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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #15 on: July 27, 2016, 08:14:38 AM »
Hm, France is already in the coalition against IS (Daesh)?  :-\

Europe's right-wing politicians are blaming Merkel...
http://www.t-online.de/nachrichten/ausland/eu/id_78520584/wilders-co-attackieren-angela-merkel-wegen-fluechtlingspolitik.html
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #16 on: July 27, 2016, 10:20:28 PM »
But pressure is building to step up their response...

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #17 on: July 28, 2016, 09:51:45 AM »
But pressure is building to step up their response...

Yep, possibly more violence creating more violence...  :(
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #18 on: July 28, 2016, 09:59:34 AM »
I don't think the French leader's description of this being a "war" helps...

Sad thing is that IS, through a minority of cruel zealots, create death and disruption which leads to tougher checks and suspicions of Muslims in general, leading to resentment leading to more IS recruits. A difficult cycle to break if people want to 'feel' safe. 

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #19 on: July 28, 2016, 11:53:51 AM »
I don't think the French leader's description of this being a "war" helps...

Nor does The Pope's statement that the world 'is at war'.
It suggests definable Nation States as enemies rather than a minority of terrorists.
For example; we are not 'at war' with Syria but fighting elements within it.

You cannot win a 'war on terror' when war itself is terror.
I believe dealing with terrorists should be referred to more often as an international Police matter.
These are criminals not soldiers.

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #20 on: July 28, 2016, 12:01:23 PM »
These are criminals not soldiers.

I agree.
Apparently the guy who went mad in Munich was a (wannabe-)"Nazi". Strange to think that many comments after his deeds were in direction of "anti-refugees" etc.  ::)
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2016, 10:32:00 AM »
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #22 on: March 22, 2017, 07:08:28 PM »
Sadly London's turn again. Four dead and at least 20 seriously injured to date:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39355940


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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2017, 07:31:07 PM »
Sadly London's turn again. Four dead and at least 20 seriously injured to date:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-39355940

Yup. Xa's 200 yards away on lockdown. She's safe.
However, she'll be having an emergency meeting at 7pm and won't get home 'til gone 11pm.
She also knows one of the bridge victims. He's 'walking wounded' and not too badly hurt.

But I wish the 'news' would stop referring to a 'terrorist attack' until we have confirmation it isn't a lone nut job with a grudge. Let's at least have the facts first.

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #24 on: March 22, 2017, 08:28:32 PM »
I'm very sorry to hear that Ken - love to Xa and I hope she's safely home before too much longer.

Nutter or terrorist, he drove into a bunch of French schoolgirls - what a brave man!

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2017, 12:43:48 AM »
24hrs later and he would've run into Mrs. Slaughterboy  :(

Her brother is in St Thomas' Hospital at the moment and visiting time commences at 2pm, so she would've been walking from Westminster Station across the bridge at about the same time as today's tragedy.

Serious shit indeed.

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2017, 01:16:02 PM »
Hope Za gets home ok, Ken.

11.45pm. And back in to work for another meeting at 8am.
She'll probably have enough 'time in lieu' to take Friday off.

I'm off to London in a couple of hours for a book signing (Kim Newman 'Anno Dracula') and meeting friends for beers. Not sure how 'jolly' everyone's going to feel.

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #27 on: March 23, 2017, 07:28:08 PM »
24hrs later and he would've run into Mrs. Slaughterboy  :(

Her brother is in St Thomas' Hospital at the moment and visiting time commences at 2pm, so she would've been walking from Westminster Station across the bridge at about the same time as today's tragedy.

Helen's brother said he didn't know that something was happening, even though his hospital room faces Parliament, until he heard helicopters overhead.

Something he saw that I was certainly unaware of: he said he saw a big, jet black boat pull up next to Westminster Bridge and dozens of armed police charged off of it towards the Parliament buildings. Using the Thames is probably the quickest way to move an armed response to the heart of London, I guess. Never thought of it before, but I'd daresay that the emergency forces have had that one up their sleeves for some time.

The chaos a lone person with a grudge can cause... :(
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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2017, 01:59:48 PM »
Using the Thames is probably the quickest way to move an armed response to the heart of London, I guess. Never thought of it before, but I'd daresay that the emergency forces have had that one up their sleeves for some time.

There was a demonstration of the new river based anti-terrorism Police response on the BBC News only last Sunday. It was set up in case terrorists come up the Thames on a hijacked boat.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYgFmj0zYO4

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Re: Serious shit in France
« Reply #29 on: April 07, 2017, 04:28:49 PM »
Sadly, it looks like Stockholm is now suffering:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39531108