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« Reply #15 on: September 17, 2002, 09:43:11 PM »

Quote from: "Mrs Fleagle"
essentialy most of the people in the world are good, and make the best of their lot. Yet it only takes a minority of bad people to make life miserable  for the majority :!:


I am afraid, you are absolutely right, Mrs. Fleagle!
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« Reply #16 on: September 18, 2002, 09:52:31 AM »

Yeah, Mrs Fleagle is right, unfortunately it is like this...

Jock, I can understand you consider voting a waste of time, but the trouble is that many politicians think that the non-voters are happy with politics!! Honest, some even said that the non-voters were obviously seeing no problems politics should solve and that's why they didn't vote!!!
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So maybe Class' solution to write something on it like "Anarchy" and thus making it invalid is the better idea. Only if there's lots invalid votes some politicians might notice that not many are happy about what they're doing.
So why not go voting and write "TV Smith for Prime Minister" on it?
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« Reply #17 on: September 18, 2002, 11:06:33 AM »

Hi Uli
I probably will write T V Smith on the voting slip next time  ....its
better that than ANY politicians .
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« Reply #18 on: September 18, 2002, 01:22:04 PM »

Good idea, Jock, you're probably right...
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« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2003, 12:11:07 AM »

http://www.indybay.org/news/2002/12/1555839.php
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« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2003, 12:48:50 AM »

Very interesting article, must admit I havne't read one pro Bush article  Cool


I found  this one quite interesting www.accuracy.org/bush/


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« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2003, 11:15:11 AM »

Thanks Mrs F.
Anyone able to recommend any other good pieces?
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2003, 08:45:48 PM »

Funnily enough even the Daily Telegraph seems less than enthusiastic given this revealing piece:

America is still fighting against an evil empire
By Adam Nicolson
(Filed: 14/01/2003)


I spent most of the warm March evening in 1986 when Ronald Reagan started bombing the Libyans in the Gulf of Sirte (the first act, as we can now realise, of this long American war on terrorism) talking to - and, to be honest, gazing at - Miss Teen Texas 1985.

I can't, sadly, remember the rest of her name, but I do remember those few hours as one of the most revelatory of my life. Don't ask how I came to be there, but Miss Teen and I (was it Genevieve? or Penelope? Penny? Pony? Madeleine? Dolores? Patsy, maybe . . . the mists of time) had both been invited to a party at the Playboy Mansion West, Hugh Hefner's lovely Tudor-Breton-GothicCotswold-Pugin-Art Deco Jacuzzi-zoo-grotto-manoir and five-acre estate in the Holmby Hills just outside Hollywood.

The dress instructions had been "chic casual" and so I put on a new pair of socks and came in blue shirt and blue trousers. No one else did. The girls, including Genevieve, wore nearly nothing.

I remember that night as the apotheosis of the revealed American bosom, an endless, dreamlike display of New World fantasy, no airbrushing needed, no digital enhancement required, only an endlessly smiling parade of these marvellous and slightly distant figures culled and gathered from the housing projects and farmlands of a continent.

None of them, I think, can have been over 25 and none of the other men there, Hollywood powerbrokers, wet cigars in sucking lips, big loose shirts over big loose bodies, was under 60.

Hef himself wafted through in his purple pyjamas - he'd had a stroke the year before and was said to be feeling a little "piano" - and told me as he passed how "vurry pleased" he was that I was there, which was nice. It was a momentary snapshot of the American dream, and of course I drank it in.

Naturally, Miss Teen and I discussed geopolitics on a sofa (we did drift past some other things: she told me that Hef wanted her to take her clothes off for the magazine; she didn't think she would; not for that money anyway. Of course not, I said. What an idea. $40,000? Laughable).

She described to me how Libyans had been responsible the previous April for blowing up a Berlin disco in which American soldiers had been killed. Letting loose the navy jets was simply retaliation, self-defence, looking after our own. Of course it was, I said. I would have done it myself.

There wasn't a person in the room, dressed or undressed, who didn't think it a fine thing that was happening over there. Patsy was right there with her boys. That's right, I said. The military campaign ran on, sporadically, through that spring as I drove my Pontiac Catalina convertible, bench seats 7ft wide, eight miles per gallon, up through the great cowboy states of the Rockies.

To my own amazement, and through the fug of a love affair with the American West, I came to think for those few months that knocking hell out of some Libyans was a fine thing, too. Perhaps it was just the afterglow of that evening with incomparable Miss Teen. She had been so interesting about everything that, as you can imagine, to continue the conversation, I had offered to accompany her home.

As we were waiting for one of the bellhops to bring my car to the front door, one of the Hollywood Big Men drew me aside. "Are you going home with that girl?" "I was thinking of giving her a lift." "Well, let me tell you one thing, son: it is much, much better in life to act the shepherd than the ram." Shepherding it was, but perhaps through sheer proximity, I became somehow Americanised that evening.

It was a kind of madness. One had only to look around the wonders of Playboy Mansion West, or the lovely ranches in Montana, or the delicious restaurants in San Francisco, to see what heaven on earth the Americans had made for themselves and were offering the world. Of course they had the right to defend themselves from the unpredictable, vicious and unprincipled people who wanted to destroy the goodness they had enshrined.

America envelops both Americans and the sort of temporary, passing American that I had become in a warm and self-confirming blanket of its own vision of the world. That vision is shaped by some powerful myths and, as Niall Ferguson has written in his fascinating new history of the British empire, there is one idea that lies at the root of them all: "The struggle for liberty against an evil empire," Ferguson has written, "is America's creation myth."

George III's Britain, 1940s Japan, the Soviet bloc and George W Bush's "axis of evil" have all played the same role: the big and threatening force against which America defines itself, not as a global power, but as the land of the free and the home of the brave, whose only concern is to prevent others eroding those liberties. Since long before September 11, it has seen itself, in other words, as essentially on the defensive.

This frame of mind is different from the mentality that has created other global empires. Roman, Spanish, Dutch, French and British empires were all driven by the instinct to acquire and to rule.

But the Americans do not now and have rarely in the past wanted to acquire an empire. They think of themselves as the people who fight against empires. All they want is a free market and freedom from threat, not endless expensive colonies to administer.

Ironically, of course, that attitude, combined with financial strength of an unprecedented kind and an annual $300 billion defence budget, gets you an empire by default. And that is the situation we now have: a world superpower with no real desire to rule the world, but only an enormous and unstoppable capacity to erase those by whom it chooses to feel threatened. Miss Teen, wherever you are, can we talk again?
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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2003, 09:05:00 PM »

Frodo has failed  :!:  8O

http://www.wasteofmind.de/pics/Frodo_has_failed.jpg

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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2003, 04:50:29 PM »

wheres professor Liebstrom ?? he ahs to be around somewhere !! :wink:
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« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2003, 08:43:21 PM »

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That picture is great  :lol:

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« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2003, 08:55:28 PM »

I have added a couple of interesting links to my 'New Website' that link to some informative websites  Smiley

Sorry I had to mention it, was a labour of love www.area76.co.uk  :oops:

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« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2003, 10:23:45 PM »

Finally, a topless picture of Mrs. Fleagle. Cheesy  8O
No, I am not visiting the same websites as Mr. Townshend. :wink:

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« Reply #28 on: January 16, 2003, 06:53:18 PM »

Wow had this site got variety Bush War, Lord Of The Ring and a topless Mrs Fleagle :oops:

Must admit I'm in denial over this 'next' fucking war. Someone at work who is ex RAF has just been called up. The whole thing stinks! :evil:

Fasinating article Teev.

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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2003, 12:45:44 PM »

Bang on comments here folks  :evil:

Of course until mankind devises a way to have leaders that are drawn to the job for the good of us all then we will forever be in a downward cycle.

Politicians do not want to get elected to help us all but because they crave power over us and the desire to force the population to their will.
No other reason than that..........

A better & more honest title for "President" or "Prime Minister" would be "Overlord" or "Tyrant". At least Stalin didnt hide behind any pretence of what he was,like our so called leaders  :!:

War is coming wether we like it or not !

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