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Serious shit in France
« on: November 14, 2015, 01:44:40 AM »
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2015, 09:30:40 AM »
Bad news indeed. I was really tired last night, so I didn't watch the footie. Apparently the people had to stay in the stadium for a good while after the match...

With the current refugee "crisis" things like this tragic attack will sadly strengthen the right wing.  :(
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Re: Serious shit in France
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2015, 01:52:36 PM »
http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35035025

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/watch-u2-welcome-eagles-of-death-metal-onstage-in-paris-20151207
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Less than a month after terrorists attacked their concert in Paris, Eagles of Death Metal got back onstage in the French capital at U2's show. "They were robbed of their stage three weeks ago, so we'd like to offer them ours tonight," Bono told the crowd, according to U2Start. The band played a cover of Patti Smith's "People Have the Power," U2's signature intro music, side-by-side with the headliners, before the Irish rockers left the stage so Eagles of Death Metal could play their own "I Love You All the Time."
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2015, 08:16:21 PM »
Have to feel for those guys- first they're attacked by terrorists, then they have to listen to U2. The publicity won't have doe hem any harm though, 3 weeks ago no one had heard of them.

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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2015, 02:40:55 PM »
Well actually years ago Jock (one of our members here) sang their praises... thus I knew they do exist.  8)
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2015, 12:22:56 PM »
I've been to see them 3 times. No nonsense fun
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Re: Serious shit in France
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2016, 04:41:28 PM »
Chris Eckman posted this on his Facebook:
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Istanbul, Bamako and Brussels. And that is just the last four days. What a world we have built. We collectively ask "when will it stop?" But there is no easy answer to that question and there are certainly no quick, painless courses of action to be pursued. "Surgical strikes" that murder civilians, demonising refugees and categorical travel bans are not going to stop this. We must also look past the belief that this is all overwhelmingly about religion. That is an easy reduction that keeps us distanced from answers. Many of the young men and women involved are not radical believers. But they are without doubt filled with unrepentant anger and hopelessness. The world has become grotesquely unequal and violence is their payback. You can contend that is not your problem or responsibility, but conversely, they have pledged to do everything they can to make it your problem. To find a way out of this death spiral we are going to have to dig into the roots of all this. We are going to have to recognise the ways in which we are, at least in part, also responsible for our own destruction. The Turkish writer Orhan Pamuk offers some lucid words below. They are obviously not meant to justify or exonerate extremist death cults, and their meaning is of course best appreciated in the context and subtleties of the full essay (written 15 years ago, a month after 9/11). I imagine if you have travelled extensively in the non-western, Muslim world, as I have, you will quickly recognise at least some of what Pamuk alludes to:

"Decisions to engage in war taken impulsively, and without due consideration, will intensify the hostility toward the West felt by millions of people in the Islamic countries and poverty-stricken regions of the world—people living in conditions that give rise to feelings of humiliation and inferiority. It is neither Islam nor even poverty itself that directly engenders support for terrorists whose ferocity and ingenuity are unprecedented in human history; it is, rather, the crushing humiliation that has infected the third-world countries…the Western world is scarcely aware of this overwhelming feeling of humiliation that is experienced by most of the world’s population; it is a feeling that people have to try to overcome without losing their common sense, and without being seduced by terrorists, extreme nationalists, or fundamentalists. This is the grim, troubled private sphere that neither magical realistic novels that endow poverty and foolishness with charm nor the exoticism of popular travel literature manages to fathom. And it is while living within this private sphere that most people in the world today are afflicted by spiritual misery. The problem facing the West is not only to discover which terrorist is preparing a bomb in which tent, which cave, or which street of which city, but also to understand the poor and scorned and “wrongful” majority that does not belong to the Western world."
http://www.nybooks.com/articles/2001/11/15/the-anger-of-the-damned/
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2016, 11:40:43 PM »
And again sadly - at least 60 dead at the moment:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36800730

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2016, 07:50:05 AM »
84 now.  :(
Serious shit indeed.  >:(
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #13 on: July 23, 2016, 10:34:18 AM »
Sadly it has been Bavaria's "turn" over the last week. The hate-filled misguided must not win.

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2016, 10:35:55 PM »
Back to France again today. How far can the French be pushed before they snap back and what form will it take? I'm very worried that the French will play into their hands with their response, but what should they do?