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TV Songs / Re: What songs would have been on the second Explorers album?
« on: November 10, 2009, 02:38:22 AM »
Some like Wake Up, Break Up the party, Be Brave and Parade are more obvious but what else would have been on this incredible 'what if?' album?

Let's start with The Impossible Person and wait for it... Beautiful Bomb. :o


We probably wouldn't have got any of the first four - all too old, and there were reasons why they fell out of the original set so early.  It's hard to predict, though - the songs we knw from late 81 were all written after the band broke up, so TV was already thinking in solo terms. But "Wheels Out Of Gear" came out of the summer UK tour, and there was definitely talk of making the new album more dancey, so Treasure, New Ways, On Your Video might have been in there... Open Up Your Heart as well?


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TV Chat / Re: Some New Kind of Great EXPLORERS
« on: November 09, 2009, 02:08:52 PM »
I got to see Stoner in the Doctors and at the same time as that awesome first 'Late Night Movies' album.

My first exposure was the Twiggy show, then the first LP... but didn't see them till after Figments... a couple of "original" line-up shows, then it was the Marquee with Vanian, and the Music Machine farewell.  Not fair.

Did see what I think was Richard's first post-Doctors show... went with Gaye and Tim to some college somewhere (maybe in Chelsea?).  That was a goodie.  Bunch of Cabaret Futura nights as well... I have a great photo somewhere of Richard there, sitting in front of a painting and more or less in the same pose as the woman in the pic.  I'll see if I can dig it out for you.

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I see that in 2010 it will be 30 years since the first issue of TV Times.



Ouch! 

October 6 1980.  Up at some truly unGodly hour in the morning, walked 15 minutes into work because the buses weren't even running yet, cup after cup of foul coffee from the vending machine and then onto the photocopier for a couple of hours.  Home to staple them together and then off to the gig to distribute them round the tables.   Ah, the memories....

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great EXPLORERS
« on: November 08, 2009, 03:13:22 PM »
Got to admit that as great as The Adverts were live and on Peel, The Explorers win the race for me too.

The only other UK band that compete with The Explorers for me is Stoner's other great band; The Doctors of Madness.     

That's a difficult call... it's a time-and-place thing for me, the Explorers gigs were really amazing and I saw them more than any other band ever.  At the same time, though, an Adverts gig during the first half of 77 had a magic that I don't think any band has ever eclipsed.

As for the Doctors... unfortunately I didn't see them when they were REALLY good (either side of the first album), so they'd already started to change by then.  But yeah, they were okay....

Hey TJ, did you get the photos I sent?

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 07, 2009, 02:42:09 PM »
I really like "Walk Away", sounds a bit like early Waterboys (who hadn't released an album at the time)!

And when they did, look who was singing backing vocals on it.  There are no coincidences.

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 06, 2009, 02:56:09 PM »
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Question - does anyone have a decent quality Explorers live recording, apart from the the Music Machine and the one from the German tour?

Dave Thompson

Have you got The Rock Garden in Middlesborough? It's straight off the desk.

I forgot about that one.  Yes, have that as well.    Wish someone had made a listenable tape of one of the Greyhound shows....

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers Dream Album
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:55:41 PM »
I like both those.

Do you see Parade and Be Brave as Explorers songs?

Erik is very attached to Be Brave.


I really liked them at the time... remember being disappointed that they didn't follow "Imagination" into the live set.   Maybe in place of "Walk Away"....

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Nope. Just trying to get people to shift some product.  ;)

Sleaze is a part of TV's life story that we TUTS know the least about.

Well this side of the Slabby ones!


A studio version of "Signals" would have been nice, though... probably my second favourite Sleaze track.  Apart from the cover of "Red House," of course.

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TV Chat / Re: Are you an ADVERTS Adventurer?
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:50:20 PM »
"Adventurers donīt venture here."

I've just taken a great adventure through the best of The Adverts as I await Dave Thompson's life and times TV Smith guide book called Your Ticket Out of Here.

I've worked my way through all teh studio and Peel sessions and some of the live tracks. Then it was on to Top of The Pops and the German theme. It's so funny watching TV then when you think how fluent he is at speaking German now. 

What's your thoughts of TV's most famous band TUTS? 


Talking of Top Of The Pops, I assume you have the LP of the same name's version of Gary Gilmore? One of THE best.

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:48:53 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ThEQCNJJRI

This live clip of The Explorers took me eons to find this time. I think it's because they have placed a small v after the T. That's probably why its got so few hits.

oh, that old thing.  I thought you'd found something good!

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:45:03 PM »
Do you have any great Explorers photo's Dave?

Not sure that they're "great", but yeah, I've got dozens. 

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 06, 2009, 01:44:05 PM »
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I don't think it was done deliberately or even consciously... if I remember correctly, it was a mastering thing that was out of everyone's hands.  And it's only the teensiest speed-up as well, but yeah, it was noticeable.

Have you heard about the slower version Dave? Me and Smit can't believe what a difference the speed makes.



I've got one that I made a few years back, just to satisfy my own curiosity, but that's all...

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TV Songs / Re: Which Two TV Smith Songs Most Inspire You?
« on: November 05, 2009, 02:39:51 AM »
"Token Of My Love," which was the victim of my one and only live performance, "opening" for Atilla the Stockbroker at a BUAV benefit at a poetry club in Earls Court in early 1983... I adapted it as a poem and brought a sausage along for added drama.

and probably, "One of Our Missiles Is Missing," because we've all had days like that.

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TV Chat / Re: Exploring The Great Explorers
« on: November 05, 2009, 02:30:34 AM »
Actually Dave my favourite versions are the slowed down versions. That's if they are slowed down and not speeded up. There's a bit of a debate on that but Erik was pretty confident that the original album was speeded up.

Have you heard about this?


I don't think it was done deliberately or even consciously... if I remember correctly, it was a mastering thing that was out of everyone's hands.  And it's only the teensiest speed-up as well, but yeah, it was noticeable.

Question - does anyone have a decent quality Explorers live recording, apart from the the Music Machine and the one from the German tour?

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TV Chat / Re: Forgotten lyrics, keys, mixes and noises
« on: November 04, 2009, 02:37:31 PM »
...I think TV should re-record Walk Away with Smit's special harmonious as backing vocals.

Let me think about this one Dave.

For starters though I can tell you I would go for the single vocals version of The Perfect Life and the Tom Newman slow version of The Easy Way (it's so atmospheric).

Jeez! I've just noticed you've left Walk in a Straight Line out too. That's three of the very best Explorers songs missing. ;)


Hmmm, clearly you've been listening to a very different Explorers to me.  But that's good... add "Wake Up" and "Break Up The Party" (which really was one of their best songs, but I'm saving that for the second single) and we could soon be looking at double album.  I'd probably still not include "Walk Away," though  ;D

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