, I get so much feedback or just mail from people who tell me in some small or large way, the Doctors of Madness changed their life, you know. Either artistically, or the way they thought about stuff, we set them off on a career path or a lifestyle path, that, they said would never have happened if they hadn’t seen that band, so you know… people like, I don’t know, Julian Cope or Jim Kerr, whoever it is… Jobson, The Adverts, people like that, all people who were avowedly influenced… Joe Elliot… were sort of fans. Retrospectively that’s all very satisfying, and doesn’t actually mean a great deal one way or another, except that it’s flattering to think these people who did take something and carried the baton in some way.

Richard Strange
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 07:34:27 PM
Here's another great excerpt from Hugh's interview with Richard Starnge talking about Punk and the forever rising talent of Urban Blitz and Stoner. Tj  

Were you conscious at the time, it’s hard not to look at the Doctors as something in the continuum of punk, did you feel something had to change… Hugh

Yeah, because the one thing we weren’t, especially I wasn’t, was ‘musicians‘! I was a writer who’d picked up a guitar, because that was my ticket in a way, even now I’m not a virtuoso… I’ll never be, you can go into a guitar shop in LA and you can hear a twelve year old kid playing these licks with his teeth or something… fucking hell! That’s not what I do, I’m impressed by virtuosity for a minute, I don’t think that’s really what I want to do. I love words, I love performance, I love phrasing, I love nuance, and emotion and articulation and intelligence and mystery and light and dark, those are the things that interest me in songs and music

Probably no percentage in competing with musically Blitz or Stoner either… Hugh  

Absolutely, I was terrified! Stoner and Blitz in particular were the ones that gave the Doctors their sound, their signature if you like. It was that very competent, melodic baseline and that raucous, neurotic, irritating violin, not many people use a violin, the Velvets used a viola, which is not the same instrument, but not many people, Curved Air at one time I think and then later Ultravox!

Richard Strange
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 07:40:03 PM
Hey! Nice to see my Dare to Dream gigs with TV, Richard and Stoner get a mention by Richard. Tj :D  

Do you think the interpersonal dynamic affected that as well, you mentioned Blitz’s style as irritating, I gather there was a bit of tension… Hugh

Yeah, we didn’t really get on, I never felt comfortable with him, he was very… I think he was probably very troubled, looking back… but I don’t know… you know, Peter was always a good friend to me, and Stoner too, as you know I did those gigs with TV Smith and Stoner, it was brilliant, great fun, it was very nice to see him and catch up and all the rest and there’s no bad blood between us at all. But there was, I think it’s probably typical of most bands, there’s a tension in a band that makes it bristle, if it’s working, whether it’s Morrissey and Johnny Marr, Lennon and McCartney, Richards and Jagger, Strummer and Jones… yeah, whoever it is, there’s usually a bit of conflict in there that sort of urges the other on, and it’s sort of, it makes the sum totally bigger than its component parts somehow. The Doctors were certainly like that, individually I’m not sure that any one of us would have made it as a professional musician, not at that time. But collectively we sort of whacked out this totally fucked up sound and narrative, we all sort of contributed in our ways and managed to make very much our own. That’s why it was good when it was good, because no one could touch it. Because we weren’t comparable to anything or anyone we weren’t trying to be like anyone, so we never fell short of anything, we were just seeing how far we could take it. Then musically, historically what happened, we arrived at a certain point, we were the closest thing that the Damned or the Sex Pistols or the Clash or the Jam could see to themselves and they sort of tagged on supporting us, because we were the headline band, we were the sort of band who were getting what they considered an audience probably closest to an audience they imagined might be theirs… Penetration, all those bands… we did gigs with Joy Division when they were called Warsaw… yeah, that’s early! So all those bands, Skids, Simple Minds, Julian Cope, all that stuff, was sort of on the back of it in a way.

And what happened of course was that this huge sort of punk rock juggernaut rolled into town and anything that had been around too long and wasn’t punk rock was old hat, regardless of quality or influence or integrity or…

You were probably in an odd position, in certain ways the Doctors were so ‘wrong’, with the almost-prog sequences, on the other hand so ‘right’, the graphics of that first album, the lyrical concerns… Hugh

Exactly, the lyrical concerns, it ticked so many boxes, the cartoon sort of names…

Who thought of those was it you? Hugh

Nah, well I was Kid Strange, and I said, look we should all have names, you will be Peter DiLemma I think I said, Colin came up with Stoner and Urban Blitz came up with Urban Blitz, we all thought it was a good idea and there was no problem with that, the blue hair, no one had blue hair in those days, it’s so commonplace now I’m almost embarrassed to say I’m probably the first…

Richard Strange
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are Just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 07:42:59 PM
I really enjoyed reading about The Doctors again. Many thanks Hugh and Richard.  :D

Here's the full 10 page interview again if you are interested TUTS...

http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/Meetthedoctors_RS1_newJan09.html (http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/Meetthedoctors_RS1_newJan09.html)

After all this is one of the most popular long runing themes of this forum.  :D
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 27, 2009, 08:30:17 PM
Here's my email to Uli on March 20th 2002 that started this long running theme...

Hi Ulrich,

Some facts on TV Smith and the cast of the Doctors Of Madness following on from Ulrich's question under The Damned and The Adverts section.

TV Smith and Gaye Adverts were big fans of The Doctors Of Madness in 1976.

Dave Vanian was in The Damned and briefly in the Doctors Of Madness.

Richard Strange  :P (vocals) was in the Doctors Of Madness and very briefly in The Adverts.

Stoner :P (bass) was in the Doctors Of Madness and played throughout the journey of TV Smith's Explorers  :P

Richard Strange  :P and TV Smith  :P wrote, played and sang several songs together and some of the demo's have been available as bootlegs.  :o I titled the Demo's Raw Meat For The Missionaries after one of the lines in the fantastic track Some Kind Of War. :P

Richard Strange and TV Smith played together at the Doctors Of Madness last gig - now available as a Japanese CD ("You be Japan") on Captain Trip records under the title Into The Strange.  8O

TV Smith and Stoner were re-united a few years ago for a one off gig. I missed it. :cry:

TV Smith and Richard Strange were re-united at Southwick last year. I caught it. :P  :D but, I forgot my camera  :'(

Fortunately Rocket Ron didn't...  Tj 27.10.09

(http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics/117g/images/1.jpg)

TV Smith and Richard Strange are performing seperately  :cry: at the moment :roll: at Southwick on June 1st 2002.  :D

My favourite ever artist is TV Smith  :P and my favourite ever band is the Doctors Of Madness. :P
 
My favourite two albums ever are Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms :P and March Of The Giants :P

So which Doctors Of Madness CD should you buy you ask :?:

The best Doctors Of Madness album was indeed Late Night Movies, All Night Brainstorms.

However, as Ulrich is clearly a punk fan I would start off with the harder edged Sons Of Survival.

The three albums (which includes Figmets Of Emancipation, featuring Marie and Joe; one of the greatest songs ever recorded) are soon to be all available from Ozit records on www.tractor-ozit.com .


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"Dressed up like Adam and Eve - Raw Meat For The Missionaries" Some Kind Of War
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Nick on October 28, 2009, 10:54:00 AM
That is a coincidence as I was going to ask which of the Doctors of Madness albums would be a good starting point for a new listener. I have never heard any of their music before.
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Uli on October 28, 2009, 01:53:06 PM
1st one to listen to should be this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCC3hjuApY

 ;)
From there you might find more youtube stuff by TV/Kid/Stoner and the Doctors of Madness. Watch out for Billy.  8)

@Tj, you were digging out 7 year old emails? Or did you mean the first posting in this theme?  ???
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Nick on October 29, 2009, 12:21:38 PM
That is a great version of back from the dead uli.

I like it when a new artist is pointed out to me as there is a wealth of material waiting for me to discover.
I always knew about the Doctors of Madness but for some reason never bought any of their recordings. I can't say why, they just slipped through the net so to speak.
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on October 29, 2009, 05:57:49 PM
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That is a coincidence as I was going to ask which of the Doctors of Madness albums would be a good starting point for a new listener. I have never heard any of their music before.

Maybe there's no such thing as conincidence Nick. ;)

I'd start with Late Night Movies (the equal best album ever made along with MOTG)...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpldX8aR3Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpldX8aR3Q)

Then Figments...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhbnOBIpgY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWhbnOBIpgY&feature=related)

Then S. O. S. featuring TV Smith live and a TV Smith penned song sang by Dave Vanian co-lead singer of the Doctors of Madness. :o

It really is T.V. time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMInVKFKbg&feature=related  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBMInVKFKbg&feature=related)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 04, 2009, 09:35:53 PM
Getting all nostalgic tonight.  

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3126&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=9c3355690f51cdaa35b0ebb3e8300674)

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3156&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=9c3355690f51cdaa35b0ebb3e8300674)

(http://www.tvsmith.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=3201&g2_serialNumber=2&g2_GALLERYSID=9c3355690f51cdaa35b0ebb3e8300674)

Dare To Dream…

Success Coach, Tim Downes (alias Tj Sundown) of Rising Talent Ltd has spent the best part of seven years cajoling and influencing master singer-songwriters TV Smith (The Adverts/The Explorers) and Richard Strange (Doctors Of Madness) to unite with bass player extraordinaire, Stoner (Doctors of Madness/The Explorers) to play together, for the first time ever since the Doctors of Madness last gig in October 1978. On 10th September in The Leopard in Doncaster and on the 11th September in The New Roscoe this ‘Just Exploring Madness‘ dream, comes true. 

Back in 1976 The Doctors of Madness were tipped (along with Midge Ure’s, Slik) to become the new Beatles. The band signed a major record deal with Polydor and just as the land of milk and honey came into view the Sex Pistols arrived, supporting the Doctors at their first Northern gig, and stole their crown for good. They did however go on to make three inspirational albums that ignited many up and coming new bands including Joy Division and Simple Minds. The Doctors also influenced many of the early punk bands including TV Smith and Gaye Adverts band, the lost legends called The Adverts. The Adverts shot to fame with their top 20 hit Gary Gilmore’s Eye’s. They became not only one of the first Punk Rock bands on Top Of The Pops and the John Peel radio show, but also the very first Punk band to brave the hallowed halls of the Whistle Test. Post the Doctors Of Madness, Richard Strange commenced a solo career and has now recorded a total of ten albums (at one point uniting his songsmith genius with his punk peer TV Smith). In 1983 he became a professional movie (Mona Lisa, Batman, Robin Hood - Prince Of Thieves), stage (Hamlet) and television (Men Behaving Badly) actor. His phenomenal life is captured in his 2002 autobiography, the STRANGE memoirs. Richard recently completed a world tour with Robert Wilson/William Burroughs/Tom Waits collaboration, The Black Rider, which won critical acclaim in the UK, USA and Australia.  Post Doctors, Stoner joined TV Smith in The Explorers. Another band that looked like they were on the crest of the wave with the much loved by John Peel song, Tomahawk Cruise, but the small record Company couldn’t keep up with demand and the moment was lost. Colin (Stoner) Bentley went on to leave London and play with several local South West bands, including working with violinist Nigel Kennedy covering Jimi Hendrix songs. After the sad demise of The Adverts and The Explorers TV Smith released a solo album, formed the band Cheap (who released a posthumous album) and went on record seven stunning solo albums to critical acclaim, particularly in Germany, where TV drafted in top German band Die Toten Hosen as his backing band. His new album Misinformation Overload sees a return to the punk of protest, winning rave reviews “This is a bona fide protest album… barbed and imaginative lyrics carried by carousing tunes and rip roaring punk power chords…” – Classic Rock. His ability to keep carrying on despite what ever is thrown at him is chronicled in his brand new book of punk rock tour diaries, GETTING THERE.

Seven years ago Tim Downes saw the photo of TV Smith Kid Strange and Stoner together at the final Doctors of Madness gig in 1978 and he just knew he had to re-create that scene by somehow arranging this his dream gig, even though he knew the artists concerned were not exactly jumping through hoops about re-union gigs. “People told me to give up- it was never going to happen,” says Tim “but if coaching others to focus on their dreams for themselves has taught me anything, it’s that you never give up looking for ways and sooner or later you’ll get there, if you want it enough. I’m ecstatic that they have agreed to It, so thrilled that I thought let’s really go for it and have two dream gigs.” Like all good Yorkshiremen, beer is another of his passions, and Tim has decided to add a different twist to the gigs by brewing a special Exploring Madness beer with award wining local brewer Dave Sanders at Elland Brewery and Mark Smith of the new Two Halves Brewery in Market Deeping. This ultra pale and hoppy real ale will be served at both gigs.

Working on this dream come true has lead Tim to unite with fellow coach, Jeni Mumford of Starfish. Jeni’s dream is just reaching fruition as she is the author of the soon to be released Life Coaching For Dummies book. Together they are working on a project called Starfish Rising to inspire people to go for it and live their dreams.

Dare to dream – you can do anything!

(http://b1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/01005/13/13/1005823131_m.jpg)

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/JustExploringMadness_small.jpg)

...I was begining to think I'd dreamt all this.

Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 04, 2009, 09:42:35 PM
Ever seen a Doctors video?

http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/doctors%20animated.html (http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/doctors%20animated.html)
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 06, 2009, 06:15:23 PM
Just played the TV & Kid Raw Meat for Missionaries album as part of mt Your Ticket Out of Here great TV journey.

I seemed to really hear the words to Big Break and Torpedo today for some reason. Never noticed that line about the ship of Self love before. I've just been using a galleon in ametaphor whilst coaching.

Still love Some Kind of War, Dance of Death, Last Human Being (in the World) and Summer Fun the most though.

Have you heard the alternative version of Summer Fun Dave?   
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 11, 2009, 11:38:04 AM
I was involved with helping with the editing but some of my replies missed the deadline (sorry Dave) so here's a few updates for you TV Smith completists out there...

Raw Meat for The Missionaries (Your Ticket Out of Here by Dave Thompson pages 36-38 / 49 - 50)

The above title for the TV Smith and Richard Strange demo's was created by Tj Sundown in this very TV Smith forum*. My feet were so humbled it felt like treading on gold.

It was Last Human Being (in the World) that was played live at the final Doctors of Madness gig not Kings of the Wreckage. This is correctly reported on the review of the gig on page 49.

Dave Vanian sang the TV Smith and Richard Strange penned last Doctors of Madness single; Don't Panic England.

* Let's see if I can do a Uli and SEARCH out the post.

Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 11, 2009, 11:43:27 AM
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I titled the Demo's Raw Meat For The Missionaries after one of the lines in the fantastic track Some Kind Of War.

Tj on this themes opening post on March 23rd 2002

It looks like I came up with the demo's title even before the start of this forum. I'll let you know if I find out when that was.

I know that I first found out about the demo's in a letter I received from Richard Strange a few years earlier when Attila re-connected TV and KID for this very special show in Southwick on March 23rd 2001...


(http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics/117g/images/1.jpg)

The photo above is the only available record of the first 21st Century re-union of TV Smith and Richard Strange. It was taken by Rocket Ron who helped me arrange the first 'Just Exploring Madness' Explorers and Doctors re-union gig in Doncaster. Here's Ron meeting his hero for the first time at Attila's Barn in 2001...

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/RS_Ron.jpg)

TV Smith and Richard Strange
Friday 23rd March 2001
Brighton - Southwick, Barn Theatre

 
1 Only One Flavour     
2 No Time To Be 21     
3 Cast Of Thousands     
4 Immortal Rich     
5 This Year, Next Year...     
6 The Future Used To Be Better     
7 For Every Hit There's A Miss     
8 One Million Pounds     
9 Soon As I Found It I Lost It     
10 I Know What You Want     
11 My Place     
12 The Day We Caught The Big Fish     
13 Eurodisneyland Tomorrow     
14 Gary Gilmore's Eyes     
15 Bored Teenagers     
16 Runaway Train Driver     
Encore 
17 Back From The Dead with Richard Strange

Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: anotherdt on November 11, 2009, 02:27:07 PM
Here's my email to Uli on March 20th 2002 that started this long running theme...

Richard Strange  :P (vocals) was in the Doctors Of Madness and very briefly in The Adverts.

Hmmm... a slight exaggeration there, don't you think?  A bit like saying TV was briefly in the Phenomenal Rise band....
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on November 11, 2009, 03:13:23 PM
Very briefly as in for a few minutes. ;D ;D

As for Radio Jones! I've never heard of him.  ;)

At one of the Strange TV re-unions Richard annouced he'd never been paid for his synth services.

Don't worry though TV got his own back. ;) ;D   
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on December 17, 2009, 01:57:17 PM
Christmas time is for special gifts. Enjoy these gems...

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1825.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12609848940001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1875.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12609852610001)

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(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_2218.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12609866430001)

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Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 17, 2009, 06:55:10 PM
Here's the full amazing gallery for the photo's above.

Watch them right now as this very special gallery of TV Smith photographs taken by a professional photographer is only on line for one month...

http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183 (http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_2232.jpg?derivative=medium&source=web.jpg&type=medium&ver=12609867810001)

"I stand between the two and it's great. IT'S GRREEEAAATTTTT!!!!"

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Thanks for the link, TJ. Some really nice shots in there.

email from Jamie Palmer Film Maker of Exploring Madness

My pleasure Jamie. I recall how much TV loved thes photo's when he first saw them.  8)
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 22, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
Don't you just love this gallery? I wish I could take photo's like these...

http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183 (http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183)

Can someone tell me the best way to copy these photo's onto a disc? I've not quite done that before.  
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: fleagle on December 22, 2009, 01:10:43 PM
I will post one to you TJ - easier than explaining ! lol ::)

fleags
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 22, 2009, 01:13:59 PM
That's two bits of Fleag magic today.

That makes you my TUTS hero of the month.  8)

Thank you.
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Uli on December 22, 2009, 01:34:53 PM
Many very good pics there! Thanks.  8)

I was going to say "ask the photographer to send you a disc", but it's even easier if fleagle does it!  :D
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 22, 2009, 01:38:03 PM
I'd already asked Ian, but instead he put them into a gallery so lots of other people could see them all for the very first time. :D

Fleags being a very good dog today.  :D :D :D  
Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 23, 2009, 07:01:47 PM
Great to read Stoner's story in issue 6 of Dave 'Ticket' Thompson's TV Times.

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"The Doctors of Madness, like the new york dolls, were one of the bands who find themselves treated like lepers throughout their careers, then, when its all over, magically become the band everybody saw/was into."

Dave Thompson


(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDSTO1.gif)

...Doctors Stoner the Frankenstein monster and Kid The Strange

Dave goes on to talk about the Doctors being one of the prime influences on punk... "It can only be proved to the individual by listening to the three excellent albums put out by the doctors during their three year lifespan."

This is the story of Stoner The Doctor. Who? You ask? Colin Stoner The Explorer and Colin Stoner the Sadista Sister. :o

Dave goes on to talk about how Kid Stange first met TV Smith. A story I hadn't heard before. :o

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)

...Dik Kid Strange and TV Smith drive the fans round The Bends at the last ever Doctors of Madness show in October 1978.

That part about the difference in ambition bewteen Kid & Stoner on one side and Blitz and Dilemmaon the other was new news to me and really interesting.

Much like Dave Sinclair in his TV Times interview, Stoner was so excited about joining The Explorers because he really rated TV and he loved how the band were all working together as one. 

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3111/3130647378_874a4c7ab6.jpg) 

...Erik Russell, Colin Stoner and TV Smith. Together Alone as one.

Erik Russell is in issue 7. Buy the TV Times disc to find out his story...
 
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TV TIMES - THE COMPLETE SERIES FOR SALE

Between 1980-1984, members of TV Smith's fan club received a free fanzine, running from two to twenty pages, for 43 issues.

The entire series has now been archived on CD, 357 black/white pages of text and images (.bmp) comprising a priceless 357 page archive not only of TV Smith, Adverts and TV Smith's Explorers news, interviews, reviews etc, but also a wealth of related artists... Richard Strange (including a 1981 interview), Doctors of Madness (including a complete band history), Lords of the New Church (three very early interviews, pre-first album), Ian Mitchell Band, Last Touch, many more.

Includes discographies, biographies, family trees, press cuttings, much more. Unpublished in any other form. Photos were taken from one of no more than three surviving complete sets, and reflect the occasionally haphazard photocopying that characterized the series - however, all are readable, while the bmp/bitmap format allows the user to print and reconfigure pages at will.

Disc also includes a couple of unpublished issues, and color originals of several covers.

PRICE $15 + shipping: $1 USA, $2 international.
Contact quatrmass@aol.com to reserve your copy and for payment details
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Title: Re: Fantastic Very Special Photo's of TV Smith - Your Xmas Gift from Tj and Ian
Post by: Tj on December 23, 2009, 07:21:02 PM
Hmm I've just remembered as I post the 367th post in this TV>Stoner>Kid theme, that my Doctors and TV Smith journey began when I spoke to Richard (and later TV) about doing a joint TV & Kid website. Fortunately for me (and you) Hugh Galland and Klaus Fleischer had already stepped up to the line. 8)

So folks think of this theme as Tj's TV & Kid Exploring Madness website. ;)

Your first task on this website is to check out these amazing photo's of TV, Stoner, Kid and err little old me living the dream...

http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183 (http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183)
 
Title: The Secret of the TV Smith & Kid Strange 'Raw Meat for the Missionaries' Demo's
Post by: Tj on December 24, 2009, 02:32:48 PM
I've just been reading the best TV Times so far. Issue 8 focuses on TV and The Adverts. Dave Thompson asked TV about the TV & Kid demo's.

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Dave Thompson: "Hey, Tim, will we ever get to here the other TV and Kid Strange demo's?"

TV Smith: "Well, I hope so, I'd hate to think of them being lost fprever. At the moment, though Kid's doing other things, and so am I, but I hope at some stage, we'll be able to get together, and do something with them."

You can buy the 43 issues of TV Times CD direct from Dave 'Ticket' Thompson... quatrmass@aol.com (http://quatrmass@aol.com)

After a few years I persuaded TV and Kid Strange to play some of the demo's again. I gave the demo's the 'Raw Meat for The Missionaries' title to help me in this goal. The first step was the 'Strange Bloody Xmas' show with TV and Kid gig in Leeds on 13.12.04.

The next step was the Exploring Madness TV, Kid & Stoner re-union show in Doncaster and Leeds on 10/11.09.06. Here Richard 'The Kid' Strange sold copies of the demo's with a great pic sleeve and my Raw Meat for The Missionaries title.

...I just wish he'd talked to TV about this first! Teev would have ensured the demo's were cleaned up in quality and they'd have both made more money out of these once hidden gems.

Those of you wanting to hear some of these great TV & Kid songs can check out these You Tube video's by Alan the Fat Bloater...  

Some Kind Of War: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGCohLt1zA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUGCohLt1zA)

Dance of Death: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5G2C4iqU4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cN5G2C4iqU4)

The Last Human Being (In the World): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5FFWTbfSI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU5FFWTbfSI)

The Big Break: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEg3hujYSjA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEg3hujYSjA)

Back From the Dead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCC3hjuApY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TPCC3hjuApY)

Here's a link to the great photo's from the shows: http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183 (http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183)



Title: Re: The Secret of the TV Smith & Kid Strange 'Raw Meat for the Missionaries' Demo's
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2009, 06:52:08 PM
Here's a quote from the Dave T Wake Up interview taht ties in with the above raw Meat For The Missionaries post...  

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TV: "I was still very excited about song-writing. I was using the mellow period preparing the second Adverts album to do some song-writing with Richard Strange from the Doctors of Madness, who were also getting near their break-up point. Whenever I had some spare time we'd put down some songs on 8-track and I felt that was much more creative than the end of the Adverts, I was really enjoying that. We never recorded it with any commercial purpose; that never entered into it. So that was keeping me going creatively and I'd started writing songs that I knew were not going to work with The Adverts. I was still up, still writing, but not knowing what I was going to do with it.
Title: Re: The Secret of the TV Smith & Kid Strange 'Raw Meat for the Missionaries' Demo's
Post by: Tj on December 30, 2009, 01:01:18 PM
My penultimate day of posting and I'm getting obsessed about TV and Kid's Raw Meat for the Missionaries demo's again...

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TV Smith: “As the group began to buckle under the strain of going from nought to sixty in a year, I´d been keeping the creative juices flowing by writing with Doctors Of Madness front man Richard Strange. Back From The Dead is the only song from this collaboration that ever came out.”
Title: The Legend That is STONER
Post by: Tj on July 16, 2011, 06:34:15 PM
When I look back at my life one memory will be right out at the top of the pile...

Watching and singing with TV Smith, Richard Strange and Stoner at the Exploring Madness gigs in September 2006.

I was really sad to hear from Colin 'STONER' Bentley last night that in May 2010 he had to have his left kidney removed, because of a very large tumour and that since then the cancer has migrated into his bones.

Colin was as optimistic as ever as he e-talked about still enjoying life and his love of music even though he has what he called a season ticket to the hospital car park.

He said it was okay and he can live with it.

Things like this and what happened to a good friend of mine last month really make you realise how precious live is.

Below are several video's of Stoner's latest project for you to enjoy...

http://thepullband.com/vid.htm (http://thepullband.com/vid.htm)

When he stayed at our place for the Exploring Madness he was such a joy to have around the house. He always makes me smile when I think of him then. When he arrived Colin had thoughtfully wrapped two antique brass beer taps as presents because he heard about my love of real beer. I remember Teev also being really touched by that.

Love you Colin.

The best dahn bass player in the world in my book.

Title: Re: Some Challening News About The Great Explorer Colin STONER
Post by: Nick on July 18, 2011, 02:16:04 PM
Sorry to hear about Stoner's health problems. Keeping positive is the best medicine though.
Thanks for sharing your memory Tj, they must of been great gigs.
Title: Re: Some Challening News About The Great Explorer Colin STONER
Post by: Tj on July 19, 2011, 06:53:50 PM
Real dream come true moments Nick.  These are a few from the first night at The Leopard in Doncaster...

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1715/web.jpg?ver=12611269760001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1718/web.jpg?ver=12611269870001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1720/web.jpg?ver=12611269990001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1726/web.jpg?ver=12611269840001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1730/web.jpg?ver=12611269930001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1731/web.jpg?ver=12611269810001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1825_2/web.jpg?ver=12611269780001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1870/web.jpg?ver=12611270000001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1875/web.jpg?ver=12611269750001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1933_2/web.jpg?ver=12611269890001)

(http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1/100183/DSC_1993/web.jpg?ver=12611269980001])


For both shows check out this awesome gallery...

http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1#100183&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=60 (http://gallery.me.com/igphotos1#100183&view=grid&bgcolor=black&sel=60)
Title: Re: Some Challening News About The Great Explorer Colin STONER
Post by: Nick on July 19, 2011, 08:52:45 PM
Wow! great pictures!
To this day I have not heard any Doctors of Madness music. I really should investigate them. No wonder I have no time for new music, there is so much older stuff I need to catch up on. Do you know that I listened to Patti Smith - Horses lp for the first time a couple of weeks ago. I have just got hold of The Pretty Things - Emotions & S.F. Sorrow lp's which I have not heard yet. So much music, so little time  ;D
Title: Re: Some Challening News About The Great Explorer Colin STONER
Post by: Tj on July 21, 2011, 11:19:23 AM
Nice one Nick.

There's just three albums by the Doctors. All three are in my best top twenty albums of all time list. Marie & Joe, Billy Watch out, Mailines, Waiting and Network are good songs to start with (you'll probably find them on You Tube).
 
TV and Gaye used to go see The Doctors in the South West and in London. They were fans before Tv became a writing, singing and performing partner.

Of course that leads us to the TV & Richard 'Kid' Strange Raw Meat for The Missionaries demo's. ;)

...Check out Some Kind of War, Dance of Death, Last Human Being and Big Break live on You Tube.  
Title: Re: Some Challening News About The Great Explorer Colin STONER
Post by: Nick on July 21, 2011, 12:03:55 PM
Cheers for that Tj. I just know that I will like their music when I get around to listening.
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on November 05, 2011, 06:31:32 PM
Did you ever check The Doctors of Madness out Nick?

I've just made a fantastic CD cover for my Doctors of Madness and Richard Strange Doc acoustic CD I made called In Brilliant Blue Gardens. When you look at the images small print you can see it's from some merchandise sent to Joe Elliott who was later in Deff Leppard.
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Nick on November 05, 2011, 08:27:07 PM
Yeah I did. I acquired their first album & liked it. So far I have not got around to getting the others. I will in time. ;)
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on December 09, 2011, 10:20:27 AM
Hey! That's fantastic news Nick. One of my top five albums of all time along with the 80's Demo's, March of the Giants, Coming in to Land and Halfnelson aka Sparks by Halfnelson aka Sparks.

The CD version of the third album, Sons of Survival, features TV and The Doctors live on stage at the Doctors last ever gig singing Last Human Being in the World. The photo in the sleeve notes from that gig was the inspiration for the 'Just Exploring Madness' Explorers and Doctors of Madness re-union tour with TV, The Kid and Stoner that I arranged back in September 2006.  

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/JustExploringMadness_small.jpg)
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Nick on December 09, 2011, 11:39:00 AM
It put me in mind of early Cockney Rebel, probably due to the violin, but that is no bad thing in my book.  :)
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on December 13, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
The Doctors of Madness and early Cockney Rebel were two of TV's favourites too.

Cracking first two albums until giant ego's took over.
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on December 16, 2011, 11:30:58 AM
I see the recently married Richard Strange is now selling downloads on his new website of such wonders as the TV Smith and Richard Strange penned Don't Panic England (lead vocals by Dave Vanian of The Doctors of Madness) and all the Raw Meat for The Missionaries songs by TV and The Kid.

Hopefully Richard's saving up TV's share to buy him an awfully elegant Cwistmas pwesent.  :-*   
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Fred21 on December 16, 2011, 05:59:09 PM
Many thanks for the tip TJ - that's my Xmas present to me sorted!
Title: Re: In Brilliant Blue Gardens - Just Exploring Madness with TV, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on January 28, 2012, 08:12:43 PM
My pleasure Fred The Pie. I alwsys new you'd hear it one day. :D

"We can do anything and that's teh wonderful thing."

Hmm that reminds me... I dared to dream again. 8)  
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid, Stoner & Gary Kemp!!!!
Post by: Tj on March 23, 2012, 05:38:22 PM
Thank you so much for this little gem Klaus.  :D

http://www.hibrow.tv/player.html?em=dpNWNtMzqYXDNbcaGJlGqUhCSfcY-b7X (http://www.hibrow.tv/player.html?em=dpNWNtMzqYXDNbcaGJlGqUhCSfcY-b7X)
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on April 06, 2012, 11:00:56 AM
Many thanks to Klaus. The Gary Kemp & Richard 'Kid' Strange video led me to a new interview with Strange which led me to discover that the original 1975 Doctors of Madness documentary film has been found. I know have watched it many times. Whilst the documentray was used to bury the band and take the rise out of the UK hyped up music industry and it's management we do get to see Britain's greatest ever band live on stage. And this is heaven sent. Oh! For a time machine.

Along with all the shots of The Doctors of Madness I loved seeing how much Bryan Morrison truly loved the band and their music. The majesty of Urban Blitz electic viola and the sublime bass playing of Stoner.

Kid Strange's acoustic version of Marie & Joe (the Worlds greatest ever love song) is a bonus delight.

Thank you Klaus.

Next up is the TV Smiith documentary. I watched my interview I did with Jamie for the documentary lst night. It always makes me smile.  
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on May 12, 2012, 10:13:34 AM
It's really kind of Richard & TV to give the TUTS a half price discount on Monday.

If we can get enough notice me and Smit are aiming to go to a Cabaret Futura event that features TV. Real shame we missed this one...

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Mon 14 May 12 LONDON - Cabaret Futura @ The Paradise 
TV's second appearance this year at Richard Strange's London club night. Expect the usual eclectic mix of artists. Cabaret Futura is at The Paradise, 19 Kilburn Lane, Kensal Rise, London W10 4AE. Doors open 7.45pm Show time 8.15pm. £10.00, TUTS price and concessions £5.00


I've been playing a lot of new TV, Exploring Madness and The Doctors of Madness recently. It's good to be back.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on May 17, 2012, 12:27:32 PM
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Great to hear this performed last night by TV with Richard Strange on 14th May 2012...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNI6osXaOdQ

Cheers Alan.  :D
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on May 19, 2012, 08:25:45 PM
Does that really say about 173,000 views. ...I thought it was just me?

With just a weeks  more notice me and Smit could have made it!  :-[     #

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"My thanks to all of you who made it along to Cabaret Futura this week.  It was one of the best ever, with my old friend of 35 years standing, the great TV Smith, tore the house down with his songs, old and new. 

What a joy to join  him onstage again for Back from The Dead. which we wrote together in 1977!!! 

Phil Philmar, Shit Theatre, Ginger Light, Jeremy Reed, Fynn Farrell and Natasha Stewart all dazzled with their artistry

The next Cabaret Futura will be on June 18th."
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Uli on May 21, 2012, 10:24:35 AM
Does that really say about 173,000 views. ...I thought it was just me?

Not wanting to disappoint you, but some numbers are a bit up because of the spambots which visited this forum...
Surely even without those, this has gotta be one of the most popular threads, being updated again and again over the years!  :)
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on May 26, 2012, 07:08:36 AM
That's great. Spambots is the nickname of the 'Exploring Madness' TV, Kid and Stoner fan club.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on May 26, 2012, 07:11:51 AM
From Mr Strange:

"My thanks to all of you who made it along to Cabaret Futura this week.  It was one of the best ever, with my old friend of 35 years standing, the great TV Smith, tore the house down with his songs, old and new. 

What a joy to join  him onstage again for Back from The Dead. which we wrote together in 1977!!! 

Phil Philmar, Shit Theatre, Ginger Light, Jeremy Reed, Fynn Farrell and Natasha Stewart all dazzled with their artistry

The next Cabaret Futura will be on June 18th."
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 01, 2012, 12:58:45 PM

Pinch me!!! I must be dreaming. Or am I Just Exploring Madness.

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The first programme traces the scene’s origins in mid-Seventies pub rock, going beyond bands like Dr Feelgood to uncover priceless footage of legendary oddballs such as Doctors of Madness and Ducks DeLuxe. During those pre-punk years, TV Smith, later the singer-songwriter for the Adverts, struggled to find a voice, like countless other future punk heroes, until the Sex Pistols opened the door for him.
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Post by: Tj on June 02, 2012, 12:36:19 AM
Great to hear the Strange one with the dome on TV's awesome documentary. 8)

The only problem with the documentary is that it was part one of a killer trilogy. ;)
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 02, 2012, 10:39:52 PM
How STRANGE was BBC4 this week-end? TV Smith's We Who Wait & #PunkBritania were ace.

...Was that a young @StrangeRichard in The Damned crowd?
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 16, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Richard Strange of The Doctors of Madness on the man diK The Kid described as "A Legend"...

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An evangelist. He harks back to the troubadour tradtion.

Richard Strange on We Who Wait
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 23, 2012, 05:23:53 PM
So pleased and proud that Jamie chose the Leeds Just Exploring Madness gig that I arranged as the grand finale for WE WHO WAIT.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Uli on June 23, 2012, 06:45:16 PM
Now I have a vague idea who could be cheering on at the end...
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 23, 2012, 06:59:14 PM
Yep it was lot's of we TUTS at the New Roscoe in Leeds. :D
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on July 02, 2012, 11:24:36 PM
Just found this one remaining on line Exploring Madness live at The Leopard photo of Ian's on my old My Space site...

(http://a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/32/e8823a146291b276ce033aacb7a16373/l.jpg)

Hard to believe TV's back playing at The Leopard in Doncaster in September. The place that dreams come true if you DARE TO DREAM them.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on July 07, 2012, 01:08:26 PM
Just introduced Claret to The Doctors of Madness.

And The Exploring Madness show and interview.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: claret999 on July 07, 2012, 03:20:37 PM
And very enjoyable it was too!!
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on October 09, 2012, 03:03:06 PM
Of course the great revalation at Earthbound Hope was finding out from TV who the first chosen replacement guitarist for Howard Pickup in The Adverts was.  :o

(http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/images/KIDAND1.gif)

(http://www.tvsmith.com/archives/gigpics/117g/images/1.jpg)
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on October 29, 2013, 09:25:34 PM
Yes, it's true. Richard Strange was the first named Adverts replacement guitarist for Howard Pick Up. Richard was also once given lead vocalist in The Dammed to replace the man he was Best Man for.

Which leads me in to how exciting it's been playing Raw Meat for The Missionaries again.

Torpedo is the TV Smith song that has grown most rapidly for me. Amazing lyrics. How did TV assess so much true wisdom at such an age?
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on April 18, 2014, 11:07:10 AM
You asked where to best post the TV, Kid and Stoner photo that inspired the Exploring Madness gigs I arranged in September 2006 Uli.

This is the place.

Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Uli on April 18, 2014, 02:56:29 PM
Ok, here it is (again):

(https://s-media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/6a/3c/90/6a3c9069e77c45d69a897d8beed8e3e8.jpg)

Check out:
https://www.pinterest.com/richardstrange/doctors-of-madness/
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on April 21, 2014, 12:18:58 PM
Thanks Uli.

That photo inspired me to dare to dream.

Then to live the dream.

To reform The Explorers and Doctors of Madness trio and sing live on stage with both bands (and co-brew the Elland Exploring Madness beer with Dave Sanders and Smit - who now also lives the dream by buying his favourite brewery).

Thank you "TV Smith, A Legend" Richard Kid Strange (my favourite all time singersongwriters)

And Colin Stoner (my favourite all time bass guitar player).

Dare to dream TUTS.

...Or are you "Just Exploring Madness". No Limits.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 07, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
I'm rather moved as you can see...

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Will you be kind enough to have a look at this Kickstarter project, http://t.co/Yt8unCEmVw and support it as best you can - not least because one of the elements we will featuring will be a reprise of Tom Waits's "November", from Black Rider, with the wonderful original musicians David Coulter, Kate St John, Terry Edwards all onboard.

Also I shall be reuniting a little band I had in the mid-seventies, for a one-off gig - their first together for 36 years!

Whatever support you can give will be hugely appreciated, and will go towards making sure that this ambitious enterprise succeeds in bringing Burroughs's work to a whole new generation of musicians and performers. 

Many thanks my dear friend. 

Much Love to you. 

Richard Strange."

richard@richardstrange.com

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If the main event is only 20 minutes, I guess there must be other performances to fill the evening. He says that The Doctors might be involved in the video...

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I'd have been heartbroken if I'd missed this. Even if it was just one song.

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It hasn't happened yet - get yer wallet out boy!

Oh, and see if you can find them a drummer while you're at it...

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I wonder if Tim or Dave Vanian will be involved?

Sounds like the original line-up to me:
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Also I shall be reuniting a little band I had in the mid-seventies, for a one-off gig - their first together for 36 years!

I can't imagine D.V. to be bothered.  
TV will play any gig he can get, as we all know.  

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I am delighted to announce the return of
The Doctors of Madness.
Ah! How I've longed to re-type those
words.
This time it will be more than the
dynamic duo of Strange & Stoner.
The Afterglow burns bright.
And no, I'm not Just Exploring Madness..
"hey Tim  
good to hear from you....  seems like
there's something in the air...!
have a look here:
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whaddya think?
very best to you and yours...."
Richard Strange 7.06.14.
"I'm rather moved, as you can see".
Richard Strange October 1978 AND Tj
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not sure if it will be all the original line up. Most likely it will be the final line up in October 1978.

I pray Urban Blitz will be part of the reunion.

He made the most beautiful sound I ever heard.

Sounds likely that Pete Dilemma will be on drums.

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The email I posted was the one that Richard sent to me this morning.

Thanks for the heads up Fred.
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Fred21 on June 07, 2014, 02:22:59 PM
This forum is getting worse than watching television - nothing but repeats!!!
Title: Re: Just Exploring Madness with TV, Tj, Kid & Stoner
Post by: Tj on June 07, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
Except that the Doctors haven't played together for 36 years.

No repeat.

What a wonderful day. Even the weather forecast flipped from thunder and rain to glorious sunshine.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 08, 2014, 12:00:15 PM
I hope everyone is okay with me moving the posts about The Doctors of Madness into World Chat.

I hope that's okay Uli.

I'll keep everyone in The TUTS and The AfterGlow (The Doctors of Madness fan club and forum) updated here.

This is a dream becoming true that even I didn't dare to dream.

Heaven sent.

Thanks Fred.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 08, 2014, 12:34:25 PM
The first big question to ask Richard 'Kid' Strange (the lead singer and songwriter from The Doctors of Madness) is which line up will be reforming.

There were three line ups and they all included...

Richard 'Kid' Strange (vocals and guitar)
Stoner (bass)
Pete Dilemma (drums)

They were the first three members and the final three members who played the final show in October 1978.

All the three glorious albums featured Urban Blitz on electric violin and guitars.

After Urban Blitz left the band he was briefly replaced by Dave Vanian on joint lead vocals.

The only other three people to ever share lead vocals with at least two Doctors of Madness were TV Smith, Twiggy and Tj Sundown.

The dream is for the reunion line up to include Urban Blitz.

Fingers firmly crossed.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on June 08, 2014, 01:58:41 PM
The only other three people to ever share lead vocals with at least two Doctors of Madness were TV Smith, Twiggy and Tj Sundown.

The dream is for the reunion line up to include Urban Blitz.

You might wanna start practising violin, just in case...  ;)

I hope everyone is okay with me moving the posts about The Doctors of Madness into World Chat.

I hope that's okay Uli.

I'm not quite sure, as it includes so many posts about TV (and the gigs they did together)... also there is still the other topic about the reunion (started by Fred).
We could keep this one in TV section, while updating on the new topic (and big important updates, like TV joining in, being mentioned in the other one too)...?  :-\
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Fred21 on June 08, 2014, 03:32:16 PM
The best place for any detailed consideration is clearly on The Doctors of Madness forum - unless or until TV gets involved!

Ahem, Mr Smith, Sir. Have you been asked to brush up on any late '70's songs you co-wrote recently? Go on, you can tell us TUTS...
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 08, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
World Chat was created to post about other bands.

I have kick started The Doctors of Madness forum to talk about the reunion.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Fred21 on June 08, 2014, 04:37:03 PM
Great stuff. I often talk about other bands that might be of interest to those of a TV-esque persuasion and I'm sure all the Doctors fans will have great fun on there!
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on June 09, 2014, 08:37:03 AM
World Chat was created to post about other bands.

Yes, it was. But here we have 25+ pages about a band TV had a 'strange' connection with...  ;)

(When re-reading the first page, though, I got to admit it fits World Chat best.)

Thus, my idea would've been to keep the topics where they were and updating the (new) reunion thread (and in case TV would be asked to join in, it still could be moved). But never mind, as you're the main contributor to both topics, let's leave them as they are.

(As long as the topic about TV & Strange & Stoner EB gig(s) is still where it belongs, in "TV Live", I'd say.)


I have kick started The Doctors of Madness forum to talk about the reunion.

Yes, you did, with this post copied into here?
http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=7142.msg67386#msg67386
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 10, 2014, 10:14:24 PM
Thank you Uli.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 13, 2014, 08:11:22 AM
All four original members are up for supporting Richard.

If anyone has any ideas for how to swiftly raise £7400 to make the reunion show happen please email tj@tvsmith.com
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Fred21 on June 13, 2014, 11:03:06 AM
I'd have thought you would have covered that from petty cash TJ!

Seriously, "holding the fans to ransom" like that is a bit off as this ISN'T a reunion show, but the debut of a Richard Strange project. It looks like the band isn't getting back together as it wants to play together again/headline its own show, but that its being used to fund the other project. It would have been better if they were playing their own show at a rock venue.

Yellow card I think!

(Who says I can't be topical!)

By the way, you said that all FOUR original members will support Richard? Does that include Twiggy? I hope so as I always had a "soft spot" for her - before I was even old enough to understand why!
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on June 13, 2014, 11:15:34 AM
It is good news that the original line-up is willing to do the show.

I'd have thought you would have covered that from petty cash TJ!

Yeah come on Tj, open your wallet, to make all the Doctors' fans happy!  ;)  ;D
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Fred21 on June 13, 2014, 11:19:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Gx8YIeJLsw
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 13, 2014, 07:20:21 PM
Yep! You got it Fred; it's Twiggy, Stoner, Urban Blitz and Peter Dilemma.

True guys. I'd be up for sorting out the show financially.

However, you can guarantee that Mrs Sundown would not be at all up for this so it will not be happening. 
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 13, 2014, 07:23:53 PM
So long as its not a red card Fred then it might still happen.  ;)

http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/ (http://www.doorag.f9.co.uk/doctorsofmadness/)

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Update June 2014

Doctors to reform for Burroughs night?

There's something behind those rumours, people. All parties have conditionally agreed, depending on targets being reached for Richard's upcoming Kickstarter-funded project, Language Is A Virus From Outer Space - 'a radical interpretation of the Life and Work of William Burroughs by two giants of their fields - Richard Strange and Gavin Bryars' which is scheduled for October 11th. More detail as I when I hear it! Kickstarter particulars here.

In the meantime, artist Lilias Buchanan has captured Strange on canvas rather impressively.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Fred21 on June 14, 2014, 02:16:43 PM
http://www.twiggylawson.co.uk/
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on June 14, 2014, 02:42:04 PM
http://www.twiggylawson.co.uk/

There's no mention of the Doctors of Madness on her website... someone is cheating on us here!

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Twiggy recorded her first studio album Twiggy in 1976
...
Twiggy continued to act in film and TV in the U.S. and U.K. with parts in "The Doctor and the Devils"...

well almost on-topic...  ::)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2014, 04:11:29 PM
Twiggy was the school nickname of Richard Harding aka Kid Strange aka Richard Strange aka Twiggy.  :-*
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 21, 2014, 02:07:27 PM
Do Dreams Really Come True?

Just £3K to go.

It's looking that this show might actually happen.

Let's all be The Doctors of Madness.

DARE TO DREAM: In 2006 I fulfilled my dream of reforming the line up of Richard Strange, Stoner and TV Smith for two Exploring Madness shows at Doncaster and Leeds. My dream became extra special when I sang The Servant with TV and Stoner from TV Smith's Explorers and lead vocals with Richard 'Kid' Strange and Stoner of The Doctors of Madness on the third verse of Suicide City. The Doctors of Madness are my favourite even UK band (TV Smith's Explorers are second). Sometimes dreams really do come true.

Thank you Richard 'Kid' Strange, Stoner, Urban Blitz and Peter Dilemma for making another dream come true.

I'M IN RICHARD.

Time to bring The Doctors of Madness BACK FROM THE DEAD.   
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on June 21, 2014, 02:08:59 PM
I didnt realise that you got free tickets and lots of goodies like a free DVD of the gig for your pledge, so feeling a lot better about how this event is being arranged now.  :)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on July 07, 2014, 05:16:02 PM
IT IS On.

From We Who Wait to Waiting.

Fancy going Teev?

Tj aka Kid Sundown
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on July 08, 2014, 02:43:50 PM
Surely all 186,486 views were not all me?

Who's going to the Doctors of Madness reunion?4
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on July 08, 2014, 04:13:16 PM
Surely all 186,486 views were not all me?

Ok, I'm guessing it's circa 180,000 spambots. 5000 regular viewers of the forum (not all registered or even posting), 466 registered users and 20 active forum members (many of us clicking this again and again with new replies, adding up to 1000 views)...  ;)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: TV on July 09, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
Check my gig list TJ  ;)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Rockula on July 09, 2014, 02:56:16 PM
So, this is Saturday 11th October?

I'll probably be at the Year Zero punk festival in Wakefield with TV, The Damned, The Beat, The Members, etc.

Shame about the timing.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on July 09, 2014, 07:06:19 PM
So, this is Saturday 11th October?

Good question. I looked through these posts here, no mention of the planned date at all.  ???
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Rockula on July 09, 2014, 07:33:43 PM
So, this is Saturday 11th October?

Good question. I looked through these posts here, no mention of the planned date at all.  ???

If you go to the Pledge page it seems to imply that date.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on July 10, 2014, 08:13:50 AM
If you go to the Pledge page it seems to imply that date.

Yes, that's the only place I found that date too. Bit "rare", considering the amount of posts on the reunion.  ;)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on July 14, 2014, 07:02:35 PM
Ah! The irony. I'll be leaving Yorkshire to watch the one gig reunion of The Doctors of Madness, whilst TV and Dave Vanian who both sang with The Doctors play a Punk gig a few miles from my home.

Don't Panic England.

Which reminds me, mega congratulations to Germany on deservedly wining The World Cup.

Tj :-)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on July 24, 2014, 01:04:33 PM
If someone had said to me a year ago that there was a chance of a mini Earthbound followed the next day by a region of the UK's greatest ever band. Yes, even better than TV Smith's Explorers and The Spiders From Mars! I'd have eaten my hat.

Fingers crossed Fleag.

Driving down to that London an idea about Earthbound came to me. We could have two types of Earthbound gigs to help TV make this concept work and have the best of both Worlds for all TV's new and old fans.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on August 03, 2014, 01:37:27 PM
I'll be leaving Yorkshire to watch the one gig reunion of The Doctors of Madness, whilst TV and Dave Vanian who both sang with The Doctors play a Punk gig a few miles from my home.

Quite fitting this topic, I found a blog/article (apparently based on the "Miniatures" compilation feat D.Vanian), in which there are photos/details about the wedding of Vanian & Laurie with R. Strange as best man:
http://www.morgan-fisher.com/miniatures/2014/07/22/m1-40-dave-vanian/

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For their marriage they were resplendent in full vampiric black outfits, particularly striking as it was held in one of the most boring, dreary city halls imaginable, located in Acton, West London, complete with boring, dreary councillor officiating. Richard Strange (singer of Doctors of Madness) was best man – at the last minute he was instructed that a tie was required, so he improvised with a page from a copy of Womens’ Own magazine found in the waiting room, stuck on with chewing gum:
(http://www.morgan-fisher.com/miniatures/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/Vanians_wedding2.jpg)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Rockula on August 03, 2014, 10:49:16 PM
Somebody keeps posting pictures of Dave and Laurie on the Unofficial Damned Nonsense FB page.

Have to say if someone kept posting pictures of me with my first wife I'd get pretty pissed off. :)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on August 04, 2014, 08:55:11 AM
Somebody keeps posting pictures of Dave and Laurie on the Unofficial Damned Nonsense FB page.

That's how I found this link posted above!

Have to say if someone kept posting pictures of me with my first wife I'd get pretty pissed off. :)

Don't think DV sees (m)any of those posts. Also, he would know that those pics exist, so what...
Btw, people also post pics of him and Patricia.  8)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on August 10, 2014, 04:32:30 PM
Had a message in from Richard that The Doctors of Madness reunion show is planned to be between 30 and 40 minutes long.

Rehersals are going well.

Getting excited.

We Who Wait. 8)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on August 16, 2014, 09:30:16 AM
Lot's of people talking about The Doctors of Madness reunion on Richard's three Facebook sites. Jeez that's more than me! Lol!  ;D
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on September 06, 2014, 07:06:08 PM
Just over one month to go to the mightly final leg of the Just Exploring Madness trilogy.

Dare to Dream.  8)
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on September 24, 2014, 07:23:45 PM
Tickets for just £15 now for this dream come true reunion gig.

Getting real excited. :D   
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on October 09, 2014, 08:13:37 PM
Real sorry you can't make the reunion Teev.

Have a great show in Wakefield.

Love to the fifth Doctor.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on October 12, 2014, 01:29:47 PM
It's looking like that was the final Doctors of Madness gig last night. Most of their greatest songs were played. Ace to hear Urban's electric violin again.

As for the rest of the show, I feel Fred was on the right track.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on October 13, 2014, 09:01:40 AM
Well, did you enjoy it (reunion and the other parts of the show)? Was it sold out?
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on October 15, 2014, 07:02:28 PM
Yes, I'd call it a sell out.

...On the ball as ever Fred.

Wonderful to meet The Afterglow, Stoner and Joe Elliott again.

Joe even got to sing 'my' song live with the Doctors of Madness.

Really special to see the electrifying Urban Blitz and the thuderous Silver Surfer on drums one last time.

First class set list (bar the missing Waiting encore). Couldn't have been better choices.

Now don't get me started on the audience, the venue and the rest of the show. The atmosphere wasn't Exploring Madness. Oh! For a pokey pub and ravining fans side by side by side singing along and hugging the returning heroes.

As for the rest. I DELETE.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on October 16, 2014, 12:06:58 PM
Yes, I'd call it a sell out.

Joe even got to sing 'my' song live with the Doctors of Madness.

First class set list (bar the missing Waiting encore). Couldn't have been better choices.

Thanks for the infos. Which one is 'your' song again?
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Tj on October 16, 2014, 06:56:46 PM
I sang Suicide City with Stoner and strange in 2006 and Joe sang it with the Doctors in 2014.
Title: Re: The Doctors of Madness 1974 to 2014
Post by: Uli on October 17, 2014, 09:11:22 AM
I sang Suicide City with Stoner and strange in 2006 and Joe sang it with the Doctors in 2014.

Very cool.  :)
Title: Re: Exploring Madness with TV Smith, Kid Strange, Stoner & Tj Sundown
Post by: Tj on November 08, 2014, 10:32:19 AM
It's good to see this post back home with TV Smith.

Wonderful to meet Colin Stoner again last month. :)

My favourite bass player in the world and a beautiful person to boot.
Title: Re: Exploring Madness with TV Smith, Kid Strange, Stoner & Tj Sundown
Post by: Tj on November 08, 2014, 10:32:54 AM
...Err, not that I'd want to kick Colin!
Title: Re: Exploring Madness with TV Smith, Kid Strange, Stoner & Tj Sundown
Post by: Tj on November 16, 2014, 01:48:19 PM
So sad to hear that Colin Stoner has just passed away. This changes forever the perspective of the reunion show last month.

Love you Colin.


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Wonderful to meet Colin Stoner again last month.

My favourite bass player in the world and a beautiful person.

Tj 8.11.14
Title: Re: Farewell Colin Stoner The Finest Bass Player Ever
Post by: Tj on November 21, 2014, 10:06:30 PM
Sounds like Joe Elliott is going to have a tribute to Stoner on his radio show.

Totally deserved.
Title: Re: Farewell Colin Stoner The Finest Bass Player Ever
Post by: Uli on November 22, 2014, 04:39:45 PM
Sounds like Joe Elliott is going to have a tribute to Stoner on his radio show.

Link service for anyone interested:
http://www.planetrock.com/on-air/joe-elliott/
http://www.planetrock.com/general/listening-online/
Title: Re: Farewell Colin Stoner The Finest Bass Player Ever
Post by: Gabumon on November 23, 2014, 07:28:03 PM
Just read this and it made me sad  :'(
Title: Re: Farewell Colin Stoner The Finest Bass Player Ever
Post by: TV on December 01, 2014, 11:18:30 AM
A very nice tribute in the obituary section of the Times today...
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/obituaries/article4283254.ece
Title: Re: Farewell Colin Stoner The Finest Bass Player Ever
Post by: Tj on December 01, 2014, 11:55:59 AM
I already have the new Explorers CD's in my car for my coaching journey down South this week.

You helped make my dream come true Colin (and Teev). I'll never forget those two very special days. ...And not just the gigs.

What a truly lovely man.   
Title: Re: TV Smith, Richard 'Kid' Strange & The Great Stoner are just Exploring Madness
Post by: Tj on December 14, 2014, 07:27:59 PM
Still gutted about Colin Stoner's passing away. And so soon after The Doctors of Madness reunion.

Below is an obtuary written my friend Jeremy from The Doctors of Madness fanclub.

Finally, here's some Doctors of Madness reunion photo's of Colin on his last ever live show. He looks so happy on the final photo from the reunion gig...


https://www.flickr.com/photos/128614427@N02/sets/72157648876613070/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/128614427@N02/sets/72157648876613070/)

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Obituary - Colin Bentley (Stoner) 1949 – 2014

Colin Bentley (Stoner) who died on November 14 was mainly known for being a founding member and bassist for both the Doctors of Madness and then TV Smith’s Explorers in the late seventies and early eighties.

The Doctors of Madness were formed in 1974 in Twickenham by singer, guitarist and songwriter Richard (Kid) Strange and drummer Peter diLemma.  They recruited Stoner on bass and Urban Blitz on guitar and violin.  Richard Strange described Stoner as “the best bloke I have ever had in the band. He knows what it is about. And you should see him on stage. Weird!”.  This last comment refers to the skinny t-shirts and skeletal makeup that Stoner’s wife Elaine applied to him rather heavily before each show.

The Doctors of Madness, who were once described as “a bit like the Velvet Underground but in 3D colour” released three studio albums, Late Night Movies All Night Brainstorms, Figments of Emancipation and Sons of Survival all of which were critically accliaimed but not commercially successful.  Stoner played bass on all of these as well as providing backing vocals.  He also sang lead vocal on one song, No Limits from Sons of Survival and live also took over lead vocals on the Velvet Underground cover What Goes On.

Stoner’s melodic bass playing helped put the colour into the band and together with Kid Strange’s blue hair, Urban Blitz’s army fatigues and Peter diLemma’s surfer dude bleached hair, his bizarre stage makeup helped further their edgy stage image.  His playing can best be heard on the classic track, Marie and Joe, where Stoner’s bass solo provides a superb melodic break in the middle of the song before a wild guitar solo from Urban Blitz.

The Doctors of Madness broke up in 1978 and Stoner then joined TV Smith’s Explorers, playing on their near hit Tomahawk Cruise and first and only album, The Last Words of the Great Explorer.  Again, Stoner was an integral part of the band until their break up in 1981.

Stoner was also in demand as a session musician.  His work included playing bass with the Sadista Sisters, incorporating the role of musical director.  He also did studio session work, playing on singles for the band Exit, and with Daedalo, making a five track CD Walk Inside the Painting, playing a five string fretless bass guitar.

Stoner and his wife Elaine moved from London to Worcestershire in the late 1980s, where Stoner maintained a musical interest, playing with local bands and gigging with Nigel Kennedy as well as a playing at a pair of Exploring Madness reunion gigs with Richard Strange and TV Smith in 2006. His last band was Malvern-based “The Pull” who recorded a five song EP The Magnets which is available through Bandcamp.

Stoner was re-united with both Richard Strange and TV Smith for two re-union gigs called Exploring Madness in Yorkshire in September 2006. Stoner played bass and sang backing vocals on Explorers songs with TV and Doctors of Madness songs with Richard, before all three united to play three 'Raw Meat for The Missionaries' demo's written by TV and Richard in the late seventies.  

The final chapter in Stoner’s musical life came sadly in October where Stoner performed once again with the Doctors of Madness at the London Southbank Centre as part of Richard Strange’s tribute to William Burroughs: Language is a Virus from Outer Space.  It was the first time the full original band had played together for 36 years and although Stoner was frail, the band put on an outstanding “greatist hits” set showing how underrated and ahead of time they were in the seventies.

Stoner leaves behind his wife Elaine, daughter Lauren and grandson Reuben and a wide and longstanding musical legacy.

Jeremy Smith (The Afterglow - Doctors of Madness)
Title: Re: Final Photo's of Colin Stoner at his last ever gig (with The Doctors of Madness)
Post by: Fred21 on July 12, 2016, 12:30:36 PM
Looks like another good night for TJ:

"So - Cabaret Futura is in overdrive!! Shows this week are:

Hastings Art Car Boot Fair...Saturday 16th 12.00-16.00
The Stade, next to Jerwood Gallery, Hastings.
Featuring Sarah Jane Morris, Band of Holy Joy, Martin Creed, Paul Sakoilsky,Geraldine Swayne and ウケイ マキコ !!!!

Portobello Green Summer Festival..Sunday 17th 16.45- 20.00
Acklam Village, Acklam Road, London, W11
Featuring Joe Joe Alban Bernie, KRÍA, Alexa Mullins and Coldredlight (Free Entry)

The Paradise...Monday 18th 20.00-23.00
19, Kilburn Lane, Kensal Rise, London, W10 4AE

Who's playing?? Now that would be telling....but if you like Doctors of Madness you might have a good evening...! The last show of the summer……please come along to drown our sorrows!"

Anyone remember TJ?
Title: Re: Final Photo's of Colin Stoner at his last ever gig (with The Doctors of Madness)
Post by: Alan on July 12, 2016, 02:13:45 PM
who?