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TV Smith => TV Chat => Topic started by: Tj on December 13, 2009, 12:21:39 PM

Title: What you need is something... CHEAP!
Post by: Tj on December 13, 2009, 12:21:39 PM
Yep! You guessed it TUTS. It's CHEAP talk time.

Did you know that TV was in Cheap for 5 years. That's about as long as he was in The Adverts and The Explorers combined?  
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Post by: Tj on December 29, 2009, 06:38:05 PM
Well someone out their is a fan. :D

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Cheap's album RIP: Everything Must Go! is one of the top ten punk rock albums of all time.

I personally rank it alongside the debuts by The Clash, Sex Pistols, Penetration and Stiff Little Fingers.

An adrenaline-fuelled burst of raw but intelligent and melodic rage.

Dave T 'Wake Up Magazine' 1999
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Post by: Tj on July 15, 2012, 10:34:45 AM
Here's Tim Cross on TV Smith's Cheap...
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TV did the right thing by going back to the roots of a working band, who were mates, obviously less accomplished musically speaking, but who would play the songs at the top of their ability, and have fun gigging. My
job on that album was to get the best out of them, then provide
appropriate keyboards. Cheap was a very necessary
stage, and I liked them all, and thought that they did very well.

Taken from Uli's Tim Cross Interview
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Post by: Nick on July 16, 2012, 12:14:17 PM
Totally agree. One of my fave TV albums.
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Post by: Rob-C on August 14, 2012, 01:55:55 AM
Is there any possibility that the Cheap John Peel session could ever be released?  I used to have it on cassette and distinctly remember listening to it in 1988, in the small room I lived in having just moved to London, before the tape eventually got chewed up after multiple playings.  They were billed on the session as 'TV Smith's Cheap'.

'Luxury In Exile' from that session is much better than the album version.
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Post by: TV on August 14, 2012, 02:01:35 PM
Working on a release for the Cheap Anthology later this year - and it will have the Peel sessions on!
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Post by: Nick on August 14, 2012, 02:26:21 PM
Great news  :D
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Post by: Alan on August 14, 2012, 04:11:45 PM
As long as it's Cheap...
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Post by: Rockula on August 15, 2012, 01:44:35 PM
I'm chirpy. Chirpy, cheap Cheap. ;D
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Post by: Uli on August 16, 2012, 11:12:35 AM
With the re-release of "March of the giants", the release of CD part 2 with the 80s demos and now CHEAP, this seems to be a year of "catching up" with TV's older releases!  :)
What will happen next year though? (Possibly new albums?)
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Post by: Tj on August 18, 2012, 06:18:37 PM
Bloody hell! This TV Smith he is spoiling us!!! Ace news! :D
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Post by: Uli on August 19, 2012, 10:25:24 AM
With the docu on TV and thus a renewed interest, I'm sure it is exactly the right time for such re-releases!  :)
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Post by: TheMikeN on September 02, 2012, 09:36:40 PM
Hi! I've never posted in these forums before so I hope I don't just wander down paths that everyone else has already explored.

But this is actually a bit geeky/fussy so I'm probably on safe ground!

In the gig lists for 1987, there are two 'mystery' gigs listed with no dates or venues. I have no problem with one of these but the other seems weird because it has a set list that includes songs that wouldn't have been in the set for quite a while after that (Borderline, Ghosts, Ready for the Axe..., Freeworld).

The reason I'm interested in these details is that a) I really love the Cheap songs and b) I was at two of the next three gigs (both at Reading's Paradise Club) one in April and one in May. At the first of these gigs, the band ran out of songs they knew and had to play Silicon Valley Holiday again as an encore - so I don't think the 'mystery' gig could have ever included the additional songs. Meanwhile, the May gig in Reading was interesting because it included Third Term and I think this must have been the first time it was played live - a month before the general election in which Thatcher actually got her third term. TV called it the band's "ode to the inevitable"!

I am really looking forward to the Cheap anthology that TV has just announced. My kind of listening!

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Post by: Uli on September 03, 2012, 11:06:55 AM
... I was at two of the next three gigs (both at Reading's Paradise Club) one in April and one in May. At the first of these gigs, the band ran out of songs they knew and had to play Silicon Valley Holiday again as an encore - so I don't think the 'mystery' gig could have ever included the additional songs.

Well, the longer ago, the more "unexact" these archive entries would be. I don't know who provided these details for 1987. (I think many of those are based on old setlists, memories, flyers, tapes...) In fact those "mystery gigs" might've happened long after April/May towards the end of that year (as no date is known).

Meanwhile, the May gig in Reading was interesting because it included Third Term and I think this must have been the first time it was played live - a month before the general election in which Thatcher actually got her third term. TV called it the band's "ode to the inevitable"!

I am really looking forward to the Cheap anthology that TV has just announced. My kind of listening!

Thanks for sharing the gig memories. Let us know how you like the anthology!
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Post by: Tj on September 08, 2012, 12:24:27 PM
Really interesting post TheMikeN. Mik Heslin and TV sometimes post on here. Maybe they have the answers you seek.
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Post by: Uli on January 16, 2017, 11:01:25 AM
Captain shared this article by Martin Newell on his Facebook page:

https://www.facebook.com/sensiblecaptain/posts/10155667684828102:0

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I had a good laugh re-reading this Colchester Echo article by my occasional songwriting partner Martin ‘The Alien’ Newell…
DANCING WITH THE CAPTAIN
Pigalle, Paris April 1990
“T.V. Smith's band, Cheap, are on stage and giving it some helmet. They're pounding through a song called Third Term, a perfectly good bit of punk ramalama, which TV has written because of his despair at Mrs Thatcher being re-elected It's the last number of the night. The French support band and their liggers have already been backstage and polished off most our rider – this is the food and beer which the club supplies for starving English rockers. Most nights of our residency, all that's left for us when we get offstage, usually, are broken French baguettes, Laughing Cow cheese and loads of bananas, which for some reason, the hangers-on don't like. The dressing room is like all rock dressing rooms and is covered in graffiti, much of it scrawled by other English rock bands.
Captain Sensible has found a good use for the unwanted bananas. Every night, after he's played his set, he stands in the wings breaking them up and flinging the pieces at the audience, Smith's band and me. I'm standing in the wings on the other side of the stage and as the banana fragments whizz through the air, they are momentarily illuminated in the stage lights. When the audience start throwing things back, the air is thick with the flying fruit, which ,when it's lit-up, resembles tracer bullets. I'm on my side of the stage, shirtless, with my black cycling trousers on, picking banana out of my hair. The audience, meanwhile is heaving and jumping at the front of the stage, Captain Sensible's making even more mess and laughing about it all, and poor old Cheap have got to finish their set in this mayhem.”
(This is only the "Cheap" part, read more at the link above)
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Post by: Uli on September 29, 2017, 10:47:47 AM
Great new interview about CHEAP!

http://www.behindtheamp.com/2017/09/not-so-cheap-tv-smith-and-best-band-you.html

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It was that black hole I wanted to know more about, when TV fronted Cheap, a band who rallied against the injustices of the dying years of Thatcherism and produced one of the best pieces of seven inch vinyl I have ever bought, the magnificent and beautifully crafted ‘Third Term’, a sadly ignored plea to the public not to let Thatcher and her cronies ruin Britain with another term in office.

BTA: What was the catalyst for forming Cheap?

TV Smith: “I really missed playing live. I had been dumped by the record industry. No deal, no manager, no publisher, I ended up at home, writing lots of songs and demoing them with Tim Cross, and occasionally sending them to labels and being told to “Fuck Off”.

What was missing was going out and playing to people. The plan was for a small-scale band to get out and around to gigs in a couple of cars and gear. We had no thoughts of being mega-successful but only of  getting out and playing pubs and small clubs. We would go anywhere, any gig that would have us and pay the petrol money.
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We had no chance of trying to do our own thing as against what the music business wanted. Now it is a dream compared to then. You can make your own records independently, sell them at your merch stand and play your gigs independently. In the eighties there was NOTHING. Unless you were picked up by a label, there was no DIY scene, there was no guitar music, and there was nowhere to play. You were looking into a hole whatever you would do.
Read more at the link above!  8)