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Title: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on November 21, 2009, 06:31:08 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v222/davefm/creepsclassicrock.jpg)

Not quite what you were expecting TUTS?

Hmm speaking of Sleaze I wonder if we'll get to here Piss Artists at our EARTHBOUND 2010 piss up in the brewery?   
Title: Re: Ready to Witness SLEAZE?
Post by: Uli on November 22, 2009, 12:24:39 PM
Nice one. TV played with the Creeps, so it's still relevant in TV Chat.  :)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 13, 2009, 12:24:42 PM
Thank you Uli. :D Not so Slaby. ;) ;D ;D ;D

I loved reading about Slaby Witness and Sleaze on pages 10 to 13 in Your Ticket Out Of Here.

GET IT NOW to find out the full story TUTS.

I so know what you want to wish clearly for this Xmas Bloody Xmas.  ;)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2009, 07:32:36 PM
Here's TV talking about his first band, Slaby Witness, in Wake Up...  

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I borrowed my first guitar from the village Sunday school, which had been donated this old guitar and kids could borrow it one at a time and take it home with them. I borrowed it and kept it. My brother taught me a few chords and I learned a few chords out of guitar books. I could never play very well but I found if I worked slowly I could play enough to write my own songs on it. I put a band together at school when I was about 16 and we played in lunch hours and every now and then in music lessons and back rooms when we supposed to be learning theory or something. It was our version of a rock band. And then we went to the great heights of hiring village halls and putting on our own gigs there. Our first real gig was at Belstone Village Hall. That really set me on the road to being interested in being in bands; I could use it as a way to write my own stuff.


Here's TV talking Sleaze in Wake Up..

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TV: Then I went on to Torquay to do a year at art college, a foundation course. I formed another band there pretty much straight away. By this time I'd discovered the New York Dolls and so it was the influence of that and also a bit of the glam stuff that was going on. I was really into David Bowie at the time, his Ziggy Stardust tour was one of the greatest gigs I'd ever seen. There was another glam band called Cockney Rebel, they were one of the few bands that came down to the west country, and Doctors of Madness, Heavy Metal Kids. We didn't get most of the bands who were on the circuit down there, so when one did play there it was really quite important, the gigs were pretty special to start with. I met Gaye at college and we started formulating plans for a band, which would have been about 1975, I
suppose.


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TV: Sleaze actually recorded an album, pressed up 50 copies ourselves to give to friends, and it's a long long way from what I was doing a year later, for sure. For a start everything sped up a great deal. I don't think I'd ever realised how fast it was going to be until we started playing it with a bunch of people. I'd actually written the songs quite a bit slower. And the other big difference was the lyrics. With Sleaze they were just a stream of consciousness that didn't really mean anything. Like the worst elements of glam, it sounded like poetry but it wasn't.
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Gabumon on December 30, 2009, 12:16:33 AM
damn that they is nothing left from Slaby Witness, no recordings, no songs
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 30, 2009, 10:20:54 AM
True, not even any Slaby song titles, but I bet Belstone Village Hall is still standing.

I might just seek it out on my next trip to the South West. ;) ;D
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 30, 2009, 10:29:18 AM
Good old Google.

So here it is for the first time ever TUTS.

Belstone Village Hall, the exact location of the first ever gig by TV Smith.

I wonder if they have a plague on the wall.  ;) ;D ;D ;D

(http://www.belstonevillage.net/images/directory/villagehallsign_150.png)

(http://www.devonvillagehalls.co.uk/images/halls/101_Village%20Hall%20front%202008.jpg)

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:hLR6bMY9OKkBXM:http://image59.webshots.com/59/0/59/30/2136059300061009850teQGmB_ph.jpg)

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Originally built in 1910 as the Church Room, the building became the Village Hall in 1957.  A new foyer and toilets (including an accessible toilet) were completed in 2000; a new kitchen was added in 2005; and a new meeting room, a second accessible toilet and various store rooms were built in 2008.  The Man Hall has seating for 150 and has a raised stage with associated lighting at one end for theatrical productions and live music from local bands like the now famous Slaby Witness.
 
 http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.belstonevillage.net/images/directory/Village%2520Hall%2520sign_80.png&imgrefurl=http://www.belstonevillage.net/&usg=__CQtWY29RCSbuE826W1oWcgJWMVU=&h=53&w=80&sz=52&hl=en&start=7&sig2=5e7usFUKlGQZWWlgZiR5UA&um=1&tbnid=kvk-hQmEs5kXYM:&tbnh=49&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbelstone%2Bvillage%2Bhall%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7ADBR_en-GB%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=jBs7S_rlAdLAjAfM3OGmDg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.belstonevillage.net/images/directory/Village%2520Hall%2520sign_80.png&imgrefurl=http://www.belstonevillage.net/&usg=__CQtWY29RCSbuE826W1oWcgJWMVU=&h=53&w=80&sz=52&hl=en&start=7&sig2=5e7usFUKlGQZWWlgZiR5UA&um=1&tbnid=kvk-hQmEs5kXYM:&tbnh=49&tbnw=74&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbelstone%2Bvillage%2Bhall%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7ADBR_en-GB%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=jBs7S_rlAdLAjAfM3OGmDg)

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.devonperspectives.co.uk/belstone/telegraphoffice200.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.devonperspectives.co.uk/belstone_village.html&usg=__ZN6obTn4lm-dXGMtrUL48JBe9aI=&h=200&w=176&sz=44&hl=en&start=16&sig2=DYBOrdTQ3pt73JTBSwxxnQ&um=1&tbnid=XVx0mrd4qVk25M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbelstone%2Bvillage%2Bhall%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7ADBR_en-GB%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=jBs7S_rlAdLAjAfM3OGmDg (http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.devonperspectives.co.uk/belstone/telegraphoffice200.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.devonperspectives.co.uk/belstone_village.html&usg=__ZN6obTn4lm-dXGMtrUL48JBe9aI=&h=200&w=176&sz=44&hl=en&start=16&sig2=DYBOrdTQ3pt73JTBSwxxnQ&um=1&tbnid=XVx0mrd4qVk25M:&tbnh=104&tbnw=92&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dbelstone%2Bvillage%2Bhall%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-Address%26rlz%3D1I7ADBR_en-GB%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1&ei=jBs7S_rlAdLAjAfM3OGmDg)

(http://www.devonperspectives.co.uk/belstone/telegraphoffice200.jpg)

I wonder if this was where TV's first guitar was borrowed from...

(http://herridge.co.uk/bv/Images/dscf0068.jpg)




Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 30, 2009, 10:51:25 AM
Sorry I couldn't resist slipping that line in.  :-[
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 30, 2009, 12:48:12 PM
This Big Untidy interview with TV is interesting...

http://www.biguntidy.com/Articles/TVSMITHDiscographyPart1.pdf (http://www.biguntidy.com/Articles/TVSMITHDiscographyPart1.pdf)

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SLEAZE:
Tim Smith (vocals), Andy Bennie (bass), Buzz Chanter (guitar), Stuart Guest (guitar), Dave Heath (drums)
Sleaze (50 copies only. No label or cat.no, LP) July 1975
Side 1: 1.Showbiz Kid 2.Dum De Dum 3.Piss Artist
Side 2. 1.Hollywood 2.Listen Don´t Think
Big Untidy: “Who were Sleaze?”
TV Smith: “Sleaze were the band that came before The Adverts. I formed them when I moved to Torquay to study art for a year at the polytechnic, recruiting Andy Bennie, the bass player from my school band Slaby Witness, who´d also moved to Torquay to study art. We found a few other musicians, began rehearsing some songs I´d written and played a few gigs in local clubs, schools, pubs, and on one occasion – our only brush with celebrity – supported George Melly at the Tech´s 1974 Christmas party. Towards the summer we had enough songs to record an album and went into a local studio – getting a day´s session and 50 copies of the result on vinyl for an all-in-one price (about 40 pounds) and gave the records out to friends and family.”
Big Untidy: “Didn´t one of the Sleaze tracks later became an Adverts song?”
TV Smith: “The song I took with me to rework for The Adverts was originally called Listen Don´t Think – and ended up as Newboys.”

Big Untidy: “Is it likely the Sleaze album will get released on CD?”

TV Smith: “I have absolutely no plans to reissue the Sleaze record.”
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on August 16, 2010, 03:24:41 PM
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TV's interview with John Robb - so will that Sleeze album get released?!

(http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs134.ash2/40016_419551307843_537407843_4968115_2462099_n.jpg)

Taken by Alan at Rebellion 2010

You having a pop at my smelling?

What did John Robb and TV say about the Sleaze album, Alan?  
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Rockula on August 16, 2010, 05:18:49 PM
What did John Robb and TV say about the Sleaze album, Alan? [/color]


It was actually TV saying he wasn't embarressed by Sleaze, it was of it's time, and a release of the album was possible due to the interest shown by fans.
 Not a definite but a definite maybe.
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on August 27, 2010, 09:34:26 AM
Thanks DJ. More substance to the rumours then. Bring it on.  8)

I agree its of its time. Dave Thompson talks about the Diamond Dogs and Cockney Rebel influence.

I hope Teev uses that bondage Sleaze gig advert for the cover. Sleaze indeed. :o
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on August 27, 2010, 11:08:21 AM
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SLEAZE – white label/no cat #, July 1975
7501 Showbiz Kids
7502 Dum De Dum
7503 Piss Artists
7504 Hollywood
7505 Listen Don't Think

A limited edition of 50 copies was pressed and distributed amongst friends
and family in a plain white sleeve.

“We did the Sleaze album in June 1975,” Andy Bennie recalled. “It was the first
time any of us had ever been into the studio; I’d only been playing bass about
eight months, I’d been playing guitar before that. We did the whole thing in two
hours, completely live, no overdubs or anything. The guy who mixed it was a
BBC engineer, he did a really amazing job on it.” Total cost -  38.88, including
VAT.

Though clearly a child of its time – Diamond Dogs era Bowie, Cockney Rebel’s
Psychomodo and the Doctors of Madness can be numbered among its sonic
contemporaries
– Sleaze is also a shockingly far-sighted disc, and not only
because one song, “Listen Don’t Think,” would be revived by the Adverts as
“Newboys.”
The interplay between rhythm and melody puts one in mind of an extravagant
Television (“Signals,” from the band’s live set, is “Marquee Moon” two years early),
while Smith’s lyrics pack a decadent edge that would not come into fashion for
another five years or more. “Hollywood,” in particular, remains one of the most
overwhelming songs, both lyrically and musically, he has ever penned.

Dave Thompson

For the full story on Sleaze (and Slabby Witness check out Your Ticket Out Of here and the 30th Anniversary edition of TV Times books by Dave Thompson. A must buy for any fan of TV.

Bring on the Sleaze. :o


Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on August 31, 2010, 11:05:51 PM
B'Dum! B'Dum!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on August 31, 2010, 11:14:57 PM
Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?

2qTJ: Your career began with a stardust theft of an innocent guitar… Did the bitter come out better?  

2aTV: Well, it wasn't exactly theft. My local Sunday School loaned me a guitar and I never gave it back. I used it, they never missed it, and at some point I got a guitar of my own and passed the old one onto a friend who was learning, so it carried on being used. It's the only thing religion has ever given me.

TJ: Somewhere between a permanent loan and a gift from the Gods!

3qTJ: Is the rumour true that it was this life directing action that you named your new album after and was taking that innocent Sunday School guitar a blessing or a curse?

3aTV: Never heard that rumour, but it's nonsense. Blessing or curse? You rarely get one without the other.

TJ: I wonder if that innocent guitar was thinking I am lying in the arms of the enemy?

Maybe instead it sensed great excitement ahead… A journey from young poet to protest panther.

4qTJ: So not to let you of the hook too easily, was Slaby a witness to the crime and if not what really happened in darkest Devon?

4aTV: I'll tell you about how we named my school band "Slaby Witness." It was the old standby method of finding a name for a band when you can't think of anything - we agreed to open a book at random, put a finger down on the page and choose whatever phrase it landed on. Unfortunately it landed on an article about the first attempt at using telegraphy and the phrase was "Slaby witnessed the experiments." This was never a name that was going to shoot us into pop stardom, but a deal's a deal. No doubt you could Google it and find out all the facts now, if you are particularly interested in early telegraphic experiments.
 
5qTJ: Like the corrupt and dum de dum Politicians, you passionately protest about, do you think you’ll ever escape the Sleaze?

5aTV: You can't shake off your past, and I don't want to. But I do downplay the "Sleaze" issue. People expect so much from it because they think there's going to be a pre-Adverts sound to it, but there really isn't. It was okay for the time, but out of context it's too slow, the lyrics are too pretentious and the songs are far too long. There are a couple songs from live gigs around that capture the band a bit better, but unfortunately this was a time before recording concerts became the norm, so they're very poor quality.
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Uli on September 01, 2010, 04:18:35 PM
Hm, not quite sure about this.
As the man himself says:
TV: People expect so much from it because they think there's going to be a pre-Adverts sound to it, but there really isn't. It was okay for the time, but out of context it's too slow, the lyrics are too pretentious and the songs are far too long.

Some skeletons are better left in the closet, eh?  ;)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on September 09, 2010, 08:49:21 AM
TV's describing the early 70's in general Uli, which Sleaze represented. As Dave Thompson said below it was clearly a child of its time. I prefer his review of the Sleaze album.

To me it's ahead of its time. I bet Rotten was a closet Sleaze fan. ;)

I've been hunting for this album in Cornwall for decades. If we TUTS don't want to hear it, it will remain in the darkness of the closet. ;)   

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Though clearly a child of its time – Diamond Dogs era Bowie, Cockney Rebel’s
Psychomodo and the Doctors of Madness can be numbered among its sonic
contemporaries – Sleaze is also a shockingly far-sighted disc, and not only
because one song, “Listen Don’t Think,” would be revived by the Adverts as
“Newboys.”

The interplay between rhythm and melody puts one in mind of an extravagant
Television (“Signals,” from the band’s live set, is “Marquee Moon” two years early),
while Smith’s lyrics pack a decadent edge that would not come into fashion for
another five years or more. “Hollywood,” in particular, remains one of the most
overwhelming songs, both lyrically and musically, he has ever penned.


Dave Thompson

I think it would be a real shame if we didn't get to collect the full musical history of the great career of TV Smith.
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Uli on September 10, 2010, 10:09:14 AM
Of course, if TV thinks it's good enough and there's interest from fans, he might put out a remastered version (or at least a few tracks for download?). We'll have to wait and see.  8)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on September 14, 2010, 07:10:10 PM
I'm not sure that a download will ever be the same as a CD or vinyl to me, Uli. I want to touch it. :-*

Especially if its got that SLEAZEy cover. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on December 16, 2011, 05:34:51 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pw1YnBwR4EU&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pw1YnBwR4EU&feature=endscreen)

Bloody Hell!!!! He's at it again! :o :o :o

Dum De Dum - Earthbound 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU&feature=related)

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SLEAZE – white label/no cat #, July 1975
7501 Showbiz Kids
7502 Dum De Dum
7503 Piss Artists
7504 Hollywood
7505 Listen Don't Think

A limited edition of 50 copies was pressed and distributed amongst friends
and family in a plain white sleeve.

“We did the Sleaze album in June 1975,” Andy Bennie recalled. “It was the first
time any of us had ever been into the studio; I’d only been playing bass about
eight months, I’d been playing guitar before that. We did the whole thing in two
hours, completely live, no overdubs or anything. The guy who mixed it was a
BBC engineer, he did a really amazing job on it.” Total cost -  38.88, including
VAT.

Though clearly a child of its time – Diamond Dogs era Bowie, Cockney Rebel’s
Psychomodo and the Doctors of Madness can be numbered among its sonic
contemporaries – Sleaze is also a shockingly far-sighted disc, and not only
because one song, “Listen Don’t Think,” would be revived by the Adverts as
“Newboys.”
The interplay between rhythm and melody puts one in mind of an extravagant
Television (“Signals,” from the band’s live set, is “Marquee Moon” two years early),
while Smith’s lyrics pack a decadent edge that would not come into fashion for
another five years or more. “Hollywood,” in particular, remains one of the most
overwhelming songs, both lyrically and musically, he has ever penned.

Dave Thompson
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on June 16, 2012, 05:49:43 PM
So what did you think of the excerpt from Showbiz Kids on We Who Wait?

Showbiz Kids - Earthbound 2011 live solo http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pw1YnBwR4EU&feature=endscreen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=pw1YnBwR4EU&feature=endscreen)

Dum De Dum - Earthbound 2007 live solo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_NFCL6c2sU&feature=related)

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Sleaze

Diamond Dogs era Bowie, Cockney Rebel’s Psychomodo and the Doctors of Madness can be numbered among its sonic contemporaries – Sleaze is also a shockingly far-sighted disc, and not only because one song, “Listen Don’t Think,” would be revived by the Adverts as “Newboys.”

The interplay between rhythm and melody puts one in mind of an extravagant Television (“Signals,” from the band’s live set, is “Marquee Moon” two years early), while Smith’s lyrics pack a decadent edge that would not come into fashion for another five years or more. “Hollywood,” in particular, remains one of the most
overwhelming songs, both lyrically and musically, he has ever penned.

Dave Thompson
Taken from his brilliant book 'TV Smith - Your Ticket Out of Here'
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: TV on June 17, 2012, 01:41:53 AM
I know I'm a tease but...soon, Sleaze.
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Nick on June 17, 2012, 09:14:18 AM
What I heard of Sleaze on We Who Wait I really liked. It sounded a lot more professional than a group of art students mucking around. I think it shows that TV was a perfectionist right from the start.  :)
Title: Re: Ready to WITNESS SLEAZE?
Post by: Tj on June 17, 2012, 10:41:21 AM
That's what I thought Nick. It fit right in as a child of it's time. I mean what's so bad about a cross between mid 70's Bowie, the original Cockney Rebel and the legendary Doctors of Madness? ;)

So will we all ever get own this glamorous slice of history? Todays TV tease sound like we just might pretty soon...

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I know I'm a tease but...soon, Sleaze

TV Smith 17.06.12

We Who Wait. :)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on June 17, 2012, 10:58:44 AM
Don't you just love in tune synchronicity?

Genius of Teev to wait for WE WHO WAIT to be aired first.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Alan on June 17, 2012, 10:09:42 PM
Intriguing!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: claret999 on June 17, 2012, 10:14:10 PM
Hmm, wonder what it could mean?
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on June 17, 2012, 10:31:36 PM
Well I think it probably means he's either going to reform Sleaze or release the album on CD, I feel most likely it will be the CD.

Of course I don't like to assume. ;)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Alan on June 17, 2012, 10:33:01 PM
always 'unassuming'
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Fred21 on June 18, 2012, 01:24:25 AM
I would have thought that after all those recent allegations Tim would have had enough Sleaze!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2012, 08:38:31 AM
TV on Sleaze in Dave T's Wake Up interview...

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TV: Then I went on to Torquay to do a year at art college, a foundation course. I formed another band there pretty much straight away. By this time I'd discovered the New York Dolls and so it was the influence of that and also a bit of the glam stuff that was going on. I was really into David Bowie at the time, his Ziggy Stardust tour was one of the greatest gigs I'd ever seen. There was another glam band called Cockney Rebel, they were one of the few bands that came down to the west country, and Doctors of Madness, Heavy Metal Kids. We didn't get most of the bands who were on the circuit down there, so when one did play there it was really quite important, the gigs were pretty special to start with. I met Gaye at college and we started formulating plans for a band, which would have been about 1975, I
suppose.
Sleaze actually recorded an album, pressed up 50 copies ourselves to give to friends, and it's a long long way from what I was doing a year later, for sure. For a start everything sped up a great deal. I don't think I'd ever realised how fast it was going to be until we started playing it with a bunch of people. I'd actually written the songs quite a bit slower. And the other big difference was the lyrics. With Sleaze they were just a stream of consciousness that didn't really mean anything. Like the worst elements of glam, it sounded like poetry but it wasn't.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on June 18, 2012, 08:49:00 AM
In a recent interview with John Robb we had the first glimpse of hope that Sleaze may be released due to the interest of TV's fans.

This is what was said earlier in a Big Unity interview...

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SLEAZE:
Tim Smith (vocals), Andy Bennie (bass), Buzz Chanter (guitar), Stuart Guest (guitar), Dave Heath (drums)
Sleaze (50 copies only. No label or cat.no, LP) July 1975
Side 1: 1.Showbiz Kid 2.Dum De Dum 3.Piss Artist
Side 2. 1.Hollywood 2.Listen Don´t Think
Big Untidy: “Who were Sleaze?”
TV Smith: “Sleaze were the band that came before The Adverts. I formed them when I moved to Torquay to study art for a year at the polytechnic, recruiting Andy Bennie, the bass player from my school band Slaby Witness, who´d also moved to Torquay to study art. We found a few other musicians, began rehearsing some songs I´d written and played a few gigs in local clubs, schools, pubs, and on one occasion – our only brush with celebrity – supported George Melly at the Tech´s 1974 Christmas party. Towards the summer we had enough songs to record an album and went into a local studio – getting a day´s session and 50 copies of the result on vinyl for an all-in-one price (about 40 pounds) and gave the records out to friends and family.”
Big Untidy: “Didn´t one of the Sleaze tracks later became an Adverts song?”
TV Smith: “The song I took with me to rework for The Adverts was originally called Listen Don´t Think – and ended up as Newboys.”

[Big Untidy: “Is it likely the Sleaze album will get released on CD?”

TV Smith: “I have absolutely no plans to reissue the Sleaze record.”

Now TV has said "soon Sleaze".

DARE TO DREAM TUTS.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: jrfeelgood on September 07, 2012, 02:55:53 PM
No teaze, this album is finally out in november!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on September 08, 2012, 11:40:23 AM
Good to know a "tentative" release date!  8)

Now waiting for release dates of Cheap, March of the Giants and Lucky Us.  :)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on September 08, 2012, 12:26:29 PM
Feels like I've spent a lifetime trying to track down this album, so this is great news.

We Who Wait. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: jrfeelgood on September 08, 2012, 06:50:34 PM
Why can I not post an image (Sleaze album cover. Check your FB page Tj)? I checked it is below max. size.
I get this message:

An Error Has Occurred!
The upload folder is full. Please try a smaller file and/or contact an administrator. 


Who is the administrator?
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on September 08, 2012, 07:33:12 PM
Why can I not post an image (Sleaze album cover. Check your FB page Tj)? I checked it is below max. size.

Klaus is Admin, but I can help as well maybe.

You won't need to upload to the TV smith website; if you have the pic on FB, you can link it.
Just click on the "image icon" above, put the link in and it should work.

(On FB you might need to click on the pic, find the URL under "properties" and copy & paste the link.)
Hope this helps.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: jrfeelgood on September 08, 2012, 09:21:03 PM
Here's a link, hope it works......

http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304954_4625238155138_1326194048_n.jpg
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on September 09, 2012, 09:23:11 AM
Yes, it does. And if you copy this link into the "img" thingies, it even shows in the forum.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304954_4625238155138_1326194048_n.jpg)

TV was Alice Cooper back then?  :o
 ;D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Alan on September 09, 2012, 07:11:40 PM
Blimey!  :o
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Ilove on September 09, 2012, 09:14:12 PM
Yes, it does. And if you copy this link into the "img" thingies, it even shows in the forum.

(http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/304954_4625238155138_1326194048_n.jpg)

TV was Alice Cooper back then?  :o
 ;D

Ich glaube, wenn ich ihn damals schon gekannt hätte wäre ich total auf ihn abgefahren.

Grüßle
Ilove
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: jrfeelgood on September 10, 2012, 03:04:08 AM
I am excited too about the Sleaze release! I am a very old TV Smith fan from the days he used to got to Doctors of Madness gigs.
 
Record label:   www.singsingrecords.com.
Scroll to the right. Should be interesting....and maybe extra tracks?
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on September 15, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
Ha! So TV didn't go for the bondage Sleeze cover! I didn't think he would.

This is a great cover. Not sure why people are shocked as his photo clearly appeared in We Who Wait. Mind you I have watched it many, many times.

Can't wait to own this. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on September 17, 2012, 10:04:05 AM
Erk! Just noticed it says Sleaze is vinyl only!!!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on September 17, 2012, 10:42:29 AM
Erk! Just noticed it says Sleaze is vinyl only!!!

And it says the label is from New York, NY, USA, which means it's import only (for us in Europe).

But maybe, with the help of TV and the label, we can organise some cd's being available for those (poor souls) who do not own a record player anymore.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on September 18, 2012, 07:22:56 AM
Great PosiTV response Uli. :D

Maybe it will make me get my finger out of my ass and finally buy those speakers for my old record player and I'm pretty sure that Smit has one of those gizmos that can record vinyl onto CD. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on September 30, 2012, 01:23:50 PM
Was Hollywood the highlight of the Earthbound 2012 WE WHO WAIT show?

Difficult to choose as so many highlights!!!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Rockula on October 02, 2012, 03:27:47 PM
Great PosiTV response Uli. :D

Maybe it will make me get my finger out of my ass and finally buy those speakers for my old record player and I'm pretty sure that Smit has one of those gizmos that can record vinyl onto CD. :D

I have a record deck to mp3 direct transfer on my music centre. I'll buy the vinyl. Simple matter to convert to .wav and put on a CD. Can't wait.  ;D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Tj on October 02, 2012, 03:47:35 PM
Star!  8)

Here comes Hollywood. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: jrfeelgood on November 01, 2012, 06:01:50 PM
There is a new update on the Sing Sing records website. A lengthy account by TV of how the Sleaze album came to be in 1975 and you can also listen to the track Dum de Dum. Very Lou Reed inspired or what? Trying to decide what to make of it all, so I better go and listen again....

http://singsingrecords.com/sleaze.php
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on November 02, 2012, 11:41:27 AM
A lengthy account by TV of how the Sleaze album came to be in 1975 ...

Nice write-up, good to read this.  8)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on November 03, 2012, 12:31:56 PM
Great Sleaze story by TV on Sing Sing.

Reminds me of what Dave Thompson wrote in the awesome TV Smith biog book Your Ticket Out of Here about Sleaze sounding like a fusion between Bowie, Cockney Rebel and The Doctors of Madness.

I wonder with all these TV Smith back catalogue releases and Jamie's awesome documentary if Dave Thompson will finally write his dream book on the full life story of the Legend now called TV Smith?

Quote
Though clearly a child of its time – Diamond Dogs era Bowie, Cockney Rebel’s Psychomodo and the Doctors of Madness can be numbered among its sonic contemporaries – Sleaze is also a shockingly far-sighted disc, and not only because one song, “Listen Don’t Think,” would be revived by the Adverts as “Newboys.”

The interplay between rhythm and melody puts one in mind of an extravagant Television (“Signals,” from the band’s live set, is “Marquee Moon” two years early), while Smith’s lyrics pack a decadent edge that would not come into fashion for another five years or more. “Hollywood,” in particular, remains one of the most overwhelming songs, both lyrically and musically, he has ever penned.

Dave Thompson
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Rockula on November 03, 2012, 03:16:57 PM
I joined the Sing Sing mailing list but unless I've missed it I can't seem to find any actual release date for the album. I vaguely remember something about it being planned for November (i.e. now) but I'm probably wrong.
 Anyone have a date?
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith TUTS Forum Exclusive 17.06.12
Post by: Uli on November 03, 2012, 03:26:27 PM
Well, that's what he said (not sure how "official" that is):

No teaze, this album is finally out in november!

On the link given above there is still a blank space behind "release information", so I guess we'll have to wait.



I wonder with all these TV Smith back catalogue releases and Jamie's awesome documentary if Dave Thompson will finally write his dream book on the full life story of the Legend now called TV Smith?

Oh YES, please! Now that would be a dream book!  8)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on November 15, 2012, 12:46:21 PM
Speakers purchased so after all these years I'll finally be able to play vinyl again.

Bring it on Teev. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Rockula on December 16, 2012, 12:21:08 PM
RELEASED TODAY! VERY LIMITED VINYL PRESSING.

http://www.singsingrecords.com/

I've ordered mine.  ;D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Luddite Joe on December 16, 2012, 04:46:09 PM
Thanks for the heads-up, Rockula.
I've just ordered myself an early Christmas present. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: TV on December 18, 2012, 04:14:19 PM
I now have a very limited number of Sleaze albums to sell on a first come first serve basis to TUTS. They'll be £15 per copy inc. p&p. Not in the official shop yet, but if you're interested please PM me. Cheers, TV
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 25, 2012, 01:25:51 PM
Oh bugger! I've been seeking Sleaze for decades, I do hope I've not missed the boat. Especially as I've bought and fixed up my speakers just so I can play this vinyl legend. :-[
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 25, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
Just got a text from TV. I got the last two copies!! Phew! :)
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 25, 2012, 02:24:05 PM
Oops! Almost forgot to add that I was only joking. I have gor a confirmation order from Teev but he didn't tell me it was the last two copies.

What a perfect Christmas Day gift. Cheers Teev. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2012, 12:23:04 PM
"I thought you might like to know..."

What a perfect way to end a special year.

Cheers for getting the albums for me and Smit here so quick Teev.

As I'm into Slade this week I'll simply say for now...

"Oh oh You Know how to Sleaze me, Oh oh you know how to pleeze me!"

HAPPY NEW YEAR LEGEND

Now for Hollywood.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2012, 05:22:34 PM
So now I finally have speakers.

So now I can finally play vinyl again.

So now I finally have Sleaze on vinyl.

So now after decades of wanting and teasing and waiting I have finally played Sleaze on viyl.

With TV's latester two re-releases you have the two most different albums in his entire back catalogue.

My biggest prediction is that people will think why on Earth did TV wait so long.

Thank you TV. Thank you Sleaze.

PS: I see the Sleaze poster girl made the inner circle. I thought it may be the cover.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2012, 05:24:25 PM
Loved every track.

Think I'll play it again.

Oh oh you know how to pleeze me!
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 29, 2012, 06:23:48 PM
I knew this was going to be good.

The only problem is that my expectations of Tim Smith albums are always so high.

This time Tim beat my expectations.

Mind you in 1975 I was a closet Bowie, Cockney Rebel and Gabrel Genesis fan.

Stageringly the FOURTH new merch releas of 2012.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Rockula on December 31, 2012, 02:31:41 PM
Excellent. Don't know why Tim was so reticent to release it until now. Nothing to be ashamed of here. Love it.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on December 31, 2012, 02:46:29 PM
Exactly DJ. I couldn't agree more.
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on January 12, 2013, 06:45:34 PM
So what's the verdict TUTS?
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Tj on March 09, 2013, 05:57:52 PM
So what do you think of the Sleeze album?

It was well worth buying my speakers for. :D
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Gabumon on March 10, 2013, 01:18:42 PM
I still have to transfer it to CD or FLAC files

but, no Time for anything  :o
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Rockula on December 09, 2014, 08:55:32 PM
Well, somebody's ripped it from vinyl and put tracks on YouTube.
So, for those who didn't get the Sleaze album here's the track that will sound most familiar to Adverts fans...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzggO8BuYgk
Title: Re: "I Know I'm A Tease But... SOON SLEAZE" TV Smith
Post by: Alan Grundy on January 27, 2019, 06:28:44 AM
Sleaze track - "Showbiz Kid" is on a "Junk Shop Glam" compilation "All The Young Droogs"
https://www.cherryred.co.uk/product/all-the-young-droogs-60-juvenile-delinquent-wrecks-rocknglam-and-a-flavour-of-bubblegum-from-the-70s-various-artists-3cd-clamshell-boxset/
There's also a small interview with TV about Sleaze in March's Uncut magazine as part of the box set review.