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What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« on: September 07, 2008, 02:56:26 PM »
Ok, so we all know this never happened, but suppose it had? What would it have been like?

Consider the evidence:

We know that Cast was very different from Red Sea.

We know that Tim was writing material away from The Adverts.

Cut Up / Beat up your Boyfriends and The Richard Strange co-writing are the only clues we have...

But what would have happened if Howard hadn't stopped coming?

What musical direction would the third album have taken? It's surely too simplistic, and inaccurate, to say they would have made "Last Words", so what would it have been like?

And what would it have been called?

Any thoughts?

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Re: The Adverts' Third Album
« Reply #1 on: September 07, 2008, 06:52:42 PM »
Now you are getting into my favourite TV territory. :D :D ;D

Let's see if I can find my old post about this wonderful era in TV World. :D
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #2 on: September 07, 2008, 07:12:13 PM »
Found this so far in SEARCH. :D

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We wanted to finish the second album and it was put on hold for about a year. We were putting in a few hours in the studio here and there, where we could get cheap studio time, at night or when there was a cancellation, and the whole feeling in the band was that it's not positive, we just weren't enjoying ourselves, we weren't even successful.

The plan initially was that I would then do a solo album for RCA but I slagged them off in an interview about the break-up of The Adverts, so that never happened!"

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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #3 on: September 08, 2008, 01:58:45 PM »
Yeah, but this a hypothetical question!
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #4 on: September 08, 2008, 05:36:12 PM »
Perhaps Gaye's influence would have taken them into heavy metal territory....

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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #5 on: September 08, 2008, 06:40:07 PM »
Searched for ages but couldn't find the piece I wrote about a similar subject to this.

I think I was writing more about a mixture of TV RCA solo album, Raw Meat For the Missionaries, The Explorers mythical second album, The 80's Demo's and Channel 5.

What fascinates me about TV's writing in the late 70's and 80's is how each song fell into place.

For instance it looks like Lion and The Lamb was actually a New Discoverers 80's Demo. We know that there is also a version by Cheap. We know that Borderline was originally a Cheap song (see the live video that Cheap Mik has just linked onto the site). 

With Channel 5 TV has said that he released the most recent songs he was working on. With many of the rest they could have appeared elsewhere.

So for instance the third Adverts album could have included the likes of The Servant, Perfect Live, Big Break and Some Kind Of War. For me TV would have still headed in the direction of Last Words as this followed on in growth from Cast Of Thousands, but with with a different sound as clearly The Explorers and The Adverts had very different musicians.

Of course as Fred says we will never know. :D   
       
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #6 on: September 09, 2008, 07:54:00 PM »
But a boy can dream...
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #7 on: September 10, 2008, 05:03:34 PM »
 :D
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2008, 08:17:45 AM »
Judging from the other two, I suppose it would have been...

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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2008, 12:16:04 PM »
To me The Explorer's stuff seemed like a natural musical progression from the way TV was writing on the 2nd Adverts LP.
 So, a 3rd Adverts LP would have sounded like Tomahawk Cruise era Smith...only with maybe different musicians on it. ;D

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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2008, 05:11:02 PM »
I'm sure it would have been great!
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2008, 05:43:13 PM »
Very great, but not quite as great as THE GREAT EXPLORERS.  8)
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2008, 06:34:00 PM »
...and just why not exactly??!!??
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2008, 08:53:47 PM »
Colin Stoner, Erik Russell, Tim Cross, Mel Wesson, John Towe and David Sinclair.

To name but six reasons. ;)

The quality of TV's songwriting and arrangements was improving all the time.
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Re: What would The Adverts' Third Album have been like?
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2009, 12:28:36 PM »
Hmm I've been wondering about the second Explorers album this weekend.

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Searched for ages but couldn't find the piece I wrote about a similar subject to this.

I think I was writing more about a mixture of TV RCA solo album, Raw Meat For the Missionaries, The Explorers mythical second album, The 80's Demo's and Channel 5.

What fascinates me about TV's writing in the late 70's and 80's is how each song fell into place.

For instance it looks like Lion and The Lamb was actually a New Discoverers 80's Demo. We know that there is also a version by Cheap. We know that Borderline was originally a Cheap song (see the live video that Cheap Mik has just linked onto the site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svSY2nrU1dw ). 

With Channel 5 TV has said that he released the most recent songs he was working on. With many of the rest they could have appeared elsewhere.

So for instance the third Adverts album could have included the likes of The Servant, Perfect Live, Big Break and Some Kind Of War. For me TV would have still headed in the direction of Last Words as this followed on in growth from Cast Of Thousands, but with with a different sound as clearly The Explorers and The Adverts had very different musicians.

Of course as Fred says we will never know

Tj 08.09.08
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