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« Reply #75 on: August 28, 2017, 06:08:46 PM »
Their Satanic Majesties Request turns 50:

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/music/features/rolling-stones-their-satanic-majesties-request-anniversary-reissue-video-2000-light-years-from-home-a7917031.html

Whatever happened to The Damned's plan to cover the whole album I remember reading about back in the day? As far as I know, only their excellent version of "Citadel" ever made it out of the rehearsal/recording studio - until Uli tells me different...

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« Reply #76 on: August 29, 2017, 07:56:23 AM »
Whatever happened to The Damned's plan to cover the whole album I remember reading about back in the day? As far as I know, only their excellent version of "Citadel" ever made it out of the rehearsal/recording studio - until Uli tells me different...

Uli says "nothing came out of it" (except for the aforementioned "Citadel").
Naz Nomad & the Nightmares played "2000 lightyears from home" live in the 80s (not that they have anything to do with the D*mned).
Captain wanted to "resurrect" the idea with "The Dr Spacetoad Experience" in the 90s, but again, nothing came out of it...
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« Reply #77 on: August 29, 2017, 02:33:52 PM »
Thanks for that Uli - I knew that you would know. Interesting that the Naz side-project kept the idea going as I'd always assumed that The Captain (with his psychedelic leanings) was the driving force behind the concept.

It's a shame the project wasn't completed - I'd have loved to have heard The Captain squeaking out Bill Wyman's "In Another Land"!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8KzA6es3Bo
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« Reply #78 on: August 30, 2017, 09:53:17 AM »
Apparently it was Captain's idea, to me it always seemed like a "strange" one (while I like "Citadel", covering a whole album seems daft).
Naz Nomad soon dropped this cover, didn't work very well apparently. (Of course, they were covering mainly "psychedelic & garage rock" stuff, so this fit in, with Vanian & Jugg also being "fans" of that era.)
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« Reply #79 on: September 07, 2017, 10:08:39 AM »
And the Captain does STILL like it, even to the point of defending it on the net...

https://www.facebook.com/sensiblecaptain/posts/10156598675963102
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Despite messers Richards and Jagger's regret for their foray into psychedelia debate about the various merits of 'Satanic Majesties' goes on. I agree totally with the attached blog, David Fricke is so wrong.. and without the material Brian Jones contributed to (but scandalously didn't receive a writers credit for) they would be playing the same gig circuit as the rest of us: http://psychobabble200.blogspot.de/2017/08/review-fiftieth-anniversary-edition-of.html

I've got the 50th anniversary reissue.. not the vinyl though - and if I CAN'T find some way to blag a copy I might even have to purchase.. but the thought of giving a penny to that miserly old tory Mick Jagger sticks in the throat.
But enough of that... here's my defence of the record - from the comments section following yet another critique of the album that you either love or hate - Their Satanic Majesties Request:
https://electriccomicbook.wordpress.com/2011/03/11/another-spin-the-rolling-stones-their-satanic-majesties-request/

Whether they like it or not the Rolling Stones created an exquisite psychedelic masterpiece that works on nearly every level – and yes, that includes the lyrics. Everyone went a bit ‘cosmic’ in the summer of love…. including the pupils at my school in Croydon – which didn’t go terribly down well with the headmaster I can tell you. But that’s another story.
As you constantly compare Satanic Majesties with the Beatles own 1967 effort I hope you’ll be giving Pepper’s lyrical content the same critical once over. John’s Getting Better strikes me as a contender (with Elvis’s ‘Always On My Mind’) for rock’s greatest wife beaters anthem. And isn’t there some equally hippy dippy drivel on side 2 of the fab four’s platter.
But going back to TSMR – is side one as weak as you say? Do you ‘dig’ wig out jamming? I do, and I’d say this is up there with the likes of Can, Steamhammer, Syd’s Floyd and Neu. And despite the internal conflicts in the band (and Mick and Keef’s attempts to sideline him at the time) Brian Jones gets one last chance to showcase his genius – and on a multitude of instruments too. The melotron on ‘2000 Light Years From Home’ is probably worth the price of the album alone.
And was Brian really that pissed off with the direction of this record as you say? By his stupendous efforts this sounds more like HIS album than that of the Glimmer Twats if you ask me. Every note he plays is gold dust, regardless of the blokes legendary personality flaws.
Satanic Majesties ‘comes in colours’ alright – and compares most favourably to most of the one dimensional, lazy rawk that this band would continue their career with.
I’m actually NOT much of a Stones fan either…. some of the unmitigated garbage that this bunch of bored rock stars have churned out in the last few decades would have killed most bands – if it wasn’t for the fact that the 60s virtually belonged to them.
But I LOVE Their Satanic Majesties Request. It is an album that rewards frequent playing…. as evidenced by the fact that I’ve worn out several vinyl copies since my schooldays.
Anyway music is like that, we can’t all agree on everything can we….. personally I can’t stand Mozart – much preferring Bach and Rachmaninov, blah blah, etc.
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« Reply #80 on: September 07, 2017, 10:49:46 AM »
Thanks for that Uli - interesting stuff.
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« Reply #81 on: September 13, 2017, 08:28:35 AM »
Stones played Munich yesterday - I wasn't there. Looking at the setlist, they did play 2 songs from the latest album (but all in all, I didn't wanna pay like 100+ euro for this show... apparently you could've also spent 680 euro...)

https://www.rollingstone.de/rolling-stones-in-muenchen-setlist-fotos-und-videos-vom-spektakel-1344709/
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« Reply #82 on: February 26, 2018, 09:22:25 AM »
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NO STOPPING! “We haven’t finished yet. It’s still too early for me to talk about the Stones’ legacy. There’s one thing that we haven’t yet achieved, and that’s to really find out how long you can do this. It’s still such a joy to play with this band that you can’t really let go of it.” Keith Richards

The Rolling Stones will come to Stuttgart (again, last visit was in 2006)! I am tempted, will wait and see how expensive the tickets will be...
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« Reply #87 on: May 29, 2018, 08:39:20 AM »
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/lists/rolling-stones-producer-jimmy-miller-things-you-didnt-know-w519901
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We remember the man who added cowbell to "Honky Tonk Women" and manned the boards for the band's classic late Sixties and early Seventies LPs

The collaboration would be one of rock's most fruitful, with Miller producing the next five Stones albums: Beggars Banquet, Let It Bleed, Sticky Fingers, Exile on Main Street, and Goats Head Soup.
"Jimmy Miller was one of the most simpatico producers that I've ever worked with," Keith Richards said in According to the Rolling Stones. "He could handle a band – especially this band – and gave everybody the same level of support. ... He had a very good rapport with Mick."

"Jimmy actually made me stop and think again about the way I play drums in the studio," Watts recounted in According to the Rolling Stones, "and I became a much better drummer in the studio thanks to him – together we made some of the best records we've ever made…"

I may add a #16: Miller produced (Brian James' band) The Dripping Lips' album "Ready to crack?" (released in 1998, recorded a few years earlier).  8)
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« Reply #88 on: May 29, 2018, 12:34:54 PM »
I may add a #16: Miller produced (Brian James' band) The Dripping Lips' album "Ready to crack?" (released in 1998, recorded a few years earlier).  8)

I believe most of it was recorded shortly after the Original Soundtrack for 'Abracadabra' which the band recorded in 1992 and was released in 1993. As Miller died in 1994 that would seem to make Brian James statement that it was the last thing Miller ever worked on sound believable. Some of the tracks from the 'Abracadabra' soundtrack were included on 'Ready To Crack' but, as Alan Lee Shaw was on bass for the OST but Nico Mansy is credited on 'Ready To Crack', I don't think they were recorded at the same sessions. Incidentally Jimmy Miller is credited with backing vocals on 'Ready To Crack' as well. 

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« Reply #89 on: May 29, 2018, 04:04:50 PM »
I believe most of it was recorded shortly after the Original Soundtrack for 'Abracadabra' which the band recorded in 1992 and was released in 1993. As Miller died in 1994 that would seem to make Brian James statement that it was the last thing Miller ever worked on sound believable.

Absolutely. Thanks for your input, you're always well informed.  8)
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