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Title: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 14, 2008, 12:31:52 PM
Lou Reed joins Moby on stage at SXSW

My Morning Jacket, Thurston Moore also pay tribute to Reed

A star-studded tribute to Lou Reed at South by Southwest tonight (March 13) culminated with Reed and Moby performing an extended jam of the Velvet Underground man's classic tune 'Walk On The Wild Side'.

The veteran rocker was honoured by a total of 11 acts including Sonic Youth's Thurston Moore & The New Wave Bandits, My Morning Jacket, Yo La Tengo, Dr. Dog, Joseph Arthur and Oh No! Oh My!

Each band performed one or more seminal tracks by Reed or the Velvet Underground to celebrate the release of the new film 'Berlin', which chronicles Reed's historic five-night stint in 1973 at St Ann's warehouse in Brooklyn where he performed the album 'Berlin' in its entirety.

None of the bands got particularly sentimental during the two-and-a-half hour tribute at the Fader Fort, saying little more than "Thank you" or "It's an honour to be a part of this," during their performances.

Still the crowd remained enthusiastic, even after queuing for hours to get inside the venue.

Moby, the last act on the bill, commended the audience on their endurance before launching into the Velvet Underground's 'Femme Fatale' with a full band and a trio of female vocalists.

Then Reed himself joined Moby on stage to sing and play guitar, and the crowd went wild. At the end of the song, the audience cheered for several minutes. Reed raised his fists in the air and said, "I love punk rock and I was the first one."
The bands played:

What Laura Says Thinks And Feels - 'Run Run Run'
Paper Route - 'Vanishing Act'
Oh No! Oh My! - 'Sunday Morning', 'Candy Says'
Yo La Tengo - 'She's My Best Friend', 'I Found A Reason'
Ezra Furman & The Harpoons - 'Heroin', 'New Age'
Mark Kozelek - 'Caroline Says', 'The Kids'
'My Morning Jacket - 'Head Held High', 'Oh! Sweet Nuthin'
Joseph Arthur - Pale Blue Eyes, 'Venus In Furs'
Dr. Dog - 'Who Loves The Sun', 'Ride Into The Sun'
Thurston Moore & the New Wave Bandits - 'I'm Not A Young Many Anymore'
Moby - 'Walk On The Wild Side', 'Femme Fatale' (with Lou Reed)
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 14, 2008, 09:30:30 PM
Was Lou the first?

Who was?

Lou Reed and The Velvet Underground?

The Kingsmen / U.S. Garage Rock?

The Stooges?

MC5?

New York Dolls?

Richard Hell/Television?

The Ramones?

The Sex Pistols?

Any thoughts???
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on March 15, 2008, 09:15:27 AM
Certainly the Velvet Underground were there before MC5 and The Stooges (as far as I know)...
They didn't call it "punk" then (though that name appeared for certain garage rock bands in the late 60's and was then re-used from about 1975 on). Certainly VU, MC5 and Stooges plus loads of rather unknown garage bands had a big influence on the Punk bands of 1977.
Really difficult to say who was "first". NY Dolls, Ramones etc. existed before the UK "scene"... But it was the UK where Punk "exploded", so much that bands like Heartbreakers (and Saints) moved over.

Guess it will be an eternal discussion about who was first. Just like when you start getting into "who invented rock'n'roll?"...
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: jock on March 15, 2008, 12:47:05 PM
probably loads of people can claim the 'punk' banner for themselves eh ..from the 60's too ...

who can tell who was or wasnt 'punk' ..i personally hate the whole idea of people arguing over who is or isnt punk ..it annoys me  ,  seeing how the messages in the songs are the same, so who cares .

all i can say is that to me , i liked the whole UK old school scene the best, the Pistols were the most famous of the lot but there were so many band around at that time .... i think the Pistols won that race to the top ....   im happy to have been around for the UK scene starting to gather pace in the 70's so to me that was the era of the true punk bands ..and my favourites were mainly from the UK scene .

long live punk rock ..

 8) 

Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 15, 2008, 02:29:47 PM
Nice replies guys - and I agree with both of you - loads of good points.

Mind you, its kind of killed the "Who was first" debate...!!!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on March 15, 2008, 04:41:02 PM
Ok, we should be nice to elderly people - let's say Uncle Lou was the first!  :P  ;)
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 15, 2008, 04:55:14 PM
No!

We want debate!!!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Rockula on March 16, 2008, 05:59:10 PM
Lou Reed's a tosser and The Velvet Underground were over rated junkies. Discuss. ;D
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Alan on March 16, 2008, 07:53:17 PM
A vote is called for I think.....

http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/index.php?topic=4591.0
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 16, 2008, 08:15:24 PM
Lou Reed is great - go see "Berlin" live this summer!

The Velvets could be really great at times and virtually unlistenable at others.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on March 17, 2008, 10:36:17 AM
Lou Reed's a tosser and The Velvet Underground were over rated junkies. Discuss. ;D

I said: BE NICE to elderly people!!!! Tut, tut...  :P  ;D
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on October 27, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
Bye Uncle Lou - I'll miss you loads.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on October 29, 2013, 12:12:09 PM
http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/5770623/lou-reed-remembered-by-blondies-debbie-harry-chris-stein-his-hypnotic-voice
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Tj on October 29, 2013, 09:11:23 PM
Miss you too Fred.

You going to Derby?

Walk on the Wild side.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on December 14, 2013, 05:02:26 PM
Lou tribute tomorrow:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b03m81dj

"Film tribute to Lou Reed, who died in October, which looks at the extraordinarily transgressive life and career of one of rock 'n' roll's true originals.

With the help of friends, fellow musicians, critics and those who have been inspired not only by his music but also by his famously contrary approach to almost everything, the documentary looks at how Reed not only helped to shape a generation but also helped to create a truly alternative, independent rock scene, while also providing New York with its most provocative and potent soundtrack.

With contributions from Bob Ezrin, Mick Rock, Lenny Kaye, Paul Auster, Moe Tucker, Boy George, Thurston Moore, Andrew Wylie, Victor Bockris, Holly Woodlawn, Mary Woronov and Steve Hunter."


Also repeats of Bowie/John Cooper Clarke shows later if you fancy a night in front of the box.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on February 28, 2014, 01:15:34 PM
http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?H=Lou-Reed-tribute-to-go-ahead-at-SXSW&nItemID=76541
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on February 19, 2015, 03:41:14 PM
Gotta love Uncle Lou's taste!

http://www.music-news.com/shownews.asp?H=Lou-Reed:-I-never-liked-The-Beatles&nItemID=87330

Gawd, I miss that man.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on February 25, 2015, 01:25:41 PM
Gawd, I miss that man.

Here's something for you, I found in an interview with Reeves Gabrels (this part is about Bowie's 50th birthday gig):
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The fun part was working with Lou Reed, because they were all afraid of Lou, but once he hazed you and you stood up to him, he became like your old uncle. He would say, “I’m always up, just call me anytime. I don’t sleep anymore. If you need anything just call, here’s my number.” If you watch the birthday show you will see us laughing, because as we were walking on he said, “If I blow anything, just kick me in the ass.” I said, “Lou, I am not going to kick you in the ass in front of a New York audience.”
http://www.guitarmoderne.com/artists/the-ultimate-reeves-gabrels-interview
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on February 25, 2015, 02:25:21 PM
Thanks Uli!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on April 20, 2015, 01:00:33 AM
http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/84673

http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/84662
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on April 21, 2015, 03:47:18 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/84725
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on October 15, 2015, 04:30:26 PM
Lou Reed biographer on controversial new book: 'You can list his faults but he was a great artist'

http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/89020

I hate these chancers that write these "warts and all" biographies AFTER their subject has died. I think everyone that knows anything about Lou knew that he was a "difficult" man at times - even to his adoring audiences.

And as for the Bob Dylan story, I think that most people also know that Lou was Jewish and referred to it in his work.

What a waste of paper!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on February 17, 2016, 11:05:51 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-35595635

Sounds just like the "Metal Machine Music" live 'gig' I saw shortly before he died.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 17, 2016, 11:02:05 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/laurie-anderson/92362
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on April 13, 2016, 01:47:41 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/92926
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on May 18, 2016, 01:26:29 PM
http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/93625
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on July 29, 2016, 02:58:26 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/28/loue-reed-the-bells-lincoln-center-new-york-laurie-anderson

http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/95319
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on July 31, 2016, 11:58:30 AM
http://www.nme.com/news/lou-reed/95346

A far more fitting tribute than that awful "Bowie Prom":

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/jul/30/bowie-by-proms-review-progressiveness-for-progressiveness-sake

We gave up on it half way through. If Marc Almond's a singer, I'm a supermodel!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on September 15, 2016, 08:47:43 AM
Hm, not a very nice write-up about Lou...
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That's how Lou Reed's career went. He was never happy; there was always something to attack. Humanity brought out the worst in him, and he returned the favor. His peremptory demands, imperious and selfish nature, abruptly withdrawn support or mentorship, inconsistent vision, and overall inability to play well with others made his life a checkered history of failed alliances and artistic misfires.
http://www.vulture.com/2016/09/lou-reed-velvet-underground-c-v-r.html

But maybe, just maybe, more honest than just singing his praises...?  :-\
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on September 15, 2016, 12:38:51 PM
Great find, great read.

I never knew that Bill Wyman had such a knowledge of Lou. I have to agree with much of what he writes (especially about the mullet!), but he seriously undervalues Magic and Loss, Set the Twilight Reeling and The Raven - his loss.

I wish Bill had mentioned something about their meetings as I'm sure that their paths must have crossed several times.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on September 15, 2016, 02:32:59 PM
Great find, great read.

Ha ha, strange - I thought you might dislike that one!  :o

Great sentence btw:
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Younger readers will want to know that "CDs," or "compact discs," were once the music industry's vehicle of choice, before the technological advances that brought us the LP vinyl record
;D
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on September 15, 2016, 04:34:44 PM
Yes, very witty!
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on February 14, 2017, 11:01:13 PM
https://medium.com/@LegacyRecordings/lou-reed-in-his-own-words-6c230b0f4b16?cid=nl47693&lf=f39c3341b693ccf52e34a82577115168#.badix3p1o
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 10, 2017, 05:32:09 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/03/arts/music/laurie-anderson-on-lou-reeds-love-work-and-retirement-plan.html?cid=nl51434&utm_medium=email_SFMC&utm_source=6383315&utm_campaign=email-51434-2017310&utm_content=nllink-1915673-LouReed_News_NYT%20Archive&_r=0
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: slaughterboy on March 10, 2017, 05:49:19 PM
Old punks never get the chance to retire  :)
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on August 13, 2017, 01:32:16 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/aug/09/the-velvet-underground-10-of-the-best
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: slaughterboy on August 13, 2017, 07:47:03 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/musicblog/2017/aug/09/the-velvet-underground-10-of-the-best

Mostly agree with the list, although I'd probably add 'Jesus' and 'The Gift' in place of 'Rock & Roll' and 'Sweet Jane', much as I like both of those tracks
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on August 13, 2017, 09:46:57 PM
I know what you mean - there are so many belters to chose from.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: GJ on August 16, 2017, 12:43:16 PM
Waiting for the man very over rated. Don't know 'Sunday Morning'. No 'Lisa Says'?
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on October 02, 2017, 08:19:49 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/oct/01/my-brilliant-troubled-friend-lou-reed-a-life-anthony-decurtis-berlin
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: slaughterboy on October 02, 2017, 10:09:20 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/oct/01/my-brilliant-troubled-friend-lou-reed-a-life-anthony-decurtis-berlin

Never fails to amaze how journos never miss an opportunity to remind us that Lou was a bit difficult to interview, like we didn't know!  ::)

Still... the piece does remind me of the fact that, unlike the majority of critics and fans in 1973-1974, me and Slaughterboy Snr really bought into the grinding misery that was 'Berlin', detailing, as it did, the acrimonious breakdown of a relationship: quite poignant for an 11yr old me and my 15yr old brother whose parents had just split in less than great circumstances.

I think a few friends and family were more than a little concerned about what my obsessive listening to Uncle Lou's bleeding heart lyrics would do to my fragile, pre-teen mind.

Probably with very good reason!  ;)

Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on October 02, 2017, 10:38:01 PM
It is a classic album and I hope it helped you at the time. Did you see him tour it live later in his career? I saw it performed in London and then later in Nottingham when he had original guitarist Steve Hunter playing. By then Steve's glaucoma was so bad that he was led on and off stage, but he doesn't need to see his fretboard!

His "Magic and Loss" album about the deaths of two friends came out just after I lost my Dad and I played it constantly at the time and still love it too.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: slaughterboy on October 03, 2017, 04:01:09 AM
Didn't bother going to see any of his late career performances and, in a way, I'm glad I didn't. I always felt happier with a strong memory, rather than watch a watered down version in reality.

What really put me off was the BBC appearance when he did Perfect Day accompanied by a bloke in red pyjamas doing a ridiculous little dance which, bearing in mind his truly rock 'n' roll past, had me fumbling for the remote in order that I could expunge the embarrassing spectacle of it as soon as possible.

Lou Reed and Tai Chi? Not for me.
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: slaughterboy on October 03, 2017, 04:03:02 AM
Do like 'Magic And Loss' btw  :)
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on November 27, 2017, 03:20:11 PM
BBC Book of the Week - Lou Reed: A Life

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09gfbc4
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on March 04, 2018, 07:13:39 PM
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2018/mar/02/lou-reed-lost-poetry-to-be-published
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Fred21 on April 03, 2019, 07:34:44 PM
Lou Reed Archive Opens:

https://www.nypl.org/loureed?cid=nl174263&utm_medium=email_SFMC&utm_source=6383315&utm_campaign=email-174263-201943&utm_content=nllink-6154550-LouReed_News_NY+Public+Library
Title: Re: "I love punk rock and I was the first one" - Lou Reed
Post by: Uli on May 31, 2019, 01:39:59 PM
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Nils Lofgren's latest album, Blue With Lou, contains five previously-unreleased songs he co-wrote with Lou Reed. The album serves not only as a fitting tribute to his late friend and collaborator but a reminder of Lofgren's prowess as a guitarist, songwriter, bandleader, and vocalist.

The backstory? In 1978 Lofgren was working on his album Nils with producer Bob Ezrin (Alice Cooper, KISS, Pink Floyd). The former Grin member had written a handful of tunes with six-string wunderkind Dick Wagner, but there was still a missing element. Ezrin, who'd produced Reed's classic Berlin effort, suggested a meeting with the Velvet Underground maestro. The trio watched football, then talked shop. Lofgren didn't feel his words were his greatest strength; Reed, who could turn a street hustler's toothpick into a novellike set of lyrics, constantly fussed over the music.

Lofgren slipped his newfound friend a tape with 13 tunes, wondering if there'd be synergy. In the wee hours of the morning, some weeks later, Reed woke Lofgren up with a phone call and dictated a set of lyrics for each of the musical numbers. Reed ultimately used three of the tunes for his 1979 set The Bells; Lofgren used some songs for Nils. Others showed up over the next 20-plus years.

https://www.popmatters.com/nils-lofgren-blue-with-lou-2637748783.html