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TV Chat / Re: Compilation punk album in support of closed music venues
« on: January 07, 2021, 12:03:51 AM »
Well after a "comedy of errors" with this release, I finally received my copy a couple of weeks before Xmas - after my original order somehow got lost and wasn't sent out when it should have been.
Bit disappointing that there's no information about where any of the tracks have come from.
TV's contribution is an acoustic studio version of "Replay" so as it was originally billed as being from his "forthcoming new album", I assume that Acoustic Sessions Volume 2 is out there and we would have got a release if not for "Lockdown Holiday". Later this year maybe?
The Freak Show compilation has now sold out (vinyl) although there was talk of a CD release (wouldn't hold my breath on that one).

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2020
« on: January 06, 2021, 11:39:27 PM »

and the 3rd is of Cheap - John Peel Sessions from 25/01/88.  This is the whole JP show and gives some more "missing gigs" for the records.

Also on YT the is also a JP Session from 05/01/88, but this is only the 4 songs played in the show mentioned above.  I think that the poster has the wrong date 05/01 instead of 25/01.  I am going for the latter as it is the complete show.

Re the Cheap Peel Session, 5/01/88 is the date that the recording was made and the later 25/01/88 is the broadcast date.

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2021
« on: January 01, 2021, 12:05:15 AM »
Riva Punk Show in Preston originally for the 5th of December this year and then postponed until until 6th February 2021 has been postponed again and the organisers are looking into dates to re-arrange it. I'm not sure which tier Northwich is in but this cancellation probably puts the Salty Dog gig the day after in the unlikely category. It's a long trip for TV to make for one gig of 30 people!
All the best to TV, Sally & everyone on the Forum for the New Year.

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2020
« on: November 27, 2020, 02:42:08 PM »
Same here!!

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2020
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:08:19 PM »
Well, we've got the beer & the company, just waiting on the great songs!

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2020
« on: November 26, 2020, 08:02:25 PM »
Gonna go to the bar whilst I'm waiting for the gig to start. Can I get you one?

TV Live / Re: TV Gigs 2020
« on: November 26, 2020, 07:58:37 PM »
Anyone had the link yet?

Still waiting for mine Fred!

TV Live / Re: Setlists
« on: November 19, 2020, 11:02:48 PM »
Ever get the feeling that you wished you'd never started something!
I've had a look on and the set list for the (new, new) Nottingham University gig is the same as the setlist already on the gig list so this looks as though it's the same one. Both the Adverts & The Damned played at the Porterhouse in Nottinghamshire on the 13th of May - this one did happen as there was a review of the gig in Sounds the week after. There's no listing for The Damned on for the 12th May so would The Adverts have played there on their own? Alternatively, there was a Nottingham Punk Festival in May '77 but the only thing that I can find out about this is that ATV played their first gig there. Was this at Nottingham University? If so, wouldn't The Damned have played as they were in the area?
Richard added...

''Anyway, all this means that unfortunately I have nothing to definitely confirm Damned and Adverts dates for Nottingham. One thing that could give a hint - I think the Nottingham Damned one was recorded for Nottingham radio broadcast. Could be that The Adverts were also recorded. Maybe an angle to approach from... ''
I'd have to check the Nottingham University recordings to try to see if they sound like radio broadcasts though mine are probably so many generations away that it'll be hard to tell. To make matters even worse, there's was an Adverts recording a couple of years back that was supposedly Nottingham September 1977!
I don't think that we'll ever get to the bottom of this unless we send Fred out to interview half of Nottingham!
Rockula and I have given you as much info as possible so it's over to you Phil for the casting vote on this one!

« on: November 19, 2020, 08:20:25 PM »
A good review, but I'd have to disagree on a few points.
I was lucky enough to hear all the new songs live and to be honest, although we can all empathise with the sentiments expressed, it's a very personal set of songs and I think adding a full band would take away from the intimacy of the subject matter. As well as the fact that it's topical and the quickest way to get the songs out is the way that it's been done.
Secondly, although the "slower acoustic mode" works really well for 'I Surf The Second Wave' (probably my favourite song), TV (as I guess we all are) is angry with the way that the pandemic has been handled and quite rightly so hence the "full on punk rock strumming".
Finally, I don't think TV would take too kindly to being compared with Julius Caesar! If a had to go with a Roman analogy I'd probably use Cicero.

TV Songs / Re: Stiff "One Chord Wonders" session.
« on: November 19, 2020, 07:28:27 PM »
Maybe Tim was referring to the Basement Tapes recordings and not specifically tracks recorded for Stiff?

That did cross my mind but as the interview was on the same night as the High Wycombe gig review (1st April) and the Stiff sessions were done in March just before the gig, why would TV mention that they'd done a few more tracks if he was talking about the earlier (December? '76) recordings? Also he said that they hadn't yet chosen the B-side, if only Quickstep had been recorded at the time, there wouldn't have been a choice.
Unless it was to get us talking about it 40 odd years later!
After all, he is the "Nostradamus of Punk"!

TV Live / Re: Setlists
« on: November 19, 2020, 07:17:10 PM »
I could message him on Facebook if you have a specific question.

If you would, that would be great!
I'm assuming that The Adverts gig at Nottingham University was part of the tour with The Damned so if he could confirm The Damned date (and even better if he knows that The Adverts were on as well) then that would give us the right date for the gig list.

TV Live / Re: Setlists
« on: November 19, 2020, 04:35:56 PM »
I think that "lemonade" might be a bit flat by the time Boris says that we can play out again.
Looking back, the original date for Nottingham does seem a bit early for an "out of town" gig where as High Wycombe is a bit closer to London. I'm not too sure that the 1st is the correct date though. I've got a recording of the Damned at Nottingham U. and that's dated the 24th of May (although my recording of The Adverts is just dated June) which would fill a different gap in the gig list! Nottingham isn't on the original list for the tour with The Damned but there were that many that were cancelled/added that this date could be right. I've tried to check on The Damned White Rabbit site but for some reason, can't get into 1977! Any Damned fans on the forum with a definitive answer?

TV Songs / Stiff "One Chord Wonders" session.
« on: November 18, 2020, 02:59:39 PM »
I was always under the impression that only 'One Chord Wonders' & 'Quickstep' were recorded for Stiff but reading an old interview with TV (The New Wave Magazine) from just before the single release, he's asked about the B-side of the single and says:

"Well we've done a few more tracks. We haven't quite decided what it's gonna be. Might be 'New Boys' actually. That's the most likely one for the B-side."

 So it seems that at least this was was recorded at the same time? Wonder what happened to that version?

TV Live / Re: Setlists
« on: November 18, 2020, 02:47:19 PM »
Whilst on furlough, I've been going through some old punk stuff and found a review for The Adverts in an early punk fanzine. It contradicts the Archives as it's the same date (01/04/77) as Nottingham University. The date for this venue, seems to be right - Nags Head High Wycombe:
The punk gigs here appear to have been put on by Ron Watts (100 Club).
This was also probably The Adverts' first gig outside London although the link above does raise the possibility that they supported Wayne County at an earlier date here.
"The set-list includes: ‘One Chord Wonders’, ‘New Boys’, ‘Quick Step’, ‘On the Roof’, ‘New Day Dawning’, ‘We Who Wait’, ‘Bored Teenagers’, ‘Gary Gilmore’s Eyes’, ‘Bombsite Boy’ and ‘Great British Mistake’." This is taken from the fanzine review.
So I guess the Nottingham University gig date is wrong - possibly confused with the later appearance in June?
There's also an interview with TV in the fanzine that says that the above gig was their 12th or 15th show which does fit this timeline. He also mentioned the "One Chord Wonders" single which hadn't been then been released but I'll stick this info on TV Songs.

TV Chat / Re: Rock Off Fibro
« on: October 07, 2020, 10:40:31 PM »
DVD arrived today and the TV track isn't an acoustic one. It's actually with The Bored Teenagers at The Brudenell Leeds from last year. I do remember that someone was filming the gig so I guess that's where this is from. Wonder what happened to the full show? I think I recognise the back of my head!!

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