Final Photo's of Colin Stoner at his last ever gig (with The Doctors of Madness)

[Tj]

Hi TUTS here's the latest on TV from our sister site www.doctorsofmadness.co.uk    

Tj Sundown  posted 8/21/03 10:48 AM        

Hi The AfterGlow,

Just before I type up the entire Doctors Of Madness and Strange Stoner Songs Charts, I thought you might be interested to see how the songs Richard co-wrote with TV Smith are doing in TV Smiths latest chart.

All songs are an average score out of 10

Strange songs =  :arrow:  

1 Expensive Being Poor 9.38
2 Only One Flavour 9.29
3 Not A Bad Day 9.17
4 Not In My Name 9.06
5 Immortal Rich 8.82
6 Soon As I Found It I Lost It 8.71
7 Generation Y 8.69
8 Runaway Train Driver 8.67
9 The Future Used To Be Better 8.53
10 Carrying On 8.50
11 Swimming In The Flood 8.40
12 Earthbound 8.33
 :arrow: 13 Some Kind Of War 8.33
14 For Every Hit There's A Miss 8.27
15 Es Stoert Mich Nicht 8.25
16 Your Ticket Out Of Here 8.25
17 Thin Green Line 8.13
18 Tomahawk Cruise 8.13
19 Driver Or Passenger 8.08
20 Gather Your Things And Go 8.07
21 One Chord Wonders 8.06
22 Impulse Buy 8.00
23 March Of The Giants 8.00
24 Top Ten 8.00
25 Great British Mistake 7.94
26 What If? 7.93
27 Useless 7.89
28 Lion And The Lamb 7.88
29 Free World 7.85
30 Sugar Crash 7.83
31 Atlantic Tunnel 7.81
32 Gary Gilmore's Eyes 7.76
33 People Don't Know 7.75
34 The New You 7.75
35 The Sure Thing 7.75
36 Bored Teenagers 7.71
37 Lord's Prayer 7.67
38 No Time To Be 21 7.53
39 Break Up The Party 7.50
40 Eurodisneyland Tomorrow 7.50
41 I Already Have Your Heart 7.50
42 Straight And Narrow 7.50
43 The Day We Caught The Big Fish 7.47
44 My String Will Snap 7.47
45 The World Just Got Smaller Again 7.46
46 Roll Like A River 7.43
47 Lies 7.42
48 All The Right Hands Rise 7.40
49 Living World 7.36
50 One Million Pounds 7.36
51 This Year, Next Year... 7.36
52 New Church 7.33
53 We Want The Road 7.29
54 I Know What You Want 7.27
55 Drowning On Dry Land 7.25
56 Luxury In Exile 7.25
57 One Of Our Missiles Is Missing 7.25
58 Open Up Your Heart 7.25
59 Haves And Have-nots 7.23
60 Shipwrecked On The Rocks Of Love 7.20
61 200 Blows 7.14
62 Ready For The Axe To Drop 7.12
63 Let 'Em Go 7.08
64 Beat Up Your Boyfriends 7.00
 :arrow: 65 Dance Of Death 7.00
66 Downbeat 7.00
67 Finger Of Fashion 7.00
68 Little Knocks 7.00
69 Love Chain Letter 7.00
70 Move On 7.00
71 My Trojan Horse 7.00
72 New Discoverers 7.00
73 Safety In Numbers 7.00
74 The Wedding Dress 7.00
75 Wheels Out Of Gear 7.00
76 High Society 6.93
77 On The Roof 6.93
78 The Servant 6.93
79 Like A Rocket 6.88
80 King Of Hearts 6.75
81 Land Of Plenty 6.75
82 Lucky Us 6.75
83 Make Your Escape 6.75
84 Spy On The Line 6.75
85 Walk The Plank 6.73
86 Bombsite Boy 6.71
87 Cheap 6.71
88 Momentous Changes 6.71
89 The Beautiful Bomb 6.70
90 On Wheels 6.64
91 Buried By The Machine 6.64
92 Earth 2 6.62
93 Can't Pay, Won't Pay 6.60
94 The Newshound 6.60
95 Television's Over 6.53
96 Be Brave 6.50
97 Borderline 6.50
98 Divide And Rule 6.50
 :arrow: 99 Last Human Being 6.50
100 Lean Toward The Light 6.50
101 Poison Mind 6.50
102 Right Time 6.50
103 She's Losing You 6.50
104 Ship In A Bottle 6.50
105 The Impossible Person 6.50
106 The Real Fake 6.50
107 Fire In The Darkness 6.45
108 The Easy Way 6.45
109 Last True Thing 6.43
110 Strong Horse 6.43
111 In There 6.42
112 Head On! Clear! 6.38
113 Cast Of Thousands 6.36
114 A Token Of My Love 6.33
115 I Surrender 6.33
116 New Day Dawning 6.33
 :arrow: 117 Summer Fun 6.33
118 Your Haunted Heart 6.33
119 I Will Walk You Home 6.31
120 Last Words Of The Great Explorer 6.31
121 Happy Homeland 6.29
122 Statute Of Liberty 6.29
123 New Ways Are Best 6.27
124 Walk Away 6.27
125 Blind Love 6.25
126 Feet On The Ground 6.25
127 Putting Up A Front 6.25
128 Beauty Treatment 6.22
129 Third Term 6.22
130 War Fever 6.22
131 We Who Wait 6.21
132 Empty Wallet 6.17
133 Fix It 6.17
134 Newboys 6.17
135 Ghosts 6.10
136 I Looked At The Sun 6.09
137 Drowning Men 6.08
138 The Adverts 6.08
139 The Perfect Life 6.08
 :arrow: 140 Back From The Dead 6.08
141 Quickstep 6.08
142 Burning Rain 6.00
143 Parade 6.00
144 Safe House 6.00
145 Silicon Valley Holiday 6.00
146 Wake Up! 6.00
147 Dominator 5.82
148 I Live For Everything 5.82
149 On Your Video 5.82
150 Coming Round 5.80
151 Walk In A Straight Line 5.80
152 Fate Of Criminals 5.73
153 Have Fun 5.73
154 My Place 5.73
155 Looking Down On London 5.70
156 Love Songs 5.69
 :arrow: 157 Kings Of The Wreckage 5.67
158 Leisure Time 5.67
159 The Suit 5.67
160 Male Assault 5.60
161 A World Of My Own 5.56
162 Cracking Up 5.56
163 London Beach 5.56
164 Headhunters 5.50
165 Trans-Time 5.50
166 Imagination 5.45
167 The Unwelcome Guest 5.45
168 See Europe 5.40
169 Woodpecker 5.40
 :arrow: 170 The Big Break 5.33
171 Treasure 5.10
172 In My World Of Words 5.00
 :arrow: 173 Making Machines 5.00
 :arrow: 174 Torpedo 5.00
175 Cut Up 4.00
176 Don't Want To Be Lonely Tonight 4.00
177 Dum de Dum 4.00
178 Hollywood 4.00
179 Listen, Don't Think 4.00
180 Piss Artists 4.00
181 Save Me From The Night 4.00
182 Showbiz Kids 4.00
183 Signals 4.00

 

[Tj]

It's great to see the awesome demo Some Kind Of War in TV Smith's Top 20. It's a track that TV and Richard nearly played together at Glastonwick 7 at Southwick last summer. So very close and yet so far! It's the two worlds greatest singer-songwriters at their melodic and moving best.  

I think the four Strange/Smith songs that came out on top are the best four of the 'Raw Meat For The Missionaries' demo's that I receive so many emails about. Dance Of Death, like Some Kind Of War (where the demo's title is taken from) is an absolute classic.  

The start to both songs are two of the greatest starts to songs I have ever heard. They both really deserve to be heard.

Tj 'Kid' Sundown  

[Tj]

Speaking of Some Kind Of War and Dance Of Death, which have both made TV Smit's Top 100, here's what Richard emailed me about making the demo's with TV:

As so often happens in that business, the timing just didn't work for TV and me with those recordings. I was already thinking about The Phenomenal Rise, and to be honest didn't want to get into a full-time diversionary project.

I agree with you that the songs would benefit enormously from having had a bit of money thrown at them and a half-decent recording budget. I think they have a certain melancholic atmosphere which unites all the tracks, and I remember how excited we were at the time we were doing them. Every time we got together we seemed to write new stuff.

*I would be very happy for you to run a website covering the period between The Doctors and Happiness. Let me know when you want to get started and I am sure I can let you have a lot of help and material

Best wishes

Richard

*Err the last bit never came to fruition because I hadn't realised the limit to my technical talent back in 2001. One could say I was Just Exploring Madness!

Tj 'Kid' Sundown

[Tj]

5 pages of postings, but only 63 replies.

It's STRANGE how I have had more success in converting Smith fans like Mainlines Steve and Rocket Ron into TUTS than the other way round. :?

Why is that?

 

[Tj]

Mind you thinking about it.

There is Hippie Dave Damned who is a fan of both and Uli bought Late Night Movies by the Doctors and Klaus, Fred and Fleag all enjoyed Richard's show at Southwick. So that's not too bad it it.

And then there is always my good friend C5  :wink:  :lol:

 

Tj go and get some bloody studying done your talking to your bloody self :roll:  :roll:  :roll:  :oops:    :oops:

[Tj]

Hey I've got loads of 'homework' done so I've rewarded myself by allowing myself back onto the Worlds friendliset forum and given myself the ultimate thrill - making a list (The full and final Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart)

I'm just nipping off to post it on the Doctors forum.

I'll be back...

...as the next President of The Ultimate State Of Blood And Money once said.

 

[Tj]

So TUTS here it is in all it's glory:

The Official Doctors Of Madness Songs Chart by Tj 'Kid' Sundown, Richard Strange, Stoner and The AfterGlow.

1. Mainlines Prologue/Mainlines
2. Marie & Joe
3. Brothers/Suicide City
4. Billy Watch Out
4. Waiting/Please Don’t Shoot The Pianist
6. Mitzi’s Cure/I Think Were Alone
7. Sons Of Survival
8. Kiss Goodbye Tomorrow
9. Triple Vision
9. Network
11. Out
12. B-Movie Bedtime
13. Afterglow
14. No Limits
15. Doctors Of Madness
15. In Camera (Huis Clos)
17. 50’s Kids
18. Bulletin
19. Cool
20. The Noises Of The Evening
21. Back From The Dead
22. Perfect Past
22. Waiting For My Man
24. Into The Strange
24. Don’t Panic England
24. What Goes On?

Don't Panic England is another TV Smith and Richard Strange song. This one was sung by Dave Vanian and it almost was the Doctors last ever single...

...almost. :cry:  

Any comments most gratefully appreciated.

Tj 'Kid' Sundown 21.08.03

 

[Tj]

This next chart is the amalgamated votes from Ricahrd Strange and Colin Stoner:

1. Mainlines Prologue/Mainlines (1)
2. Marie & Joe (2)
3. Triple Vision (9)
4. Network (9)
5. Sons Of Survival (7)
6. The Noises Of The Evening (20)
7. Billy Watch Out (4)
8. Brothers/Suicide City (3)
9. Out (11)
10. Perfect Past (22)
11. Kiss Goodbye Tomorrow (8 )
12. Back From The Dead (21)
13. In Camera (Huis Clos) (15)
14. What Goes On? (24)

Songs Not Voted For by Strange & Stoner:

(4) Waiting/Please Don’t Shoot The Pianist
(6) Mitzi’s Cure/I Think Were Alone
(12) B-Movie Bedtime
(13) Afterglow
(14) No Limits
(15) Doctors Of Madness
(17) 50’s Kids
(18 ) Bulletin
(19) Cool
(22) Waiting For My Man
(24) Into The Strange
(24) Don’t Panic England

The numbers in brackets refer to the full DOM Songs Chart.

Waiting was a bit of a shock...
...But they got the two Giants spot on!

Richard played synth for The Adverts in their finest few miutes; the awesome Cast Of Thousands. Colin was the backbone of The Explorers with his stunning bass playing and underated backing vocals.

What do you think of the S&S chart?

Tj 'Kid' Sundown

 

[Tj]

Here's a Last Words on the chart from The great Explorer:

"I loved just about everything we did, it was a huge part of my life. There’s not a lot I would change except maybe our management and record company, not what The Doctors should have ordered perhaps.

Good luck with the poll, I hope you get your deposit refunded, stay in touch."

BEST WISHES,
STONER

 

[Tj]

Here's a few Last Words on the chart from the Strange Advert:

"I would just like to thank you all for voting in TJ's Doctors of Madness Poll. I am touched and flattered that so many of you even remember the songs, let alone are still able to be so passionate about them. Thank you all, and especially thanks to you, TJ, for all the work, support and encouragement you give.*

I think the final list is pretty much as I would have hoped, thought the actual positions of the songs in the chart may have raised some eyebrows."

Very best wishes to you all- enjoy the summer
De-condition!!
Richard

*Gulp! :oops:    :oops:

[Tj]

GAWd it's like a beauty pagent :roll:  :lol:

I'd like to finish off by thanking the dozens of Doctors Of Madness fans (The AfterGlow - I never give in!) for taking the time to share their own favourite Doctors songs with me.

One day I'll share more of their feedback with you. One of the strangest but most enlightning emails I received said simply... "Why?"
...Why not?

Cheers and hang loose you DOCers!

Tj 'Kid' Sundown

 

Thanks for 'listening' TUTS And don't worry they hear more about TV Smith than you do about Richard Strange and Stoner :wink:

[Tj]

For those wondering...

No Teev didn't vote he was too busy producing an album and two singles and playing hundreds of gigs. But that's how I found out that he only hadn't voted on his own chart because he is was busy. Which to me does imply that he does intend to vote at some time.

We did get votes from Attila The Stockbroker and Joe Elliot from Deff Lepard though 8O

 

[Tj]

Just checked out the TV & TUTS Forum stats 8O Boy is it difficult to get into the Top 10 Replies Chart

 :roll:    :roll:

[Tj]

Hey what do you know :

Most Viewed Topics
Rank Views Topic
1 2449 SOUTHWICK 2
2 1721 Not A Bad Tour (TV and Garden Gang in May)
3 1253 Dodgy 'punk' bands???!!!
4 971 HITS '03!
5 958 German tour
6 926 First Records
7 878 Question: The end of the world?
8 871 unplug the t.v.
9 807 TV Smith & Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Ever)
10 781 avatars

Most Active Topics  
Rank Replies Topic
1 228 SOUTHWICK 2
2 171 Not A Bad Tour (TV and Garden Gang in May)
3 93 HITS '03!
4 90 punk nite out.london 25th june.tv + knox
5 80 German tour
6 76 Forthcoming UK Gigs - Who's Going?
7 75 Question: The end of the world?
8 72 TV Smith & Richard Strange (Greatest Combined Act Ever)
9 72 Dodgy 'punk' bands???!!!
10 72 What Songs Are You Hoping For On The New TV Album?

It will be the End Of The World before we know it :wink:

  The Kid

To find out the stats for lots of lists click on this  :arrow:  http://www.tvsmith.com/forum/statistics.php

[Tj]

Another Bulletin for all your TUTS AfterGlows!

Hi Doctors people!

RICHARD STRANGE LIVE, NEW YORK, EDINBURGH FESTIVAL AND CANTERBURY FAYRE!!!!

Sorry everyone for being so slack in updates recently - have had to move house and it's been a PIG of a job getting back online. Anway...

RICHARD LIVE IN NEW YORK, July 9th at CBGB's, and 11th at Joe's pub, 425 Lafayette Street, 9.30pm. The latter will feature former ZE Records artiste Christina (Is That All There Is/Disco Clone etc) I'm told.

RICHARD AT EDINBURGH FESTIVAL, 20th/21st/22nd August, 9pm as part of the Lift Festival at the Pleasance

RICHARD AT CANTEBURY FAYRE, August 24th, at Mount Ephriam Gardens, Hernhill (Nr Cantebury), Kent. A festival which will include, amongst others, Arthur Lee's Love and the Buzzcocks! see www.canteburyfayre.com

Richard also writes: "I am currently resting form the everyenjopyabletour with PROTEIN DANCE, the company I have been working with since March. We recommence a UK tour in October, with shows in Warwick, Cambridge, Liverpool, Brighton and Darlington, culminatiung in a big show at The Queen Elizabeth Hall, London, on October 30th"

DOCTORS SONG POLL

Vote for your favourite Doctor's tracks in site regular TJ's survey. See the thread on the discussion board for more details. If none of my favourites make the top five, there'll be tantrums.

RICHARD STRANGE LIVE!! IN JAPAN!

In April, the Japanese group 'Sister Paul' got together with Richard for three gigs, performing 'Doctors of Madness' sets in Tokyo and Osako. I've since heard great things about these dates, and will have some pictures up soon!

REISSUES!

Ozit's reissues of Figments of Emancipation and Sons of Survival are now on general release and are also available by mail order. Click HERE for more details and samples of the cover artwork, also if you wanna see 'Figments' original vinyl issue sleevenotes.

GANGS OF NEW YORK

As far as I can gather, Richard's scenes in Martin Scorcese's newly-released 'Gangs of New York' have wound up on the cutting room floor. Richard played an undertaker named 'Cornelius', for which he worked at Rome's legendary Cinecitta studios. Maybe we should petition for them to be included as extras when the DVD release comes around?

RICHARD'S SITE / DOCTORS LIVE CASSETTE

For more details of Richard's activities, see www.richardstrange.com , which has all the Strangeness you could wish for, plus tempting CDs for sale! There's also a cassette only release of a live Doctors' gig on sale there, with the full four-piece line up in fine form!

RICHARD'S BOOK

Richard's autobiography, 'Strange - Punks and Drunks and Flicks and Kicks' was published in May by Andre Deutsch. A cracking read, with plenty on Richard's time with the Doctors, not to mention his diverse activities before and since. Richard has been entertaining audiences with extracts from this over the last year or so, highlights including his brushes with The Sex Pistols, Jack Nicholson and others, not to mention the infamous 'tuck in, lads' episode... again, copies can be obtained thru Richard's site, www.richardstrange.com

LIVE CD

The japanese label Captain Trip Records have released a live CD, 'Into The Strange' (see right), documenting the Doctors of Madness' final show in 1978. The sound quality is less than pristine in places, and it's maybe not the best starting point for newcomers to check the band out. But hell, I like it anyway! Criticisms apart, for the dedicated fan, and therefore the majority of you site regulars out there, this 40 minute account of the three-piece Doctors' final stand is still likely to be one for the shopping list. Sonic murkiness aside, there's some fine moments captured here - Marie and Joe, for instance, is a compellingly raw rendition, and Mitzi's Cure/I think we're alone are similarly effective. The closing track, 'Out' seems particularly poignant in its finality. Furthermore there's 2 previously unreleased numbers, 'Trouble', and a cover of the Velvets' 'What Goes On', plus a solo acoustic rerecording of 'Mainlines Prologue' serving as an intro.The CD's packaging is a treat, with a ton of photos, lyrics and sleevenotes by Richard. Altogether, it's worth the struggle with the limitations of the 1970s club-venue mixing desk for this document of the Doctors farewell. That's my verdict anyhow, feel free to discuss!

DAVID VANIAN ON THE DOCTORS

It's been there a while, but I'll plug it anyway... I've interviewed the Damned's David Vanian concerning his brief stint as a Dcotor. Look!

OTHER UPDATES

In the last few months there's been a couple of additions to Cuttings and the gallery, which now includes a couple of images forwarded to me by a mysterious man who calls himself Urban Blitz and claims to be situated in a cave outside Khandahar... judge for yourself. Anyway, it's worth checking fairly regurlarly as things do filter through to me from time to time...

As ever, the site is far from complete; I should have something more substantial for 'Meet the Doctors' fairly soon, (I know, I keep promising!) and some links are long overdue. On top of this, a Doctors chronology is also on the cards. Patience! As always, my thanks for all the feedback that's been coming in - it's nice to see such a level of interest out there. I've been sent some fantastic material for the site in the form of reminiscences, which can be viewed in cuttings/testimonials . A big thank you to Kid Sundown, Joern Lade and Mike Flanagan for this material. If anyone out there has any more, please get in touch! Oh, and if you didn't know already, the discussion board is back in business. Please note that any banner advertising is put there by the service provider, and nothing to do with me personally! (Oh, and if you're going to trade discs/memorabilia etc in there, please play fair, as I can't get involved in any disputes that might arise. Sorry to be a bore, I know you're a civilised bunch!)

RECENT BITS AND PIECES

I gather from various postings in the discussion board that Richard and TV Smith's appearances at 'Glastonwick', Southwick's Beer Music and Poetry festival on June 1st went down very well, as did Richard's 'one man show' at the Hoxton Hall, N1, which took place on June 23rd. As well as reading extracts from his book, Richard performed both acoustically and with a full band featuring David Coulter and others. Richard also appeared in the Autumn, at the Greasy Truckers Party at Hebden Bridge, Yorkshire. See flyer to the right. Is Richard a greasy trucker?? Wouldn't have thought so. Also featuring were Tractor and Spaceritual.net, featuring various ex-Hawkwind types.E

Back in October '01, Richard performed live in Stratford-Upon- Avon, backed by 2nd year students from the popular music course at Stratford Upon Avon Colleg. The show was directed by ex-Pogue, ex-Test Department multi-instrumentalist David Coulter. Much to my disgrace, I couldn't make it, but I've had a sneaky look at a tape of the show and RS was in fine form. I gather a reworking of 'Waiting' was recorded with the musicians featured at the show, not sure when this'll see the light of day...

LESS RECENTLY...

In June 2001, Richard gave a very enjoyable spoken word appearance at the Peaches Club, in Covent Garden. Previously to that, Richard performed at the Hope Festival in Sussex, which he reports went very well. Back in March, he also made a live appearance at the Barn theatre, Southwick, on a double bill with TV Smith. His performance combined acoustic numbers with some spoken passages from 'Strange'. as well as some new compositions, Richard ran through 'Waiting', 'Mitzi's Cure', 'I Think We're Alone' and 'Marie and Joe', much to the pleasure of the assembled Doctors fans.

Thanks as ever to Richard for his cooperation, also to Brian Harding, and many thanks again to everyone who's got in touch with their comments and Docs reminiscences. Keep em coming!

Come in, have a look around, and fall ever deeper...

 

INTO THE STRANGE!
 

 

More soon, in the meantime any comments, suggestions etc etc to hugh_gulland@hotmail.com